none actually thinks ur stupid ratchy, just that you have basically been pro-mafia the entire game. you were playing to your wincon and welp, got caught doing soI don't really understand why we are taking RDK off the board entirely - fully appreciate that he's unlikely to be fake claiming Indie, but I find that scenario far less implausible than Fuji claiming Hated as Mafia, and tbh, even Flower duelling her scum mate after subbing in (though I can see the angle here). But I mean we work with what we have I suppose. And no I don't think RDK is strongmanning Ultra N1 either. In this case RDK would be detatched scum at best.
@Fujishiro As this seems to have been lost here, I'm including you out of virtue of not being hard cleared. Basically, I see anyone with a good fundamental understanding of Ranked conventions and are active/engaged as impossible to be scum, by virtue of the ploys the scum team have tried to go for. This really ought to be enough to clear me, too, but apparently people here think I'm bad or stupid or something. As you fit some of the profile, I've included you, but I took great care to say you wouldn't be my first or second or third option.
My main lynch would be Aurelian. Then, I could possibly see it being RDK (detached) or Flower (gambit). If RDK is off the board entirely, then I'd go Aurelian > Flower. I hope that makes sense, and I'm not met with "but how can you possibly include me" hysteria.
I'm literally being primed to be shot tonight ladI don't really understand why we are taking RDK off the board entirely - fully appreciate that he's unlikely to be fake claiming Indie, but I find that scenario far less implausible than Fuji claiming Hated as Mafia, and tbh, even Flower duelling her scum mate after subbing in (though I can see the angle here). But I mean we work with what we have I suppose. And no I don't think RDK is strongmanning Ultra N1 either. In this case RDK would be detatched scum at best.
@Fujishiro As this seems to have been lost here, I'm including you out of virtue of not being hard cleared. Basically, I see anyone with a good fundamental understanding of Ranked conventions and are active/engaged as impossible to be scum, by virtue of the ploys the scum team have tried to go for. This really ought to be enough to clear me, too, but apparently people here think I'm bad or stupid or something. As you fit some of the profile, I've included you, but I took great care to say you wouldn't be my first or second or third option.
My main lynch would be Aurelian. Then, I could possibly see it being RDK (detached) or Flower (gambit). If RDK is off the board entirely, then I'd go Aurelian > Flower. I hope that makes sense, and I'm not met with "but how can you possibly include me" hysteria.
gram is tracker, im a watcher/scholar5. Ratchet - Refiller
6. Poyser - BG
7. Lethal - Vig
8. Aurelian - Mason
9. Grammaton - ?
10. Fujishiro - Hated
16. Alexis2282AEFlower - Duelist
17. Emil - ?
18. RDK - Survivor
Anyone to fill in the gaps?
tempest was on D1, tho probably not after due to the claim thingI don't even know why I'm being lynched lol, like we've skipped the part where Ekko makes his case so I can defend it, just gone straight to "just lynch him because Ekko says so". Ekko is a very very bad reader of mine. That's just demonstrably true. Oh he can scum read me like the best of them - it's all he ever does! But if there is one person that it's poorly advised to blind sheep on, it's Ekko IRT me.
@Emil I don't think Tempest was reading me scum and Ultra is second only to you in terms of being unable to read me. So, I mean...
my accuracy in reading u has been pretty high lately so this is already untrueI don't even know why I'm being lynched lol, like we've skipped the part where Ekko makes his case so I can defend it, just gone straight to "just lynch him because Ekko says so". Ekko is a very very bad reader of mine. That's just demonstrably true. Oh he can scum read me like the best of them - it's all he ever does! But if there is one person that it's poorly advised to blind sheep on, it's Ekko IRT me.
@Emil I don't think Tempest was reading me scum and Ultra is second only to you in terms of being unable to read me. So, I mean...
How have I been pro-mafia? Day 1 I was one of the first on Soul, I supported the wagon up until he claimed, and then I got off it because of his watcher claim. If you have counter claimed him like you should have, I would have happily lynched him there. And even in spite of that, I still ended up voting him out. I'm getting strongly gaslit by you over this, and I don't understand why.none actually thinks ur stupid ratchy, just that you have basically been pro-mafia the entire game. you were playing to your wincon and welp, got caught doing so
I saw Yoho's claim and my takeaway was "we should probably lynch him anyway". So how is that pro-mafia?
