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Game Ranked Tales of Arise Mafia - Game Thread

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Poyser said:
Tbf, I knew pretty early yesterday that soulkiller was very likely to be scum due to ultras indigence around it, just had no intention of voting with him due to him being a nob all day and his encouraging of Ekko to be a smelly ****
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This is towny in the worst possible way, practically a self confession
 
Grammaton said:
In junks defence she was consistently on fuji during day 1 - however it must be said that calling for actions on fuji ("He should be looked into") then driving him with someone almost certainly town is kinda mad
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This feels like simply bad logic? Drive somebody whos likely to get attacked with somebody likely to die is how I'm used to drivers being used. Not sure if it's like different but I'm not a large fan of this reasoning tbh
 
Luka said:
This feels like simply bad logic? Drive somebody whos likely to get attacked with somebody likely to die is how I'm used to drivers being used. Not sure if it's like different but I'm not a large fan of this reasoning tbh
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Not if you town read one of the people being bus driven.
 
SoulKiller said:
Okay caught up, don't really like Luka playing around the 'slip', it is damning and hard to ignore, him claiming VT does not really help his case either, is there a world where he can be town? sure, but imagine losing to a ningen who outed himself and we let him cruise by because??? Poyser I feel like gets resolved as well based on Luka flip. Like I don't think the guy is scum if luka flips scum for example. I would comfortably put him in the townie list. However, in the chance luka flips townie here, then probably an ISO will be over due to the guy and it comes down to, how much poyser as a player would go far as to get townie cred??

Ultra weird fixation on Gab I found odd..... I find Ultra slot to be interesting here because he has good interaction with Gab and Poyser here. Now no shot in hell if we assume ultra is scum here to go back and forth like this with his scum partner in poyser or his scum partner in gab here. So going the SvS interaction route in either interaction seems too much, especially early into the DP. Ultra being scum and interacting with both townies in Poyser and Gab is plausabile, but would Ultra as scum really go this hardcore on both?assuming both poyser and gab are townie?? hmmmmm. Ultra being townie here makes more sense to me, atleast I think it's more likely to be the case for now.
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Poyser said:
This bottom bit is a weird one but I can see the thought process tbf. Think you’re probably town
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Poyser said:
Tbf, I knew pretty early yesterday that soulkiller was very likely to be scum due to ultras indigence around it, just had no intention of voting with him due to him being a nob all day and his encouraging of Ekko to be a smelly ****
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??
 
I also feel it pertinent to point out that Sparkles claiming driving fuji / ultra is insane as scum unless they actually did so, in which they still likely wouldnt claim it
 
Poyser said:
1. Ultra
2. Sparkles
3. Sharter Holmes
4. Saber
5. Ratchet
7. Lethal
8. Aurelian
9. Grammaton
10. Fujishiro
11. Tempest
12. Chairman Nibel
13. Yoho
14. Luka
15. SoulKiller
16. Alexis2282AE
17. Emil
18. RDK

Probably about here atm although I realise the lack of reads is an issue.

Luka I don’t really read him town based on his own play, although other than the potential slip I don’t really have a problem with him. It’s more that I’d be fairly surprised if at least one of ultra and Ekko aren’t scum and I don’t really see either being scum with luka

I really liked gad’s points about ultra. I do think that ultra is being performative in how he’s dealing with people and acting atrociously obnoxious about his reads which hasn’t really been earned. Regardless of ultra’s actual alignment, I consider posts like these a bit out of gad’s wheelhouse as scum. Plus the fact that I said already about his reaction to being pushed earlier by ultra for his reads

Ratchet is because he shut down ultra trying to suspect based on about 2 posts I’d made. I really don’t see him doing that as scum where I think he’d be much happier to let people suspect me and perhaps even encourage it somewhat. Not that he would never town read me as scum, it was more the earliness of it and the fact he used it to try and shut down someone else. Be fairly surprised if that came from scum

Ultra I could actually see going either way, he certainly is stubborn and just horrible to interact with as town too, so I could be misreading it although I do think he’s got good scum potential. I do read Ekko scum more strongly tho based on my posts above

I should probably have more of an opinion on sparkles tbh especially as people are voting her and Tempest is pretty familiar with her and thinks she’s scum so I’ll probably iso her in a sec
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Ratchet said:
I think Luka makes sense as a partner for Soul. He felt very encouraged when Soul was getting suspicion on him, basically like there was no real consequence to him doing so. Could be that as town he felt it was an easier direction but meh, would say that sort of play tends to come from being partnered more than not.
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I voted him later too? You even brought this up lmfao
This is a case that basically says "Yeah they were correct pretty wolfy amirite"
 
Emil said:
holy shit this read on ultra is sooo inorganic there is no way posyer is actually giving u a town read for this

:heston
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Poyser said:
What’s inorganic about it? Specifically?
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Poyser said:
I obviously don’t agree with his read of ultra, but I don’t have any issue with how he got there whatsoever
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Poyser said:
Seems like he was exactly taking your play into consideration and decided he didn’t see it making sense from either angle if you were scum and thus concluded you’re more likely town?
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so uh, when exactly did you know soul was probably scum? because you were actively defending him
 
Ratchet said:
I kinda wanted to let it play out but I'm not very confident on the Sparkles direction. Could just be overthinking but, I'm struggling to see why, as Scum, she claims busdriver and to have swapped Ultra with Fuji with the knowledge that it's just going to be questioning her claim due to the busdrive not working. Could be that she just claimed the first thing that made sense, I guess. But holistically, I feel like something is missing from the bigger picture. Can't quite put my finger on it.
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Thank you for affirming I'm not inasne
tbh I was going to vote you after I was done catching up but might not after this
 
Fujishiro said:
How would she save Ultra by bus driving her with me who was likely a vig target? Or am I missing something?
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I mean, the idea is that:
1. Ultra is 99% going to die that night
2. Worst case, you get vig shot (this is unlikely to happen, isn't Saber / Sparkles just more likely? The only heat you got D1 was with Ultra saying "let's get a claim out of fuji")

So basically like:
It's more expected to pay off than not pay off
At the very least coming from a ToS oriented brain (aka a bad one lmfao) I understand the action and I fail to see why people are choosing to suspect it
 
Vote Lynch Fujishiro
I also think you're scum, sorry </3
Nearly the entire day if thread consensus on Poyser is to be believed was TvT, you basically did nothing throughout that entire day and avoided every single point of contention like I mentioned prior
I'm also just fine with voting Ratchet granted, I dont think I have anything to town from them, Ultra's legacy, the EOD was a semi-pivot on SK I hate their push on me ect. but it feels much more iffy voting Ratchet since I'm not noticing large meta differences largely due to me not knowing Ratchets meta
Also stop towning Gad imho ->
Actually have a theory of Poyser / Gad due to Poysers defense of Gad D1 and poyser doing nothing really town worthy
 
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