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OH YEAH SPEAKING OF ALIGNED
The Thirteen there are the same being as the ones we see in the Convenant of Primus and Exiles novelization.he claimed to be empowered to some degree but we have no clue how strong the RID thirteen are
i will say, he does have one potential implied planetary feat
that being his plan to fuse the anti spark and the allspark would have destroyed both earth and cybertron, and he didnt seem like he had a deathwish, so i guess he would have just tanked it
huh, really interesting! do you happen to have the original post? I wonder if they’ll ever revisit this idea in the future@OtherGalaxy @grillmaster Yo I just found out the 13th prime for AOTP WASN'T originally Star Convoy. According to the designers, Mark planned for a Voyagar Class for the 13th whos name was "The Arisen". Here, they implied The Arisen was a seperate character from Optimus and Star Convoy was originally gonna be a Haslab. However due to Haslab Omega Prime blocking the way and production issues, they made Star Convoy a mainline figure, giving the name "Star Optimus Prime" and he will be the one guiding all the primes for this toyline.
So they did planned to make an "The Arisen" figure which likely was taking design inspiration from the 13th Prime picture we see from the Convenant of Primus, but more G1 styled. Idk what was his artifact though. Could be the Matrix of Leadership repacked from Prima
According to BBJazz from TFW2005, he asked the designers about this in Megacon ever since February and this was what the designers stated:huh, really interesting! do you happen to have the original post?
Mark wanted to do the Arisen as a Voyager separate from Optimus Prime, at least it was discussed. They're considering doing Zeta at some point in SS.
I don't think they will ever revisit this since they have outright depicted Star Optimus as the 13th. Atleast it is not an ordinary Optimus like what the dumbass Aligned continuity did and plus Star Optimus does serve a purpose to be the 13th for this lineup. We also know Age of the Primes is a two year lineup and we got the listings alr, so idk if they were gonna do "The Arisen" figure and makes no sense since Star Optimus is alr depicted as The Arisen. Still, I'm interested to see what was The Arisen's robot modeI wonder if they’ll ever revisit this idea in the future
The argument is that while the silver matrix could have united all 7 universes of the old multiverse including probably all their timelines, it is also the case that the big bang subsequently planted the G1 world which is essentially a multiverse by some evidence.
3. Golden matrixThe situation here is approximately the same, considering that in essence this is also what created this world and subsequently showed a certain range.
In fact, because of the first point, I think that Megatron's words about him being able to unite all universes, timelines and the multiverse into one seem more like the truth, considering what the single silver matrix and its empty shell are capable of.
it's stated to be between two atoms in one of the issue intros in Rom & Micronauts and in that comic you see both Rom and Axiom shrink out of existence when they get bfr'd into Microspace@Thirteen prime @OtherGalaxy where was it stated Microspace from IDW is a small universe
alr thxit's stated to be between two atoms in one of the issue intros in Rom & Micronauts and in that comic you see both Rom and Axiom shrink out of existence when they get bfr'd into Microspace
also @OtherGalaxyAccording to BBJazz from TFW2005, he asked the designers about this in Megacon ever since February and this was what the designers stated:
I don't think they will ever revisit this since they have outright depicted Star Optimus as the 13th. Atleast it is not an ordinary Optimus like what the dumbass Aligned continuity did and plus Star Optimus does serve a purpose to be the 13th for this lineup. We also know Age of the Primes is a two year lineup and we got the listings alr, so idk if they were gonna do "The Arisen" figure and makes no sense since Star Optimus is alr depicted as The Arisen. Still, I'm interested to see what was The Arisen's robot mode
They are Multiversal+ since the G1 World acts as a multiverse that is connected with the larger flow of time which births infinite possibilities, realities and alternate timelines soooo. I disagree on the Gold Matrix part since Megatron was referring to the universes of the Precursor World. Angolmois Energy interestingly scales to the Cloud World Autobots and Decepticons soooooo@OtherGalaxy @grillmaster
Guys, I thought a little today about the Multiversal level for Star convoy and Megatron, I think I can give some evidence that they are probably even higher than this.
1. The Big Bang that recreated the G1 world.
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2. Angolmois energy.
3. Golden matrix
I'm not really sure about this scaling myself, but I want to ask your opinion on this matter.
It dosen't vary. It has the same power source. The Angolmois Energy is the power of the Matrix and Unicron's Angolmois Energy is a counteract to it. It does depend on who actually can utilize Angolmois Energy better. Volcanicus honestly can utilize Angolmois better than Star Convoy since Star Convoy needs to upgrade himself with Angolmois Energy to fight dudes stronger than himi dont know that angolmois energy on its own gives any kind of tiering similar to the Matrix, what people can actually do with it seems to vary
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