I said I thought Nibel was possibly town and that I didn't fully agree with him being scum. Where did I weaken the push on Yoho?nudged nibel direction instead
He might be scum. Probably is, even.aurelian in day 1,
I'm just going to assume you're trying to make this unpleasant so I won't engage with this.you've been basically doing so much work for the scum team, more than all of them combined honestly
In your head maybe. I would disagree.my accuracy in reading u has been pretty high lately so this is already untrue
Sparkles was being duelled. No need to push her, she was done. I voted for Flower to win.pushed gad over sparkle
I know, but I'm being told that I was pro mafia and was pushing away from him, and I'd like to know how.I mean, it was an absolutely horrendous claim lol. You couldn't have really had any other believable reaction
this could be telling because at no point before this had sparkles ever even remotely considered ratchet as scum prior to this. I'd need to read the posts around it, but judging from the context it kinda seems like CP was pushing ratchet at the time, which could have spooked her to make sure she gets something on recordI guess Ratchy could be scum too, not really the player I seeing as having the most equity or my preferred vote rn but I mean could be. Don’t really like CP being so hyper focused on me and him for his vote. So I mean gives me pause.
Didn’t particularly enjoy Aurelian’s posts this game, could be scum too. Yoho could also be scum. Nibel/Alexis how the fuck do you want me to read?
Or she saw several townies express suspicion on me and felt the need to throw her hat into the ring.this could be telling because at no point before this had sparkles ever even remotely considered ratchet as scum prior to this. I'd need to read the posts around it, but judging from the context it kinda seems like CP was pushing ratchet at the time, which could have spooked her to make sure she gets something on record
this is all talking about the end result, ofcourse ud position urself this way, im talking about how u got there itself. its the process that pro-scum. in day 1 soul was never ur preference, and you tried to push for sparkle being town by agreeing with the town cases for her, u did both in a way that they cant be traced easily back to you via simply agreeing or deferring to other players, but your deferral has been selective to what benefits your team. in day 1 every time someone brings up saber gad luka or aurelian ud try to get something going there. every time someone town reads soul (not much) or sparkle, ud try to push that thought forward. u tried to discredit ultra's confidence on soul by saying soul told u in a call he doesnt feel like ultra fooled him, ergo implying soul isnt rly playing as scummy as ultra calls him out for. it's subtle but it's intended to diffuse the wagon. your EoD pushes in day 1 were also making the day very close to no lynch. at the bear minimum u were pushing for more claims out of bunch of townies to make soul's lynch as damaging as possibleHow have I been pro-mafia? Day 1 I was one of the first on Soul, I supported the wagon up until he claimed, and then I got off it because of his watcher claim. If you have counter claimed him like you should have, I would have happily lynched him there. And even in spite of that, I still ended up voting him out. I'm getting strongly gaslit by you over this, and I don't understand why.
Day 2, was hammered before I even voted. It was an early hammer and I didn't realise it was that close. I wouldn't have hammered early anyway. I saw Yoho's claim and my takeaway was "we should probably lynch him anyway". So how is that pro-mafia? I did defend Sparkles, because I didn't really see the angle for her being scum there. I was hardly alone in that. At best, it parries out.
Day 3, I mean the duel was obvious so I didn't combat that, and I did try to explore slots after Gad. In fact at times this game I've tried to find Gad town, but he makes it so difficult on purpose.
So how on Earth have I been pro-mafia all game? Have I played an outstanding game? No, but I think I've supported perfectly well. I've used my role to refill useful town roles, I've helped lynch scum. Pro-Mafia is really unfair.
think of it this way, if its fang/flower/RDK they dont have a path of winning so its not the end of the worldOr she saw several townies express suspicion on me and felt the need to throw her hat into the ring.
I really don't get it lol, like pretty much every competent scum player can be cleared off the back of what the scum team has done, except for me, because I guess I need the challenge or something? This town is literally making an easy, automatic game everything but because they're not taking things at face value and instead trying to find some special meaning to everything. No there is no 5d chess play here, I've played a supporting cast role and I'm content with it.
claims so farHello
I got a result last night. Could everyone claim what they did please