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Continuing this here instead of flooding the Circus Thread
But even then, it messes with the established lore from the second game that the Metal Heads were the primary enemies of the Precursors and led by Kor with no mention of Dark Makers, which is why I feel they were sidelined more then anything.
The only explanation I can think of is the Precursors being so embarrassed at being nearly wiped out by their own kind driven insane by Dark Eco (The Dark Makers), that they intentionally kept them a secret and just blamed everything on the Metal heads alone,
Still he might as well have just been a completely different character in 3. Even his past hate for Jak isn’t presented. His first response he has upon meeting Jak again is fear and wishing it was anyone else but him.
I think the game actually peaks at the last part after the Baron finds the Precursor Egg in both story and gameplay with shit like raiding the Ammo Keep to free the rest of the Underground, finally killing Krew in a boss fight before he can release the Piercer Bomb, fighting your way through the city now completely overtaken by Metalheads and turned into a full blown war zone, and fighting your way thought the Metal head nest singlehandedly, activating Mar’s Gun, and confronting Kor
Not to mention, Mar’s Tomb and the second fight with the Baron all before that.
We needed more missions with the Gila Stomper.
Halo’s Warthog’s got nothing on this war machine.
Beam Reflexor was so ridiculous, there were times where I not only cleared the room of enemies, but I’d walk into the next room where I was supposed to meet more enemies just to see only what they leave behind upon dying because several stray shots actually reached and accurately hit them as well
Literally dead before I even faced them.
That is implied with Jak’s comment to Errol about Dark Maker’s “not playing nice” to those who make deals with them while specifically mentioning the Metal Heads.
But even then, it messes with the established lore from the second game that the Metal Heads were the primary enemies of the Precursors and led by Kor with no mention of Dark Makers, which is why I feel they were sidelined more then anything.
The only explanation I can think of is the Precursors being so embarrassed at being nearly wiped out by their own kind driven insane by Dark Eco (The Dark Makers), that they intentionally kept them a secret and just blamed everything on the Metal heads alone,
And a simp for Keira being the source of his grudge against Jak on top of that.
Still he might as well have just been a completely different character in 3. Even his past hate for Jak isn’t presented. His first response he has upon meeting Jak again is fear and wishing it was anyone else but him.
Yes.
You fight the Baron at the end of the Palace section, not the Precursor Temple. And both were some of the best levels in the entire series for men. The Temple for being a fun break from the dystopian future setting of the rest and the Palace just being an incredible moment that ends with your first fight and getting even with the Baron.
I think the game actually peaks at the last part after the Baron finds the Precursor Egg in both story and gameplay with shit like raiding the Ammo Keep to free the rest of the Underground, finally killing Krew in a boss fight before he can release the Piercer Bomb, fighting your way through the city now completely overtaken by Metalheads and turned into a full blown war zone, and fighting your way thought the Metal head nest singlehandedly, activating Mar’s Gun, and confronting Kor
Not to mention, Mar’s Tomb and the second fight with the Baron all before that.
Really easy once you master all the shortcuts.I hated the racing mini-games in Jak 2, which probably kept me from appreciating the stadium
Among the ones you listed, I really liked shooting Metalhead Dinosaurs, the monk temple segment, and blowing up the KG Deathbot factory a lot,
We needed more missions with the Gila Stomper.
Halo’s Warthog’s got nothing on this war machine.
Playing the whole game. I could end everything with just a few rounds of either the Beam Reflexor or the Red’s Plasmite RPG. Especially if you spend orbs to increase your ammo stock and damage output
Beam Reflexor was so ridiculous, there were times where I not only cleared the room of enemies, but I’d walk into the next room where I was supposed to meet more enemies just to see only what they leave behind upon dying because several stray shots actually reached and accurately hit them as well
Literally dead before I even faced them.
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I mean, it was a fairly big part of Jak 2 that no one really understood what was going on with the Metal Heads or where they came from. Jak 3 was just where they finally answered the questions.
I mean, he thought Jak was dead only for him to pop up in the Wasteland alive and well. I'd be scared too.
You fight the Baron at the end of the Temple, too. He's in a giant spider mech thing trying to pry the magic McGuffin out of the wall. Unless I've been thinking of some other place as the Temple.
The last section ramped up the action, but it felt more hectic than anything. There wasn't anything particularly threatening up till the final boss, so it was mostly just a lot of walking and shooting.
That wasn't the Temple?
.......then where was the Temple?
I was just trying to get through them so I could go shoot stuff again
Still can't believe Jax X came out of the same guys who did that shit
The Air Factory was the coolest Haven mission for me. Especially how you get to fly around it before hand stripping it's defenses.
We needed more missions with the Gila Stomper.
Halo’s Warthog’s got nothing on this war machine.
Agreed.
Maybe I just got too used to playing on Hero/Hard mode
I remember running out of Yellow and Blue ammo pretty easy in later firefights (though iirc I also deliberately turned off the ammo/damage upgrades)
Beam Reflexor was so ridiculous, there were times where I not only cleared the room of enemies, but I’d walk into the next room where I was supposed to meet more enemies just to see only what they leave behind upon dying because several stray shots actually reached and accurately hit them as well
Literally dead before I even faced them.
Yeah, that could totally happen in some of the earlier missions with limited enemy counts
@CrossTheHorizon
Mar’s Tomb is where you fight the Baron the second time in the Spider mech.
When I say Temple, I’m talking about the Precursor Temple in Haven Forest.
^ This gorgeous set piece that you tragically only get to visit for that one mission Onin sends you retrieve those artifacts at
Mar’s Tomb is where you fight the Baron the second time in the Spider mech.
When I say Temple, I’m talking about the Precursor Temple in Haven Forest.
^ This gorgeous set piece that you tragically only get to visit for that one mission Onin sends you retrieve those artifacts at
@CrossTheHorizon
Mar’s Tomb is where you fight the Baron the second time in the Spider mech.
When I say Temple, I’m talking about the Precursor Temple in Haven Forest.
^ This gorgeous set piece that you tragically only get to visit for that one mission Onin sends you retrieve those artifacts at
Huh, forgot about this place
Wait doesn't something fall on Daxter as soon as you finish the mission or something
Something bad always happens to Daxter at the end of a mission.Huh, forgot about this place
Wait doesn't something fall on Daxter as soon as you finish the mission or something
Even when he becomes savvy of this and takes measures to avoid it
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Daxter always felt like an underappreciated part of the games, his presence always helped balance Jak even in Jak's worst moments.
Also he's funny as hell
Jak II’s T rating upgrade allowed them to get away with more stuff when it came to the humor which Daxter benefited from more than anyone else.Daxter always felt like an underappreciated part of the games, his presence always helped balance Jak even in Jak's worst moments.
Also he's funny as hell
Funniest parts for me were Daxter’s endless insults to Krew
It’s like Daxter can’t even go a full minute without roasting this guy over his weight
Listening to either of these while hearing that glorious otherworldly roar of the engine when you filled up your Dark Eco gauge
Listening to either of these while hearing that glorious otherworldly roar of the engine when you filled up your Dark Eco gauge
Only racing game I ever played all the way through twice
Peak story and gameplay so good even someone like me enjoyed the races
Old school Naughty Dog nailed racing as much as they did platformers.Only racing game I ever played all the way through twice
Peak story and gameplay so good even someone like me enjoyed the races
This and Crash Team Racing were the two best racing games on PlayStation to this day