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The Elder Scrolls vs Shin Megami Tensei vs Xenogears

There was also Stephen Hawking being able to pull everyone across all the multiverses in SMT V.
 
YHVH isn't even doing that in the Amala Universe, that's his chief avatar, Kagutuschi and the subordinate Kagutuschis which rule over each universe/Conception. That shit is so down on the totem pole to Ed Bighead he doesn't care, not that he doesn't scale to it, just that its minuscule to in importance to him. Metatron even at his weakest, would slap the shit out of the main Kagutsuchi and the same one got literally OHKO'd by Demiurge/Baby YHVH post-loss to the Mothers in Strange Journey.

at face value the Aurbis alone sounded pretty similar to how the dark tower's cosmology works and we usually have that among the strongest series here, but I'm not an expert on TES just going off what I had seen in past threads
The Aurbis feat was replicated by Mem Alpeh while she was sleeping in the Schwarzewelt in Strange Journey. Each layer was an infinitely sized dimension and its realm, as its own universe, that was larger paradoxically then the preceding ones. Arthur and Zelenin even confirm this in the game's story early on that there are more layers to the Schwarzewelt then they actually directly encounter or interact with (Horogrim for example is noted being made up of countless sub-dimensions, time-space pockets and infinite loops) and Mem Alpeh, in her weaker form, while sleeping, is keeping all that power in generating them.

"The simple explanation goes like this... We thought the Schwarzwelt was a multilayered structure connected by quantum tunnels. The thing is... There's a trap preventing us from escaping. If we keep going through the tunnel, it's an infinite loop. In other words... No matter how far we climb, we can't reach the top. Before we know it, we're back at the start. It's like an infinite stairway... A pretty nasty trick of space-time." - Kato/Strange Journey




There's also more bullshit in SMT like the Akashaic Records in Nocturne and especially Devil Survivor 2 with Polaris. There's tons of other stuff.
 
経絡の向こうの奥底、
無限のアマラからオレの守護がやってくる

そこにいるのは、時間の流れからも外れ
名前すら失った存在

... From the depths beyond the meridian,
Beyond the infinite Amara my guardian will come

Existing in that place, it is outside the flow of time
A being without even a name...
 
that's how the outcome of this thread goes

smt top tiers > tes = high tiers of smt > first arc elric >> xenogears
 
The problem with Xenogears isn't that Keo wasn't dishonest or misrepresenting things but in light of all the shit with Jakk in particular involving Genesis-Vall and Xenogears/Xenosaga makes some of the things he put or claimed on questionable terms
 
i don't have prob with keo

guy just headcanon'd saiyuki and xenogears, a lot

plus

jakk was the icing on the cake

their crew, along with ampchu and ncinema changed them fully

omniversal for basically every comic char which infected those series too, despite never having a display of that power

it was a shame

all that fiasco back there was a sad arc

literally denial and salt, for no reason
 

so was any of this accurate about Xenogears at all?

i dont have anything against Jakk, but it is funny how things turned out with...certain characters

Jakk himself was always pleasant to talk to, but yeah the Genis thing is now infamous
 
most of that is correct = multiversal+/low megaversal

they just ain't in the omniversal range, they hyped and spiced it up with an extra dose of headcanon, for no reason

why?

who knows

prob for whoever fan series is the stronger one, biggaversal time, lol
 
Pretty much. Though, I don't know where or how the fuck they got Omniversal from.
 
You telling me you never believed in Omniversal base Spiderman all this time?????? And you think you know a guy