Transformers feats/discussion

[OtherGalaxy]

It dosen't vary. It has the same power source. The Angolmois Energy is the power of the Matrix and Unicron's Angolmois Energy is a counteract to it. It does depend on who actually can utilize Angolmois Energy better. Volcanicus honestly can utilize Angolmois better than Star Convoy since Star Convoy needs to upgrade himself with Angolmois Energy to fight dudes stronger than him

heck Cloud stories don't inherently say "this guy is fighting Cloud Megatron blah blah blah", the narrative states that Angolmois Energy itself can affect Cloud decepticons

What difference does it really make though? Volcanicus at no point even threatens a single universe nor does Hun-Grr who was consuming Angolmois Energy in the manga as well. Same source of power=/=you scale to the entirety of something, we've been over this with the Matrix in the past

It does depend on who actually can utilize Angolmois Energy better.

Actually you seem to more or less agree with what I'm saying here anyways. If the power/tiering/output/etc is determined by how well they can use Angolmois, then just having access to Angolmois wouldn't be enough of a reason to provide a character with a specific tiering/scaling.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

What difference does it really make though? Volcanicus at no point even threatens a single universe nor does Hun-Grr who was consuming Angolmois Energy in the manga as well. Same source of power=/=you scale to the entirety of something, we've been over this with the Matrix in the past

I mean he has that Angolmois Blade and he did sliced Neo Primus who is stronger than > Oracle/Primus. Ultra Megatron is lowk top tier of JPG1 honestly.

Actually you seem to more or less agree with what I'm saying here anyways. If the power/tiering/output/etc is determined by how well they can use Angolmois, then just having access to Angolmois wouldn't be enough of a reason to provide a character with a specific tiering/scaling.

I mean even though if users do utilize it differently, Angolmois scales the same since it comes from the same power source. Not a different one

 

[Thirteen prime]

By the way, about The Vok/Spectrum, these are creatures that are the shadow of light, the matrix, semi-material, and their goal is to destroy the entire universe/multiverse and recreate everything that exists anew.

All the power of all the matrix was used on them to erase them from existence, which is why all the universes became one whole, in essence this is also a warp of reality/space and time and a multiversal force.
But as it turns out, not only did it not kill them, but they also evolved into a new higher form called The Vok, in fact, they can return from the so-called higher planes and evolve in this way.

It is directly confirmed that Angolmois energy is the matrix force that Primacron extracted from its essence to create the divine universal energy of Angolmois.

 

[Thirteen prime]

@OtherGalaxy @Optimus Prime 654 @grillmaster

 

[OtherGalaxy]

tbh it didnt really succeed at getting rid of the Specters

pretty funny for us to have a third irreconcilable Vok origin though lol