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OBD Convo #59: RealxEyes
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Alright, I'm coming in here because I tend to not comment on things that I watch because usually, I want to keep it to myself or not slander anyone... but goddamn, I think I fully understand why people hate nitpickers
To put the point across, I was watching a video by a Youtuber named Sheev Talks and he's basically one of the people who basically came about due to the MauLer explosion that came with The Last Jedi and primarily he's a Star Wars guy with his own critiques and takes on the franchise. So with the 25 Years Later of the Prequels, he tended to have his own nitpicks and takes towards and goes on the usual spiel about them from his mind and I usually just took them in and either agreed or disagreed with them(I even tended to ignore his obvious political takes when he randomly put them into random videos... Daredevil...)
But what finally got me to basically put this shit on here is his take on the 25 Years Later the Revenge of The Sith and holy fuck, I fully get why people just don't like nitpickers. So okay yes, The Prequels are not the greatest movies ever and they have plenty of flaws but holy fuck, between him still trying to glaze the OT as if it's the fucking pinnacle of Star Wars, bringing up the Revenge of The Sith Novelization(Great Novelization, by the way, no joke) but then barely pulling ANYTHING FROM IT(Despite it primarily answering his nitpicks) and somehow still stating "The Inhibitor Chips is better" but his takes on why the Clones can't be just that loyal without being indoctrinated and justifying the Inhibitor Chips across other things... it somehow just vexes me to no end and I was basically just arguing in how much context he missed throughout the Prequel Trilogy despite discounting the EU around the Prequel Trilogy at that.
Like it's one thing to basically point out that the Jedi and Sith are more durable than people give credit for but then a whole ass can of worms to say "Obi-Wan not dying when Dooku basically drops a balcony on him while he's unconscious destroys the stakes" without immediately realizing how retarded that sounds. It's probably the same way that people fully believe that somehow Jedi and Sith can't affect each other with The Force is also pure fanon and never been anything stated in canon(With only Battlefront 1 showing that and even that's with the obvious HERO characters or the bosses in TFU).
I have legit never seen such a bad take as in "It can't be a tragedy if the Jedi knew about Order 66 in advance" when unironically, the very thing he wants to discount from that shows that Order 65 was basically having the Clones do a reverse uno on the CHANCELLOR and that's what the Jedi planned to do as a last resort before Sidious got the ammo to justify it first to everyone else(Which would justify it as a tragedy anyway since the Jedi was ultimately done in by their own hubris). It's even more insane to state that "Anakin has no reason to immediately go full Sith and slaughter kids due to indirectly killing Mace but then cry killing the Genoshians" but ignore that Anakin was crying over ALL THE SHIT HE DID once he finally had time to really ruminate in it(It's extremely obvious Anakin knew he fucked up and literally had nowhere else to go anymore BUT with Sidious to save Padme... which ultimately wasn't worth it, that's the entire point). And it's a really, REALLY bad take to then say that "there should have been more with Dooku because it's Christopher Lee and Grievous should have been removed because they could have had the same roles" but completely ignore that as he himself stated Maul, Dooku and Grievous all represented Darth Vader and acting as if Dooku could easily just replace Grievous and also take his points is just absolutely silly and completely undermines Dooku as a character and as a tragic figure.
Like there is so many things that has me flabbergasted that he even made this video with the obvious errors and misunderstandings and still do this despite people(myself included) gave many reasons for why the Inhibitor Chips is shit but not only does he ignore, he does the most pathetic strawman arguments to simply ignore that yes, The Clones are just that loyal to the Republic and no, they don't need to be brainwashed to be so that's what makes them terrifying(Especially as they came from Jango freaking Fett).
Sorry for that rant, watched well over an hour of this and I really needed to get that off my chest, carry on.
To put the point across, I was watching a video by a Youtuber named Sheev Talks and he's basically one of the people who basically came about due to the MauLer explosion that came with The Last Jedi and primarily he's a Star Wars guy with his own critiques and takes on the franchise. So with the 25 Years Later of the Prequels, he tended to have his own nitpicks and takes towards and goes on the usual spiel about them from his mind and I usually just took them in and either agreed or disagreed with them(I even tended to ignore his obvious political takes when he randomly put them into random videos... Daredevil...)
But what finally got me to basically put this shit on here is his take on the 25 Years Later the Revenge of The Sith and holy fuck, I fully get why people just don't like nitpickers. So okay yes, The Prequels are not the greatest movies ever and they have plenty of flaws but holy fuck, between him still trying to glaze the OT as if it's the fucking pinnacle of Star Wars, bringing up the Revenge of The Sith Novelization(Great Novelization, by the way, no joke) but then barely pulling ANYTHING FROM IT(Despite it primarily answering his nitpicks) and somehow still stating "The Inhibitor Chips is better" but his takes on why the Clones can't be just that loyal without being indoctrinated and justifying the Inhibitor Chips across other things... it somehow just vexes me to no end and I was basically just arguing in how much context he missed throughout the Prequel Trilogy despite discounting the EU around the Prequel Trilogy at that.
