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Hokage naruto (Boruto) vs dad of war kratos (God of war)
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> Dad of War Nerfed?
> Stated by WoG that he'd EASILY beat his Younger self.
> Baldur is stated to be the strongest opponent he's ever fought in the novelization.
> Stated by WoG that he'd EASILY beat his Younger self.
> Baldur is stated to be the strongest opponent he's ever fought in the novelization.
Bob74h
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Yet none of what he did in GoW 4 compared to his previous exploits. He was rusty and complacent during the game and you know it.> Dad of War Nerfed?
> Stated by WoG that he'd EASILY beat his Younger self.
> Baldur is stated to be the strongest opponent he's ever fought in the novelization.
GOW3 Kratos only beat Zeus after being amped with the Power of Hope. Beating Zeus doesn't scale to base Kratos. Not to mention you're conveniently leaving out the confirmation that GOW4 Kratos > GOW3 Kratos.
Anyways to answer the thread question, it depends on how you interpret Kratos lifting the realms. Since it can either end up with Kratos taking an L or stomping Naruto into the ground.
Wasn't it clear as day that he lifted only the temple? Which was pathetically easy compared to resisting the fingers of the Titan God who held up the entire Greek world over his shoulders. A Titan God who really wasn't even trying to squish Kratos mind you.
Old Kratos would win cause he's older, more experienced, and patient. Wouldn't wear himself out with insane displays of savagery and cause he knows everything young Kratos can and will pull off cause he's done that shit before. Not because he's stronger or whatever.GOW3 Kratos only beat Zeus after being amped with the Power of Hope. Beating Zeus doesn't scale to base Kratos. Not to mention you're conveniently leaving out the confirmation that GOW4 Kratos > GOW3 Kratos.
Again it depends on how you interpret the feat. If you view him as just lifting the temple, then yeah, that's it. If you consider him lifting the realms inside, since the gate contains the bifrost, then it's possible he could be much higher.
The director states that old Kratos would win against young Kratos and that Baldur is the strongest opponent he's fought, and somehow old Kratos isn't as strong as young Kratos? There's no way he isn't stronger during the events of GOW4, stop downplaying.
Didn’t he also say Baldr would lose to Zeus?
The animation director stated that, though it's still someone worth listening to. Not that it matters because what they're most likely talking about is the strongest opponent he's fought without any outside assistance. Since Zeus required a Kratos amped with the Power of Hope to be defeated and absolutely does not scale to normal Kratos. No such assistance was required for Baldur. It's not hard to infer what they mean.
Did you miss the part where I said "Old Kratos is Rusty and Complacent"? Also how sure are you that Baldur was stronger than Zeus, Hades, Thanatos or Ares when all he had going for him was his invincibility? Furthermore, you claim downplay from a guy who played every God of War except for Ascension. Grasping at straws much?
I posted earlier that the director straight up confirmed that old Kratos > young Kratos. I also said nothing about Baldur being stronger than Zeus. I have no idea where you're getting any of this from.
He said nothing about Old Kratos being stronger. Only that he would win.
And? He scales to any feat Young Kratos has done without power-ups, considering he's stated to be capable of beating him.
Also Baldur harming the World Serpent is one of the best feats in the series and Kratos is as strong or stronger physically.
Yes AT THE START of the game, where he's struggling with a Baldur whose not even really trying, he's described as slow and old.
This can't be attributed to him at the end of the game where he is matching Full Power Baldur (who once again, is stated to be the strongest opponent he's ever fought) for extended periods 1 v 1. Kratos obviously shook off any rust he had over the course of the journey.
You and I both know NONE of that would make any difference if there was a significant stat gap between them. Nor would the fight go to Old Kratos "without question" if he was the weaker of the two.
Not to mention that he hasn't even really fought all that much since then (outside of the events of GOW4 itself, that's WHY he's rusty at the start), he spent most of the time between games chilling, all his "experience" comes from the Greek point in his life. And patience will only get you so far if your opponent is superior to you physically.
Cory's response clearly indicates the fight would EASILY go to Old Kratos (ie without question). For that to be the case (and given he matches the "strongest opponent he's ever faced" physically) Old Kratos is obviously stronger than Young Kratos outright.
The only caveat to that is Kratos with Power of Hope
I don't exactly dispute that. What I dispute is Old Kratos being stronger and having more impressive feats than in his youth. He never actually grows weaker, being a God and all that.
I still doubt Baldur was the strongest, especially since Kratos didn't beat him cleanly given how much interference there was in the final boss fight. A lot like Poseidon, who I also don't consider Kratos as having really beaten since he had Gaia's help and that he was distracted fighting not only them but other Titans as well.
See above.
Which he didn't need when he took Hades down with his own Claws and did so with most of his power drained after his Third Death. Plus all that Hope really did was cancel out the evils of Pandora's Box, breaking him free from Zeus' fear mindfuck.
Kratos with a temporary power up > Zeus > old Kratos (EoG) > Baulder > old Kratos (BoG) > young Kratos