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OBD Convo #59: RealxEyes
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The first group didn't even know he had organs and were more concerned with not getting diced to pieces, they literally didn't have the time to try this.
While true they did try using the force to hit him from afar and he just jumped too fast for them to catch him plus the other times could just be the Jedi Code working against them as crushing someone's organs is a very Sith thing to do. Windu being the kind of Jedi who deals with the Dark Side more than most is one of the few to actually use it due to his greater discipline.
They address that in his training scene with Dooku. He specifically has to rely on fear and intimidation along with blitzkreig attacks to keep Jedi off balance so they won't do what Windu did.
Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc wasn't Windu also less specialized in using Force abilities itself than he was with a lightsaber? I don't remember where I read that from, but if that's true that also implies that Windu not only almost instantly killed Grievous, he did so without even being at his best. Which wouldn't surprise me if that were the case, because Windu beat the same Palpatine that almost killed Luke and actually killed Vader years later.
For what it's worth Windu canonically has an ability that let's him amp himself off the enemies power if they're a Sith, which is the reason he "beat" Palpatine.
Palpatine was also implied to let him win since he wanted to give Anakin the final push, but the fight was still fairly even.
I heard he is maybe not as powerful in the force as Yoda but that does not mean he is not powerful on his own. I think he is the better duelist of the two but a lot of his good performance against Sidious (in the old EU at least) was that his Saber style, Vaapaad, allowed him to channel the Dark Side against their own users, making him almost a kryptonite against Dark Side users, and an ability called Shatterpoints which allows him to see and strike at the weakest points of his enemy. Windu had to use both of these at their fullest extent against Sidious which was dangerous because Vaapaad in particular can just as easily lead you to the Dark Side as it can combat it since you're essentially drawing upon the Dark Side power of someone else to beat them. At the same time I don't remember if Windu could use Tutaminis(the ability to reflect energies such as Force Lightning that you see Yoda use in AOTC and ROTS) or at least don't think if he could do it as well as Yoda.
Not to mention the Sidious Mace fought is no where near as strong as the one in ROTJ just because he is older and therefore even more powerful, especially the one that came back as a Clone in Dark Empire.
Reminder that after creating the Empire, Palps was so bored he started inventing new Force Powers 
Man, this series was so good.
Man do I wish we got a full series of this instead of TCW, this was far closer to the comics and novels at the time and felt way cooler in presentation and connecting the films.
I like a lot of the Clone Wars show, but I'd trade everything in it for more of the Genndy show.
Uh, except for that one arc where a Jedi went dark mode and made his clones kill each other in a fake war before they turned on him and eventually took him down
I wanna keep that one.
