Phoenix Jean (X-Men: TAS) VS the MCU

[GoldenHeart]

Enters

R1: This is regular Phoenix
R2: This is Dark Phoenix

How far does she get?

 

[Doronbo_Shirake]

I guess she clears. Jean destroyed a Star System while fighting a Shi'ar battleship. Unless Infinity Ultron and Strange Supreme are included in the MCU group.

 

[GoldenHeart]

What If is included yes

 

[Doronbo_Shirake]

What If is included yes

And I forgot about Dormammu. Then, I believe Jean stops there. These three characters are stronger.

 

[OrlandoSky]

What speed does she have because Strange or Wanda could just instakill her with transmutation hax or dimensional BFR, If we're counting IG users there's also Thanos. Odin also turned Frega and his chalice into constellations too. A couple of the Celestials also formed galaxies on-screen during Arishem's flashback

 

[GoldenHeart]

What speed does she have

Nygma calced this feat at these values

Phoenix flies from the sun to the earth in seconds

She goes from the Sun to Venus in about 5.5 seconds.

108000000000 meters / 5.5 seconds = 19636363636.4 m/s or ~65.49 times FTL

There's a jump cut from venus to Earth. So this is the more reasonable time frame. Also, Venus is only a bit less than 30% closer to the Sun, and Jean's travel time increases by about the same amount.

Dunno exactly where the MCU sits at beyond also being FTL

because Strange or Wanda could just instakill her with transmutation hax or dimensional BFR

She showed to ability to open a portal into another solar system so idk if BFR would work

Transmutation wise she hasn't shown any resistance, but she has shown the ability herself (she turns a tree into gold)

DC wise she should be galactic, most minimum, based on the fact she can contain D'Kan with the M'Kraan Crystal, which held a galaxy inside it that threatened to absorb the Milky Way and more.
Here's a TLDR on my thots

Scaling wise, Phoenix/the M'Kraan Crystal are either:

Low end = galaxy level (the crystal is stated to have a negative galaxy inside it, is repeatedly stated to be able to destroy the galaxy and was sucking it overtime)

Mid end = multi-galaxy (Lilandra states it is a threat to both hers and Xavier's galaxies)

High end = universal (D'Kan is stated to be creating a universe inside the Crystal, is stated to be able to end everything we know/everything that is)

 

[OrlandoSky]

Nygma calced this feat at these values


Dunno exactly where the MCU sits at beyond also being FTL

The high tiers are MFTL (mostly from CM and Thor)
-Carol flying to Earth after getting paged by Nick Fury was millions FTL
-Carol saving Tony and Nebula's ship was Hundreds of thousands FTL
-Carol flying from Earth to Tarnak IV in a few minutes was also hundreds of thousands FTL
-A variant of Carol flying to Earth to fight Thor in one of the What If episodes
-Zeus lightning bolt flying Thor to the edge of the universe was in the quadrillions FTL (Thor earlier caught the bolt and threw it back at Zeus so he gets reaction scaling from it)
-Strange telekinetically yanking the time stone to him from it's location light-years away in a couple seconds is Millions FTL
-Khonshu used spatial manipulation to reverse the constellations' locations around Earth to what their exact positions were hundreds of thousands of years ago in a couple of minutes (dunno what speed but it was definitely MFTL given how fast the moon was zipping around)
-Adam Warlock making a round trip between Counter Earth and Knowhere in the same day (hundreds to low thousands FTL) WOG from Gunn is that Adam Warlock is in the same weight class as Thor and Carol.

 

[GoldenHeart]

Looks like she'd get blitzed

Would equalizing speed change anything?