Let's look at this wagon here. Notice the quick rise of Atsumori as a prominent counterwagon. Cleared.
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This could only be a vote from an anti-Town faction.
There's a reason why the scum team hasn't attempted to kill you yet.
@Stick Notice how in these reads, Lethal has me as Town.
@Luka Lethal is the way to go. I need your vote in order to push this. Otherwise, they'll lynch you (Luka) tomorrow.
Right now, the split is 10 vs. 2 + 1 SK.
Scum team mislynches me.
9 vs. 3.
Two kills.
D5.
7 vs. 3
Mislynch.
6 vs. 3.
Two kills.
D6.
4 vs. 3.
Mislynch.
It's over.
Scum team mislynches me.
9 vs. 3.
Two kills.
D5.
7 vs. 3
Mislynch.
6 vs. 3.
Two kills.
D6.
4 vs. 3.
Mislynch.
It's over.
hime and Lethal's push to lynch me is undoubtedly weak and unreasonable.
Those who compose the anti-Town factions are clear.
Lethal
hime
Aurelian
Lethal
hime
Aurelian
Look at this here (post against Lethal).I don't trust Lethal at all so I did my own ISO of Hayumi's posts to look for spew or anti-spew
'I have the opposite thought tbh, I think it’s uncommon for scum to claim so early but definitely NAI overall'
'Can you elaborate? You don’t buy their explanation that they thought Villager just = Town?' - defends Stick in response to my early sus and vote
'Way too early town leans so far Gad Stick Lethal' - could Hayumi have put a mafia in here to try and make them look better?
'Hmm ok gotcha, not sure what about me catching up pings you but I’m just poking questions at things that stick out to me. I personally like to try to find town reads first and then start my solve from there rather then give a whole list a few hours into d1 but we still have at least 5 or more players that haven’t even posted yet so let’s give it some time.' - random ping on Jay23
'Lethal: aggressive, quick to fluctuate and push in other directions. Think so far he’s got the same vibe as our last townie game together.' - This kind of fake meta analysis on Lethal actually makes me more even sus on Lethal now
'Lmaooo you haven’t given me a reason to have animosity yet' - on Jay. These interactions seem a bit odd, as much as I hate to admit it, Lethal may have a point there
'Yah it’s true the claim in itself is still NAI, I just got more so of a gut feel in the way they came across but I’ve been wrong before on scum for similar reasons not that long ago lololol so let me take a step back. I do think the other reasons are still valid, like how they responded to getting sussed almost in a joking way and then later came back to clarify if the sus was a joke or not. Just reads kind of townie to me I don’t know how to really put words to it.' - I'm still not sure who this is in reference to? With the whole 'trap' thing?
'What are your thoughts on BradLand and Miraka so far?
Miraka had a mixed bag of posts for me. Some of them looked townie, some looked kind of suspect.'
'this reaction to getting some early pressure isn’t great imo. I feel like I would react kind of similarly as scum getting caught out, but also could just be AtE as town.
BradLand seems to have some sort of meta knowledge on Miraka implying they could have shown a scum tell but hasn’t really pushed there himself so makes me wonder'
Yeah I'm including Hayumi's reactions to me too cause I'm not afraid of the heat unlike Lethal
I want it to be known that I pushed on Hayumi plenty yesterday
I pointed out the stuff they did that was scummy and why
None of their arguments against me made any sense
The buddying they did with Aurelian when Aurelian made up BS reasons (and is still doing that now, btw) was disgusting
That means Lethal's clearly putting stuff out of their a** in the read on me because I kept putting pressure on Hayumi and saying they were at least a scum lean for me. And I didn't back down on that
The reason I voted Aurelian on Day 1 is because they were a bigger FoS for me and I stand by that being a good call with the information we had at the time. Plus I didn't realize it was a majority lynch not plurality at the time so I had hope that Alexis and some others might see the light after my last post and see what I'm seeing with Aurelian
And for RDK, we all know how scummy Cataclysm was and RDK was even worse
So I'm not apologizing for that at all
'Everyone say hello to Alexis, this game just got much less boring' - likely NAI for Alexis
'What would you say if I said I could see a world where you and Brad actually have scum equity. He was sort of fence sitting by suggesting he has scum tell knowledge on you but not doing anything with it. And now you return the favor by sussing him but aren’t interested in really applying' - another example of BS that Hayumi spewed about me that I called them out on
'Oh so you were serious about Nibel, noted lol' - rather shallow response to Aurelian's unexplained FoS on Atsumori and me. That's a bit of a negative for Aurelian
'Are either of you familiar with what scum Alexis even plays likes? so far my last 4 games with him he’s been playing very similarly and town every time.' - shares meta on Alexis. I'm paying less attention to these cause Alexis is my strongest townread so far and the current votes on them are complete BS
'I was looking at an angle that Miraka and Brad could both be scum bc neither have really pushed one another too much despite both of them putting each other as sus but Stick kind of convinced me otherwise that they wouldn’t approach each other that way if both scum' - some grade A bullshit and I wasn't the only one to call them out on this
'Lol wut?? Im agreeing with Aurelian’s point bc it’s true. Maybe not all, but two of Miraka’s susses so far (him and Brad) both sussed him first. Also I townlean Stick the only other person I remember you sussing, so I’m not tracking - the blatant buddying with Aurelian and agreeing on an argument that doesn't even make any sense. I already wrote about this before
'Unvote Brad doubling down and Stick's thoughts around their and Miraka's slot makes me want to look at another direction'
'Miraka and Brad but less on Brad more on Miraka right now. Luka Cata Pepeboi also want to dive into these slots I think' - this was Hayumi just pulling stuff out of their ass
Like there's no logical progression at all
Frankly I'm thinking there's probably a mafia in Luka and PepeBoi based on this, more likely to be PepeBoi if you ask me, even though Luka pisses me off more
'Brad for sort of fence sitting on Miraka and not really pushing despite claiming to have reason to sus them. Now that Miraka is voting him he pulled an OMGUS back and kind of doubled down with his vote but he still hasn’t actually given a well thought out reason why..?' - I gave very clear reasons for Brad being mafia and a LOT of people agreed with me too
This post is getting too long, let me break it into parts
Luka's vote on Atsumori as opposed to choosing between the top two wagons is absolutely townie.
Nothing hime has said concerning me being a wolf with Lappland can be perceived as genuine thought.
Stick
Preeminent
oh yeah? i had luka as a townlean until today lmao get real.
Stick
Preeminent
are u aware that people can change their reads? in fact, i think static reads all the way to d4 is scum indicative
luka is my most confident read right now so that's where my vote will stay forever
i admit that lethal COULD be mafia. yes. however im not confident, so i will not vote them.
Those reads were made today.