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Michael Moorcock's Multiverse: Discussion and Analysis

Atem

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Gonna be as fast as possible regarding this because Mbxx is probably gonna delete everything.








Also, once again the ancient sorcerers who resided in Melnibone make note of the fact there was likely an infinite number of alternate earths.

https://i.imgur.com/r9If8AH.png

Also, when Elric falls into the realms of the Lords of Chaos. It is referred to as containing a quasi-infinite amount of universes, and each one drastically different than the other.

https://i.imgur.com/pORV1qp.png


The moonbeams are also referred to as the Infinite Path. The roads between worlds, and what have you.

https://i.imgur.com/SBxZj1L.png


The multiverse is outright noted to be infinite by Myshella. Also, Elric of Melnibone has an incarnation of himself in every plane of existence.

https://i.imgur.com/EYeT8xo.png
https://i.imgur.com/3P8gnjW.png
https://i.imgur.com/0iQVfNQ.png

Monsieur Zenith is revealed to be another one of Elric of Melnibone's incarnations. He has his own version of the "black sword." Just the act of unsealing it causes the entire universe he is in to shake.

https://i.imgur.com/87CQq5Q.png




Elric of Melnibone accidentally creates a black hole, and he is sucked into it. He survives, and is spit out into another sphere.

https://i.imgur.com/a5QXPvs.png


Also, the reason why both the Elric Saga and Doctor Who can both exist is because the conjunction of spheres rebooted the entire multiverse. Doctor Who is what comes after the Elric Saga.











The Holy Grail is powerful enough to instantly destroy an Archduke of Hell.

https://i.imgur.com/oGZnWQd.png










Universes in the Elric Saga are confirmed to be infinite in size once more. In Dancers at the End of Time.

https://i.imgur.com/tau7oHq.png











scenes from the Elric The Balance Lost comics



Billy Bob's ship the Spammer Gain is as large as a universe, and both Kwll and Rhynn are even larger than it.

https://i.imgur.com/yTvs91O.jpg

Rhynn was able to destroy the Cosmic Balance so that both himself and his brother Kwll could have a Game of Time.

https://i.imgur.com/Asy3DgV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cfLZJu1.jpg


Sepiriz is confirmed to have existed throughout numerous cycles when the conjunction of spheres happen. He exists as a guardian of the balance. Sowing seeds of salvation, and destruction for each cycle.

https://i.imgur.com/vpObgOa.png


Here it is.



Specifically, he destroyed half the earth. It wasn't a claim that he could.

It was something he already did in the past.











More on it.

The conflict between Law, and Chaos is the internal struggle of the mortal soul. The death, and rebirth of reality is the mortal soul trying to reconcile how it perceives reality. Basically, it is very Zoroastrian.


Once more we see that the moonbeams are roads leading into other realities, and which people literally walk across. It is so commonplace you can see the moonbeam roads littered with countless travelers making their way to other realities.









 
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Atem

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Michael Moorcock is one of the players in the Game of Time.



Okay, more information.

Besides his connection to it? It is referred to as the roogalator. The Arrow of Artemis. The fulcrum of the Cosmic Balance.











Another tidbit from The Revenge of the Rose.

Stormbringer does not exist in the past, present, or future. It is beyond the understanding of everyone in the Lower, Middle, and Higher Worlds.






 
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Atem

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The cosmic hand. As mentioned by Michael Moorcock in a forward written by him for the Chronicles of the Last Emperor of Melnibone. Which was published in 2008.


Maximilian Silverskin lets loose. He is another incarnation of the Eternal Champion, and puts on quite a show as he restores one particular version of Tanelorn called Karadur.

Taken from Silverheart.







Just to elaborate further on the reconciliation.



Furthermore, just to illustrate how tiny the scale jugadors work in is compared to the Skrayling Tree? While they can create 10th dimensional geometries? The Skrayling Tree is measured in thousands.

Taken from The Dreamthief's Daughter.


Already went over the Zoroastrianism. Now for Three Hearts, and Three Lions. Which serves as the other inspiration for the cosmology of Michael Moorcock's Multiverse.





DC and Moorcock's Multiverse is further intertwined via Tom Strong. Which is published by DC, and written by Moorcock.


 
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Atem

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Just to add more to this. Which is probably why he can't talk more about it. They had a deal going on, and paid him for it. However, for some reason they kept it hush hush.


