He nuked Edo Japan with his Dark Matter, which I believe is city level or higher. And that was done casually, mind you. In terms of raw power, without Truth, I'd say the Earl takes it.(he should also take speed, unless I'm mistaken, as I'm pretty sure DGM just has better speed feats than FMA, reaching well into the hypersonic range, but maybe someone can correct me on that, as I don't really recall anything from the FMA series that's all that impressive speed-wise.)I haven't watched D-Grayman, where does the Millenium Earl scale at?
For match up purposes let's say the Philosopher's Stones work like Innocence and can exorcise Akuma and hurt the Earl.He nuked Edo Japan with his Dark Matter, which I believe is city level or higher. And that was done casually, mind you. In terms of raw power, without Truth, I'd say the Earl takes it.(he should also take speed, unless I'm mistaken, as I'm pretty sure DGM just has better speed feats than FMA, reaching well into the hypersonic range, but maybe someone can correct me on that, as I don't really recall anything from the FMA series that's all that impressive speed-wise.)
In round two, it goes even worse for FMA, as none of the homunculi or alchemists, sans maybe Pride, due to his nature, have a resistance against the kind of poison that Akuma have, which literally causes disintegration shortly after contact with flesh(this includes with fumes emitted from level 1's missile attacks), with the only thing known to purge it, for the most part, being Innocence, the power used by Exorcists, due to it being the direct counterpart and opposite of the Akuma's main power source of Dark Matter.
Now, I'm not going to go NLF and say that the alchemists and homunculi can't even destroy any of the Akuma, on account of them lacking Innocence, however, close combat would be a no-go, as any touch at all with an Akuma emitting even the slightest bit of Dark Matter, will end whoever destroys any of them, and there'd be a lot.(The Earl had so many in reserve, at one point, that a horde of them literally appeared as a huge black cloud over the horizon of a passing ship of exorcists. And this is ignoring how he can straight up fuse them into gigantic monster-Akuma with but a mental command, which wield much more destructive potential than said Akuma individually(and can also lead to the birth of a level 4, even when killed, if I'm not mistaken. and a level 4 is comfortably above Allen and Kanda combined, early in the series, who produced a town level feat with their combined attack, IIRC))
This is also not going into the unique hax abilities that level 2 and 3 Akuma have shown, as they don't really matter, and are kinda overkill. Dark Matter poison alone is enough to basically be a Kryptonite for the bulk of FMA, including most of the homunculi, though I suppose one could argue for their regenerative factor keeping them going for a while longer, but against the onslaught of Akuma, especially when shit like the level 3s and 4s are unleashed, who should also be faster than any of the homunculi, given they should reach well above supersonic territory, they'll be taken out eventually.
So, yeah, without Truth, Father and FMA are kinda boned, hard-core, in both rounds.
Still gets washed. At most, the homunculi are destroying level 2 Akuma. Level 3s and 4s will still be too much, due to upscaling from Allen and Kanda's town level feat. All this means, is they last way longer to their inevitable death, due to being immune to Akuma poison, in that scenario(Or resistant, I should say. Exorcists can very much still be infected by it, after all.)For match up purposes let's say the Philosopher's Stones work like Innocence and can exorcise Akuma and hurt the Earl.
I do think Father has a chance, remember the premise is they had prep time. Round 1 goes to the Earl, but I do think the Amestrian scientists and Military can find a way to bring him down in Round 2. It's not like the Earl has the Ark or any other Noah tech with him in this scenario.
Overall the match ups favour the Earl, but I'd be curious to see what the Amestrians would do.
Let's add a Round 3, 1vs1, but Father has Truth now.
They're both into HS range.I'm pretty sure DGM just has better speed feats than FMA, reaching well into the hypersonic range, but maybe someone can correct me on that, as I don't really recall anything from the FMA series that's all that impressive speed-wise.)
Which netted him island lvl stats.Father's only real feat while Truth is absorbed, before Hohenheim pulls the uno reverse card on him, is creating a mini-sun that fits in his regular-sized hand
With a portion of Truth absorbed you mean. He never actually eats the whole thing , just the aspect of it that sat inside Earth's Gate.With Truth absorbed, theoretically, he should be able to fuck with the universe itself, as Truth is one with all in the universe, but he never demonstrates this at all, in the very short time he has Truth's full power at his grasp, so his full stats in this state are kinda up in the air. Definitely above where he normally is, for sure, but to what extent? We don't know, and that makes defining him a tough call.
I did consider using that, but was uncertain about doing so, given the destruction/life-wipe sorta sounds like it may have been a chain-reaction, and since the feat itself, coming as a result of the Earl's battle with the Heart bearer, has never been shown directly on-panel, it makes the whole thing kinda iffy, at best.They're both into HS range.
FMA reaches into the double digits .
DGM should be MHS from Allen reacting point blank to an Akuma's machine gun fire but i've never seen that shit calced so it depends on how much a stickler do you wanna be for rules.
Which netted him island lvl stats.
With a portion of Truth absorbed you mean. He never actually eats the whole thing , just the aspect of it that sat inside Earth's Gate.
We see that he's alive and well in people for example so the notion that Father ate him whole is not correct and thus we can't attribute any of Truth's stats no matter what those may be. Just an arbitrary portion .
Now, something that peeps are missing for the second scenario.
Father can shit out PS whenever he wants. It's pretty much an instantaneous thing too and since he's working together with the other Homunculi and the State Alchemists, this means that the other Homunculi don't die unless Father wants them to and this also means that all State Alchemists gets Town lvl stats from the PS bonus scaling from Kimblee . Of course, this goes until Father himself runs out which should take a while cause he has 500K souls if he's in his first and second forms.
And finally, all of the shit above, mine or the others doesn't really matter if you want to give the Earl the accolade of being somewhat of a peer to the Heart which apparently is capable of world destruction/ life wipe.
Don't care enough to argue either way.
Not what Road implies and it doesn't matter anyway. Two niggas duking it out and killing the world in the process are > a City to island lvl verse by default really.I did consider using that, but was uncertain about doing so, given the destruction/life-wipe sorta sounds like it may have been a chain-reaction,
This is true.has never been showing directly on-panel, it makes the whole thing kinda iffy, at best.
Not by me. If others want to , great.l(any chance I could be shown the calc that gives it that?).
True, but with the recent reveals from the manga, it might not have even been the Earl and the Heart bearer themselves who caused the end of the world directly, and I think you know what I'm talking about.Not what Road implies and it doesn't matter anyway. Two niggas duking it out and killing the world in the process are > a City to island lvl verse by default really.
This is true.
Not by me. If others want to , great.
It's on the other forum (if Poatato man didn't nuke it ) . IIRC Iwan did it. Not gonna fish for it.
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