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OBD Convo #39: never give up

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I should reread the original gash before checking the sequel i remember absolutely nothing of it

Astaro said:
And I just got kidney stones. Was able to pass it but holy shit, I wouldn’t wish this pain I went through on even my worst enemies
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My entire family has history of kidney stones so i drink as much water as i can trying to avoid them
 

Not only is this story bad, it's boring and drags on way longer than it has any right to. It felt like multiple chapters could have been removed entirely without having to change much of anything, while other characters should have had their chapters later in the story.
ie. Ashra's chapter should have been Kenshi's given that's when he actually gets Sento and he's the one who really does the work against Ermac.

Sure people will probably argue that without her, they wouldn't have found Quan Chi so she deserved the chapter, to which I would point out how integral Geras is to the heroes having ANY chance to win at the end yet HE doesn't get his own chapter.

It really is hard to say weather this is better or worse than MK11 from a story standpoint, the only certainty is that they're both shit.
 

WOW! I forgot just how bad Judai's draws were in this duel (most likely because of the "fear of failure" he was suffering from at the time), he basically got nothing to work with, is it any wonder he lost? ha

Though it was a nice change of pace from Yugi in that (at least early on) Judai was actually capable of losing clean, his LP hitting zero 3 times in Season 1 alone.
 
In the anime, yeah. We didn't see Yugi/Atem take a clean L until season 4, against Raphael.

What I do like about this episode with Judai, which I posted in the previous convo, is that it showed that even Judai, as lucky as he is, is capable of bricking a hand full-on, at least early in the series. Makes him seem more relatable, that way, again, at least early on.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
In the anime, yeah. We didn't see Yugi/Atem take a clean L until season 4, against Raphael.
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And even that has some iffy elements with Atem kind of being tricked into willingly using the Seal of Orichalcos and just not giving a shit about his cards afterwards which set him up to lose.
Yeah basically the SECOND he gets Neos and the Neo Spacians, that's when Judai really hits peak YGO protagonist levels in terms of dueling and not taking Ls anymore.

Same kind of applies to Yuma with him legit not being very good early on and actually losing a lot. It's arguably better done with Yuma, at least from a dueling standpoint in that you see him progress over the course of the whole series, from dumbass novice to god tier duelist.
 
shade0180 said:
It's not even a clean L.

I remember yugi could still make a comeback but got mind fucked so bad he willingly lose.
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Yugi had no way of winning against Raph based on the cards he had, pre-Seal of Orichalcos. Post Seal, he had a route to victory, but didn't know he did, and made a huge misplay.
 
If I recall it right, in season 4, Judai would've taken an L to Fujimaru(I think that's his name) at one point, but unless I'm tripping, there were shenanigans going on during it, which would've ensured it wouldn't have been a clean L, anyway.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
If I recall it right, in season 4, Judai would've taken an L to Fujimaru(I think that's his name) at one point, but unless I'm tripping, there were shenanigans going on during it, which would've ensured it wouldn't have been a clean L, anyway.
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Fujiwara actually.

That duel was technically a three way duel featuring Johan, though mostly the protagonists worked together except for one point where Fujiwara tempts Johan into attacking Judai, which he does because "rivals" and shit.

Obviously you could argue that since Rainbow Neos and Honest (who was actually Fujiwara's card initially) would prove integral to Judai winning, that he didn't win clean per se but I don't think there was a point where he would have lost either.
 
Vespa Crabro said:
Reminder they set up that one guy with Exodia/Exodius and then just shoved him into a fridge and never did anything with him ha
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Yubel (in Johan's body) beat him in a duel, straight up killed him and fed on his darkness to restore itself from the duel with Hell Kaiser.
I mean I know he was just fed to Yubel (literally) but they DID do something with him.
 
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