Master Galvatron vs Dragon Ball GT

[Bob74h]

the Vector Prime in TFCC is the same one in the Unicron Trilogy and he talks about this in the comic.

When is that stated?
That they are jndeed the same version and not just lookalikes

Like any g1 designed optimus
Eg war for cybertron,marvel optimus and many more

Armada characters aren't planet level. Energon is where planetary feats came from, and Cybertron/Galaxy Force is hilariously above that.

So how did optimus go from what he was in armada
To being planet lv in energon.

It's one continuity so what caused the increase in power? And what's the feats which place energon characters that high anyway

 

[OtherGalaxy]

When is that stated?
That they are jndeed the same version and not just lookalikes

Like any g1 designed optimus
Eg war for cybertron,marvel optimus and many more

he says it right here in TFCC Chapter 2

he is specifically talking about the events of Cybertron/Galaxy Force here

Also he's a multiversal singularity anyways and this comic is where that whole concept started to be established, at the time it was meant to be that he was the exact same guy in every universe but this got changed later on and it's more like different avatars in each universe. Either way it doesn't matter as we have it confirmed it's the same one from Galaxy Force

And the comic opens with him hopping through universes at will explaining why he would be in both series

Marvel, Cartoon, etc are all different Optimuses from different universes

So how did optimus go from what he was in armada
To being planet lv in energon.

It's one continuity so what caused the increase in power? And what's the feats which place energon characters that high anyway

He dies in the process but he stops a planet busting blast from hitting the earth in Armada so even then he was way higher than cave wall level or whatever else you're claiming. I don't remember all of Energon too well but he is in a new body there and even if he wasn't it's....not like series don't give characters new feats as they continue anyways?

@Crimson Dragoon also mentioned Energon Megatron also having a planetary feat but I haven't seen Energon in ages

Regardless, Galaxy Force on its own has much better feats. Characters growing to the size of planets, characters surviving inside a black hole that was casually destroying planets, the comic feats just take them hilariously higher as it boosts the high tiers to galaxy level and changes Primus' feat from a universe level one to way beyond multiversal

 

[Crimson Dragoon]

@Crimson Dragoon also mentioned Energon Megatron also having a planetary feat but I haven't seen Energon in ages

Yeah it happened

Superlink Galvatron destroys a planet:



Autobots say a planet blew up:

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Found an old Tranquil Fury post where he notes that Galvatron also survives a star collapsing so yeah

Energon/Superlink onwards top tiers are well above planet level

I think Unicron's body is also used to create Alpha Q's new universe or something but I forget

 

[OrlandoSky]

"Planet lv unicron trilogy" lol
Full powered energy blast only busts a wall

Dumb arguments like this are the reason why nearly everyone here has you on mute.

 

[Dead Lock]

@Bob74h this you?

 

[OrlandoSky]

Where's that come from?

Kid Buu destroying galaxies, Onega Shenron gradually eroding a galaxy away with his negativity and bad vibes. If Fusion Reborn is indeed canon, Goku shaking the afterlife with SSJ3, Cell’s transformation was so intense the light from his ki could be seen all the way from New Namek, could be some others I’m forgetting, 90s toei canon goes balls to the walls crazy with feats. Buuhan supposedly nearly caused a universal collapse by rage screaming but that was more of an assumption.

 

[Bob74h]

Also he's a multiversal singularity anyways and this comic is where that whole concept started to be established, at the time it was meant to be that he was the exact same guy in every universe

I dont agree with the idea
As he's depicted differently in the alligned continuity same goes with unicron

But yea that specific comic seems to follow the events of the animated show.

@Bob74h this you?

Yep
That's me

I have consistently argued that boruto is much weaker then shippuden

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Yeah it happened

It's stated by optimus that galvatron might of done it but the possibility of him having that kinda power certainly would disprove my intital comment
So ill concede on that matter

 

[Bob74h]

Dumb arguments like this are the reason why nearly everyone here has you on mute.

No the reason was and always has been
Im not allowed to disagree with their precious consensus even when im to have the facts to backup what im saying

Just look at how bad. They lost in the daimao threads where the only rebuutal they had was citing their own opinon and a causual feat city feat.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

I dont agree with the idea
As he's depicted differently in the alligned continuity same goes with unicron

But yea that specific comic seems to follow the events of the animated show.

this is probably the worst example you could have used as the Aligned continuity was not even part of the original multiverse until Rise of the Dark Spark happened, and after that they fused with the multiversal versions of the characters. Also as I said before, the idea behind the concept changed over time. It was originally envisioned as the same guy in every universe, then started being written as all the different versions of X guy were the same even if they looked or acted different.

Ask Vector Prime even goes into detail about how the 13 have different identities in different universes The Fallen is also GoBots The Evil One for example and it's heavily implied Alpha Trion is also Solomus of the Guiding Hand). But they are all part of the same higher dimensional gestalt entity.

and Primus has like 5 different completely strange looking bodies that look nothing like his main planet body.

 

[Bob74h]

this is probably the worst example you could have used as the Aligned continuity was not even part of the original multiverse until Rise of the Dark Spark happened, and after that they fused with the multiversal versions of the characters. Also as I said before, the idea behind the concept changed over time

Yea.
I can understand that might of been the original intention but that's no longer the case as you even said

But yea it would apply to vector pre retcon. I presume

Galvatron also survives a star collapsing so yeah

Could i see that or no?
Like the souce,

 

[OtherGalaxy]

I mean either way it doesn't affect Vector's power in any way or the fact that the TFCC Vector Prime is the same one as Cybertron/Galaxy Force so it's a moot point.

I'll look around for the Energon/Superlink feat, as I said it's been ages since I watched that show proper so I cede to CD usually when it comes to those feats