EverKing has got the gist of it down. This is basically how MMM works.





 

Atem

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As for a proper tier list:

Tier 0: Basically, their Presence or TOAA equivalent.
  • The Cosmic Hand
Tier 1: The big guys. They can basically manhandle the entire multiverse with few exceptions.
  • Four Who are One
  • The Lost Gods: Kwll & Rhynn
  • Agak and Gagak
  • Three Who Are One/Three In One
  • Elric w/King Silverskin & Maximilian Silverheart w/the four ikons or any other equivalents... these are Eternal Champions who have become whole in some way and there's more than a few
  • Stormbringer as the Anti-Balance & John Daker who was able to bring it to heel, and replace the Cosmic Balance
  • The Cosmic Balance, which regulates and controls the Grey Fees
  • The Grey Fees
Tier 2: Law and Chaos bend over for them.
  • The Original Insect
  • The Spammer Gain, otherwise known as the Holy Grail
  • The Dragon Sword, before it was broken into pieces and used to forge Stormbringer and Mournblade
  • Corum w/Hand of Kwll and The Eye of Rhynn
  • Elric w/Horn of Fate
  • Eternal Champions who have mastered the power of their dream quests or found their personal version of Tanelorn (Elric, Corum, Erekose, Dorian, etcetera)
  • The Eternal Predator known as Prince Gaynor the Damned who is a former Eternal Champion who now seeks to destroy himself, and is capable of destroying the Skrayling Tree
  • Ouroboros, otherwise known as The World Serpent, comparable in size to the Skrayling Tree, arguably the most powerful of the phoorn, and whose lifeforce is tied directly to the multiverse... it dies and the multiverse goes with it
Tier 3: Law and Chaos, or The First Ether and Second Ether respectively.
  • Lucifer & Donblas the Justice Maker... however Lucifer is all but stated to be an Eternal Champion and has his own black sword known as Ravenbrand he gave to the Von Beks, and whenever he serves under the role of the EC he's much higher than this
  • Archdukes of Hell & Old Reg (referred to as Satan, and likely the Lawful aspect of Lucifer)
  • The Sword Rulers: Arioch the Knight of Swords, Xiombarg the Queen of Swords, and Mabelode the King of Swords
  • Dukes of Hell & Chaos Engineers, The Dead Gods like Danizhaan, and Lords of Law like Arkyn (he might also be another Eternal Champion) and Quelch
Tier 4: While not on the same level as Law or Chaos they come close.
  • Eternal Champions who are wholly ignorant of who they are, but who still receive massive buffs due to their status
  • Any sorcerer of extreme repute, say for example Baron Kalan who could prematurely cause The Conjunction of Spheres
  • Elemental Lords, and the Grey Lords of Tanelorn
  • Bog-standard human beings who are not beholden to Law or Chaos, and anything with a soul that doesn't serve either The First Ether or the Second Ether, and some mortals like Esbern Snare can hit way above their weight class and defeat Arioch at the cost of their lives
  • Sorcerers who serve either Law or Chaos, or as I like to call them the bottom feeders
  • Beasts or animals, and anything without a soul
I didn't include jugadors or players in the Game of Time because they can be in most of the tiers. A lot of people in each tier have been a jugador at some point, and their power varies wildly between each of them.
 
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bumping this bc I wanted to ask, I haven’t read Sailor in the Seas of Fate yet though I own the books and plan to soon, how faithful is the comic to it? I noticed either Agak or Gagak in the comic tells the Four Who Are One their universe is layered with many dimensions, and the Four cut through “tens of thousands” of those dimensions to draw power to slay them. I know you have a quote somewhere about there being an infinite amount of higher dimensions just for space but if that applies to every single universe, given the way the Scaling property works in the books that’s kind of fucking insane???
 

Atem

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Don't think I have gone over The War Amongst the Angels all that much. Here is a choice bit from it.

Lucifer/Satan, the Old Reg incarnation of him specifically, sharing the blood of the Holy Grail with both Jack and Zenith, and referring to the black blade as himself. Again alluding to the fact he is an Eternal Champion. Zenith literally having angelic silver wings. As one of the Eternal Champions, and likely incarnation of Lucifer to begin with. Lucifer also makes it absolutely clear that he doesn't need to play the Game of Time to bring any of his power to bare, and that he can destroy the multiverse any time he wants.

Taken from The War Amongst the Angels.