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I think Mazinger’s already was since Shin Mazinger Zero had a lot of multiversal stuff in it, this is just interesting because it’s the first time dreams are really delved into in Transformers.
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thugshakinglunatic
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Has any G.I Joe character done some crazy shit in a tf crossover
the tom scioli tf vs gi joe series is pretty much an entire comic of crazy shit happening. I think Snake Eyes blows up Starscream's eye with some grenades in like issue #1. Best comic ever
Has any G.I Joe character done some crazy shit in a tf crossover
Not that this was 100% needed, but Singularity Ablyss and the Tree of Life actually do appear again, in the Beast Wars Uprising text stories. I haven't had time to go through them as they're quite long, but relevant parts come from page 51 of Cultural Appropriation
This doesn't reveal any particularly new info, but it does confirm the book is canon even with the "out of continuity" disclaimer (which just means "not part of a main timeline" anyways) but Ablyss is namedropped by the Oracle (an aspect of Primus). It doesn't help us square it with any other cosmology bits unfortunately (like where does Infraspace fit in for example, it seemingly would fit one of the later Spheres that were also Pure Information, but no clarification is given). The fact it came back at all after two decades of being ignored makes me happy though.
This doesn't reveal any particularly new info, but it does confirm the book is canon even with the "out of continuity" disclaimer (which just means "not part of a main timeline" anyways) but Ablyss is namedropped by the Oracle (an aspect of Primus). It doesn't help us square it with any other cosmology bits unfortunately (like where does Infraspace fit in for example, it seemingly would fit one of the later Spheres that were also Pure Information, but no clarification is given). The fact it came back at all after two decades of being ignored makes me happy though.
TheDoctor12th
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Even ignore crossover with transformer or in Super Robot Wars, Mazinger Z's infinity multiverse had been mentioned multiple times in "Shin Mazinger Zero vs Great General of Darkness", "Mazinger Z: Infinity" and "Mazinger Infinitism" series novel. (In fact, there are even mentioning of "multiverses" in "Mazinger Infinitism" series novel. Although based on the contextual information I have doubts as to whether the author actually meant to express plural multiverses)
thugshakinglunatic
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thugshakinglunatic
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is the unicron singularity black hole thingy from galaxy force the same 50% unicron singularity in other continuities?
the black hole and Unicron the singularity are two different things with the same name that makes them confusing to talk about, that's why I generally use the japanese name "Grand Black Hole" because it makes it easier to understand
The Grand Black Hole/Unicron Singularity is the black hole that Unicron collapsed into after Primus trapped him in a sun/his half dead form got blown up in the Energon comics. It started tearing apart spacetime and was going to destroy every parallel version of Cybertron and every parallel universe until Primus' avatar shut it down with one of his Omega Locks.
Unicron the Singularity is the character we see across countless stories who are all just the same guy appearing in different universes. Strength fluctuates wildly as it does with all multiversal singularity characters, but also because if you follow Unicron's storyline from Marvel G1, to Omega Point, to Universe, to Unicron Trilogy he's basically running on fumes doing increasingly ridiculous plans to get back in shape which always backfire horribly (because if he wins everybody dies).
50% Unicron is just what I call the version who fought Primus before/at the birth of the multiverse. You could also call it "True form" or "Energy Form", it's the form he had before Primus tricked him into getting stuck in physical bodies. I call it 50% because Primus was split off from Unicron, so he should be operating at a lower level than "100%" which is when he devoured the old realities and their gods/his siblings. But it's an important distinguisher because as Primus is (the lesser) half of him, he loses a considerable amount of whatever power he had even then.
The Grand Black Hole/Unicron Singularity is the black hole that Unicron collapsed into after Primus trapped him in a sun/his half dead form got blown up in the Energon comics. It started tearing apart spacetime and was going to destroy every parallel version of Cybertron and every parallel universe until Primus' avatar shut it down with one of his Omega Locks.
Unicron the Singularity is the character we see across countless stories who are all just the same guy appearing in different universes. Strength fluctuates wildly as it does with all multiversal singularity characters, but also because if you follow Unicron's storyline from Marvel G1, to Omega Point, to Universe, to Unicron Trilogy he's basically running on fumes doing increasingly ridiculous plans to get back in shape which always backfire horribly (because if he wins everybody dies).
50% Unicron is just what I call the version who fought Primus before/at the birth of the multiverse. You could also call it "True form" or "Energy Form", it's the form he had before Primus tricked him into getting stuck in physical bodies. I call it 50% because Primus was split off from Unicron, so he should be operating at a lower level than "100%" which is when he devoured the old realities and their gods/his siblings. But it's an important distinguisher because as Primus is (the lesser) half of him, he loses a considerable amount of whatever power he had even then.
thugshakinglunatic
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Thank you!
I forgot the Transtech also call it the “Unicron Phenomenon” so that could also be a term to distinguish it from the black hole. It just doesn’t help at all that Multiversal Singularities are a thing intrinsically related to the character but so is the word used in relation to black holes lol
Doronbo_Shirake
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Sky-Bite is by far the best character in RiD. Really fun show, but he outshone everyone
Doronbo_Shirake
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I watched it as a kid, so my memory isn't fresh, but the jokes worked well even then that I can remember that as a highlight. Scourge>>>>>>>>>any version of Nemesis Prime too. Way better and more original character. He's half woman half truck and half Optimus Prime. You just can't get that kind of storytelling anywhere else.
Doronbo_Shirake
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Yes, the jokes are good. Much better than the ones from Mon Colle Knights. I guess Michael Sorich didn't directed the dub of Robots in Disguise.
thugshakinglunatic
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wattafack. If razorclaw KILLED his realities' unicron didnt he also tank the shockwaves directly?
He didn't kill Unicron, it says he killed his reality's Megatron., then Unicron made him his herald. You might be able to get him to galaxy~ based on Vector Prime hyping him up as one of the strongest Heralds he has trouble with though.
Also, he's still alive! lmao. Him and Ramjet are still running around just fine
Also, he's still alive! lmao. Him and Ramjet are still running around just fine
thugshakinglunatic
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ye but if a universes unicron dies doesnt it release shockwaves that r felt around the omniverse or somethingHe didn't kill Unicron, it says he killed his reality's Megatron., then Unicron made him his herald. You might be able to get him to galaxy~ based on Vector Prime hyping him up as one of the strongest Heralds he has trouble with though.
Also, he's still alive! lmao. Him and Ramjet are still running around just fine
That happened specifically with the Unicron Singularity and never before or again for no explained reason (other than that arguably Unicron hadn’t actually “died” until then maybe?) but also the text you posted doesn’t say Unicron died to begin with.