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[OtherGalaxy]

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Age Of The Primes Leader Megatronus The Fallen Behind The Scenes

Via his Instagram, Hasbro Transformers designer Mark Maher has now shared a behind the scenes post of the newly-revealed Age Of The Primes Leader Megatronus The Fallen! "No one summons…MEGATRONUS! Yes! 🤯The Fallen shall RISE again!! Kicking off a collection I’ve had fever dreams about for many...

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so at least according to Mark Maher The Fallen is the most powerful of the 13

 

[grillmaster]

Worked on this lovely leader with the one and only Yuya san who sets the bar higher then the purple griffin fortress can fly.

the real takeaway

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

based on Balancing Act yet, he directly says Unicron doesn't notice him when he tries to get involved


You do have to account for when the comic was written and the way Singularity characters were handled changing over time though. They weren't really even supposed to have avatar bodies that was sort of a running change

ic thx

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

also even



Grillmaster beat me to it and said it better than I could (these manga have way too much going on and I forget the finer points constantly lol), but yes Cloud does directly state Unicron is connected to every dimension and the manga says this as well.

The only thing I would question is, based on Grill's assessment of the timeline, Unicron's multiverse crunching (granted, it was gradual) happened later in the timeline right? So not 100% sure if it would be scalable to the earlier Silver Matrix feat

I may just be being too pedantic I just like to really thoroughly evaluate something before slapping a crazy tier to it, I'm all for Transformers being tiered high as hell, it's a very underrated series in VS, I just reaaally like to know there's no holes in it prior.

ic ok

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

based on Balancing Act yet, he directly says Unicron doesn't notice him when he tries to get involved


You do have to account for when the comic was written and the way Singularity characters were handled changing over time though. They weren't really even supposed to have avatar bodies that was sort of a running change

wait can you show me that balancing act page on where it was stated Unicron dosen't notice vector?

 

[Thirteen prime]

the Fallen's energy beams have the statement below of being able to melt 10 miles below the surface of earth and heat it to temprature of the surface of the sun.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

the Fallen's energy beams have the statement below of being able to melt 10 miles below the surface of earth and heat it to temprature of the surface of the sun.
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you are also noticing the fallen carrying infinite energy and the power of the big bang

 

[Thirteen prime]

 

[Kighter]

The warship Thanatos has Starblitz Torpedoes capable of destroying Cybertron

I didn't really understand how Thunderwings was defeated the first time.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

wait can you show me that balancing act page on where it was stated Unicron dosen't notice vector?

@OtherGalaxy

 

[grillmaster]

So using Inverse Square Law for this

Consulting The Elder Gods ChaosTheory's DBZ Calcs for how he got Cells Solar System Kamehameha value

Spoiler: SHEEAAAGH

Cybertron is Saturn sized in the original comics so I'll basically just use Saturn for all this lol
Saturn's diameter: 120,500 km
Saturns Cross-Sectional area: 11,404,177,682,071,799 square meters, or 4,403,177,619.4 square miles (or C-S)
Saturns GBE: 2.2223e35 J
An Omnidirectional explosion 47 billion miles in radius has a surface area of: 2.78315E+22 mi^2 (R)

R/C-S = 2.78315E+22/4,403,177,619.4 = 6,320,776,131,622.978

6,320,776,131,622.978 * 2.2223e35 J = 1.4046660797305743e+48 J

1.4046660797305743e+48 J, 14,046.6607973057 Foe, or 14 Kilofoe.

God fucking Dammit Furman

ok so, i went back to this because it was picking at me

solar cycle could mean "day" so two days (i might have been confusing it with stellar cycle but... i still am not sure of the difference)

this would make the distance 128,934,823.87726 miles
this radius would have a surface area of 208,905,717,727,677,800 square miles
208,905,717,727,677,800/4,403,177,619.4 = 47,444,308.584613584
47,444,308.584613584 * 2.2223e+35 J = 1.0543548696758677e+43 J
2,519,968,617.7721786 yottatons, or 2,519.9686177722 tenatons/quettatons/whatever we call this now (18.5 x star level using our sun as an example)


note that this is the low end, assuming this is an outright explosion destroying the planet and not an entire sphere of antimatter (as the implication was that megatron avoids using his black hole powers because hed just start constantly emitting a wall of antimatter that would consume everything)

in which case idk itd be a multiple AU sized ball of antimatter consuming everything and i dont think i can actually quantify that properly as not all of that antimatter would be exploding at once

also a low end cause obviously its assuming cybertron is the same durability as saturn

 

[Thirteen prime]

Я не совсем понял, как Тандервингс был побеждён в первый раз.

На самом деле он не был побеждён, планета буквально поглотила его, сделав его форму инертной.

 

[Kighter]

ok so, i went back to this because it was picking at me

solar cycle could mean "day" so two days (i might have been confusing it with stellar cycle but... i still am not sure of the difference)

this would make the distance 128,934,823.87726 miles
this radius would have a surface area of 208,905,717,727,677,800 square miles
208,905,717,727,677,800/4,403,177,619.4 = 47,444,308.584613584
47,444,308.584613584 * 2.2223e+35 J = 1.0543548696758677e+43 J
2,519,968,617.7721786 yottatons, or 2,519.9686177722 tenatons/quettatons/whatever we call this now (18.5 x star level using our sun as an example)


note that this is the low end, assuming this is an outright explosion destroying the planet and not an entire sphere of antimatter (as the implication was that megatron avoids using his black hole powers because hed just start constantly emitting a wall of antimatter that would consume everything)

in which case idk itd be a multiple AU sized ball of antimatter consuming everything and i dont think i can actually quantify that properly as not all of that antimatter would be exploding at once

also a low end cause obviously its assuming cybertron is the same durability as saturn

I think we should consider the physical strength of Cybertron itself
The metals of which it is made are much stronger than the materials of Earth

 

[grillmaster]

definitely, but the thing is we are not given any info on by how much, thus itd be too hypothetical to be useful

 

[Kighter]

На самом деле он не был побеждён, планета буквально поглотила его, сделав его форму инертной.

Why would Cybertron itself devour him? That's what I'm most confused about
the power of Primus? but IDW2005 Cybertron it's not Primus

 

[grillmaster]

im sure theres context that we've forgotten cause we'd have to go reread stormbringer

 

[Kighter]

some UK Bios

 

[Thirteen prime]

Телемост — это устройство, которое бросает вызов законам физики, перемещая материю во времени и пространстве.

 

[Kighter]

Телемост — это устройство, которое бросает вызов законам физики, перемещая материю во времени и пространстве.View attachment 2919

This also happens in DTOM movie.