Like it's one thing to basically point out that the Jedi and Sith are more durable than people give credit for but then a whole ass can of worms to say "Obi-Wan not dying when Dooku basically drops a balcony on him while he's unconscious destroys the stakes" without immediately realizing how retarded that sounds. It's probably the same way that people fully believe that somehow Jedi and Sith can't affect each other with The Force is also pure fanon and never been anything stated in canon(With only Battlefront 1 showing that and even that's with the obvious HERO characters or the bosses in TFU).
I have legit never seen such a bad take as in "It can't be a tragedy if the Jedi knew about Order 66 in advance" when unironically, the very thing he wants to discount from that shows that Order 65 was basically having the Clones do a reverse uno on the CHANCELLOR and that's what the Jedi planned to do as a last resort before Sidious got the ammo to justify it first to everyone else(Which would justify it as a tragedy anyway since the Jedi was ultimately done in by their own hubris). It's even more insane to state that "Anakin has no reason to immediately go full Sith and slaughter kids due to indirectly killing Mace but then cry killing the Genoshians" but ignore that Anakin was crying over ALL THE SHIT HE DID once he finally had time to really ruminate in it(It's extremely obvious Anakin knew he fucked up and literally had nowhere else to go anymore BUT with Sidious to save Padme... which ultimately wasn't worth it, that's the entire point). And it's a really, REALLY bad take to then say that "there should have been more with Dooku because it's Christopher Lee and Grievous should have been removed because they could have had the same roles" but completely ignore that as he himself stated Maul, Dooku and Grievous all represented Darth Vader and acting as if Dooku could easily just replace Grievous and also take his points is just absolutely silly and completely undermines Dooku as a character and as a tragic figure.
Like there is so many things that has me flabbergasted that he even made this video with the obvious errors and misunderstandings and still do this despite people(myself included) gave many reasons for why the Inhibitor Chips is shit but not only does he ignore, he does the most pathetic strawman arguments to simply ignore that yes, The Clones are just that loyal to the Republic and no, they don't need to be brainwashed to be so that's what makes them terrifying(Especially as they came from Jango freaking Fett).
Sorry for that rant, watched well over an hour of this and I really needed to get that off my chest, carry on.
I dig it.
I still don't know what the fuck is going on in NXT for Tatum Paxley. Last year she was competing for the NXT women's title in a triple threat match against Lyra and Roxanne and the CROWD WANTED HER to win over them. What has Shawn done with her since? Absolutely fucking nothing.
You released her two partners/friends, you obviously kept her because you know that she is STILL super over so why the fuck do you continue to do nothing with her Shawn? You have her out here losing to Jaida Parker even as the crowd is still behind Tatum. Now I appreciate that she at least has a storyline going but this better fucking lead to her actually doing something of substance.
And no, absolutely do not have her join the Culling (they were standing in the background of her backstage segment last night). Because then she'll just be playing second fiddle to Izzy "I have no idea why she gets TV time at all when all she has going for her is being tall" Dame. Not to mention they're all jobbers anyway.
Either push her or release her and let her go to TNA 'cause I have no doubt they'd push her. They consistently treat her better there when she shows up than on NXT.
As for this.
I get that you want Stephanie on the main roster but why then didn't you just have Jordynne Grace win at Battleground? These three have barely won a match (even as a unit) in months and now Jacy manages to beat Stephanie (with shenanigans but still). I get it makes for a great shock moment but she's hardly deserving of the title even from a heel standpoint.
The only thing I can think of is Jordynne hasn't really been getting the big reactions lately and maybe Shawn thinks dethroning these three will get the fans behind Jordynne? Which is okay but I'd have just cut out the middle man, especially since this match had basically no build behind it either while the Jordynne one did.
You released her two partners/friends, you obviously kept her because you know that she is STILL super over so why the fuck do you continue to do nothing with her Shawn? You have her out here losing to Jaida Parker even as the crowd is still behind Tatum. Now I appreciate that she at least has a storyline going but this better fucking lead to her actually doing something of substance.
And no, absolutely do not have her join the Culling (they were standing in the background of her backstage segment last night). Because then she'll just be playing second fiddle to Izzy "I have no idea why she gets TV time at all when all she has going for her is being tall" Dame. Not to mention they're all jobbers anyway.
Either push her or release her and let her go to TNA 'cause I have no doubt they'd push her. They consistently treat her better there when she shows up than on NXT.
As for this.
I get that you want Stephanie on the main roster but why then didn't you just have Jordynne Grace win at Battleground? These three have barely won a match (even as a unit) in months and now Jacy manages to beat Stephanie (with shenanigans but still). I get it makes for a great shock moment but she's hardly deserving of the title even from a heel standpoint.
The only thing I can think of is Jordynne hasn't really been getting the big reactions lately and maybe Shawn thinks dethroning these three will get the fans behind Jordynne? Which is okay but I'd have just cut out the middle man, especially since this match had basically no build behind it either while the Jordynne one did.
Regular-Nothing Eric
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AcidSoup
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5 hours remain. Won't be sleeping until done with the canto. Pass level is 64 still, but when I get the Hong Lu waw unlocked I will likely use the anniversary free ego uptie 4 item on it since he's been rising in opinion quickly
Regular-Nothing Eric
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Where this image from nigga?
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