i just noticed this my bad, but to be fair if i recall right, the energy requirements for continent level and moon level are similarthis is the first time I have ever seen moon level for IDW guys, I wonder where they got that from?
I think due to the fact that Tharn broke through a panic bubble that is capable of withstanding an antimatter explosion capable of destroying half the planet, and due to the fact that with full weapons he was able to somewhat stop Thunderwing.this is the first time I have ever seen moon level for IDW guys, I wonder where they got that from?
i would actually disagree, with the fact that the panic bubble wasn't a normal forcefield; it wasn't meant to stop Tarn getting in, it was meant to stop him getting out. I think a better example would be, as I mentioned before, Killmaster is said to have a gun that can blow up moons, and the energy to destroy moons is somewhere around the range of continent level, or at least the energy to completely life wipe a planet.I think due to the fact that Tharn broke through a panic bubble that is capable of withstanding an antimatter explosion capable of destroying half the planet, and due to the fact that with full weapons he was able to somewhat stop Thunderwing.
Also, last notable feat in the series that I can recall, when the Decepticons open the Plasma Energy Chamber, its energies disable the Autobots by overloading them, and it threatens to cause the Sun to go nova (which is kind of terrifying, considering the sun shouldnt be anywhere near large enough to go supernova)
To save the Autobots, the Earth, the Solar System, and potentially the universe, (as its implied that the Plasma Energy could just keep going out into space after destroying the sun, with the Autobots having no idea how far the reaction will carry) Spike and the Nebulans use the planetary engines Galvatron built into Cybertron to absorb all of the Plasma Energy, rerouting ALL OF THAT POWER directly into Vector Sigma, reenergizing Cybertron and beginning a new Golden Age.
I'd honestly consider it a decent durability feat for the Autobots that they all didnt immediately melt from such energy, however it still overloaded them of course, as for the energy causing the sun to go nova, i havent yet decided, but said energy being absorbed by Cybertron itself is a pretty good durability feat for the planet, at the very least
Theres possibly others before this but i remembered this one first as it was the series finale
Lol this actually reminds me in the cartoon Megs and Starscream somehow survive actual Absolute Zero, and i don't even know how to quantify that kind of featOptimus and Hardhead are able to be on the surface of a gas giant whose temperature is only slightly above absolute zero, this is all due to the ore that absorbs all the thermal energy of the planet.
I will say if you look closely you can see megatron fall out of his fist when he punches that titanMegatron survived the clenching of Metroplex's fist, and at the same time, the same fist was struck by another Titan against him.View attachment 1168View attachment 1169View attachment 1170
most transformers including the main players were capable of killing ammonites which at that time were moving faster than the speed of lightView attachment 1171View attachment 1172View attachment 1173
Optimus and Megatron were able to withstand two shots from a shockwave reinforced by all regenesis ores, while the basic shockwave easily penetrated the armor of Megatron's bomber, and also knocked out Ultra Magnus with one shot.View attachment 1174View attachment 1175View attachment 1176View attachment 1177
either that or base comics starscream is supernova level for having survived that energy when stars explodeThis combined with the Unicron feat from the comics, means I think for now as an assumption its safe to put the upper tiers of the G1 cartoon and comics at star - large star level
Could be revised later, but all the super high tiers seem to be around this point at least, with the Underbase making stars go supernova by passing through, and Unicron being able to consume stars, with the Matrix being able to destroy him completely, alongside the Plasma Energy Chamber unleashing enough power to cause the sun to go nova as well
I dont know if any specific characters scale this high, save for potentially powermaster optimus, but thats a big potentially considering the state it left him in. But, considering there are still characters stronger than him, I dare say I think it's possible
potential contenders imo are:
Galvatron (possibly, at least in his prime, considering how much stronger he could be than Optimus), Starscream (having absorbed the power of the Underbase, meant that he had to be able to survive it in the first place, although said power still eventually destroyed him as well)
its a pretty short list, but i would expect it to be
Edit: As i said a few pages back, i wish i could find the energy requirements to disrupt the the equilibrium of fusion within a star, as i think that could potentially provide a lower end to the Underbase's star busting feats, as well as maybe just be useful in general
If we knew the energy to spike fusion within the core of a star and cause it to blow itself apart that would serve as a good alternative to the idea that the Underbase must be casually emitting supernova levels of energy every second or something
this is i think the scene othergalaxy was referring to with shockwave, i wonder if its possible to calc it from the size of the planets and the pylonMost importantly, Shockwave survived its own singularity, which essentially absorbed all the resources of the universe to endlessly feed Cybertron.View attachment 1178View attachment 1179
Shockwave was able to destroy the pylons, structures that are large enough to be noticeable even compared to cyber planets.View attachment 1180View attachment 1181View attachment 1182View attachment 1183
Ultra Magnus and Galvatron are able to withstand a shot from warworld - these are huge ships the size of a planet and are capable of destroying planets (cybertron is larger than a planet in our solar system so this does not apply to it).View attachment 1184View attachment 1185View attachment 1186