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Transformers feats/discussion

The Black Zarak's massive cannon can destroy the stratosphere.

By empowering himself with Chokon power, God Ginrai was able to destroy this huge weapon.

Grand Maximus takes one of these shots which knocks him back to the ground.

God Ginrai, being further than even the moon, was able to cover this distance in a very short period of time.
 
Black Zarak, through gravity manipulation, was able to create a huge black hole that swallows hundreds and probably thousands of stars, and the stars were grains of sand compared to this black hole.

Apparently when God Ginrai destroyed that black hole (plus he and Maximus survived the explosion) they also absorbed all the energy from that explosion.
 
In the same episode, Overlord and Black Zarak were able to withstand a similar attack from Ginrai without damage.

Two types of energy out of three are essentially known as Angolmois energy and Zodiac, that is, the level of the universe and a bunch of Hax?
 
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Speed:

Optimus Prime displays agility and reflexes that are astounding for such an advanced being: he spins 180 degrees in mid-air, disappears into a cavity, and all of Starscream's nearly simultaneous shots and the missiles fired by the Decepticon alien ship completely miss Optimus:

"In a display of agility and reflexes that are astounding even for such an advanced being, Optimus spins 180 degrees in mid-air and disappears into a cavity. Instead of blowing his bipedal body to pieces, Starscream's nearly simultaneous shots and the missiles fired by the alien ship miss him. Instead, they rain down hundreds of tons of rock." - Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday

It is noteworthy that the alt mod of Starscream is an F-22, which is armed with air-to-air, air-to-ground missiles that have a speed of Mach 4.

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Optimus moves at a speed so unexpected that Starscream's instruments couldn't predict it, and closes the gap before Starscream can react:

"It wasn't much of a revelation, but it was enough. With a speed so unexpected that Starscream's instruments couldn't predict it, Optimus closed the gap between them before the Decepticon could react." - Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday.

Starscream has enough speed to match an Earth F-22 Raptor.

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OtherGalaxy said:
zodiac is 100% universe level

angolmois I think varies, but it has insane potential depending on who uses it

AVP stated once that Angolmois comes from The One, but im not sure how well it squares with other lore
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I was thinking that Zodiac could be a multiverse level? Since it created the entire G1 world which in some cases is also a multiverse?
 
personally i would go with the fact that the zodiac was the power that created the universe yet still has more power to empower star convoy (that and wasnt it the silver matrix/star power could actually create universes plural
 
grillmaster said:
personally i would go with the fact that the zodiac was the power that created the universe yet still has more power to empower star convoy (that and wasnt it the silver matrix/star power could actually create universes plural
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This is true, although the Zodiac has greater power than the power that created the universe, and at the same time the Zodiac in some cases is just a fragment of the silver matrix.
 
Do you know anything about Japanese? Japanese texts seem to turn a street into a scorched earth in a flash, but English turns into a city.
 

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copying the japanese text from google translate and throwing it into chat gpt

"Baldiagas, as the name of a combat specialist suggests, utilizes two types of combined formations: flight missions specialized in aerial combat and land missions adept at ground warfare, to respond to any combat situation. The dual combined weapon, Balbuster, concentrates the firepower of all Combatron members and has the destructive power to turn an entire city to ashes in an instant. His favorite food is coffee milk, which serves as the primary source of motivation for his combat energy."
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速度：

擎天柱展现出了如此先进生物所具有的惊人敏捷性和反应能力：他在半空中旋转 180 度，消失在一个洞穴中，而红蜘蛛几乎同时发射的所有射击和霸天虎外星飞船发射的导弹都完全没有击中擎天柱：

"In a display of agility and reflexes that are astounding even for such an advanced being, Optimus spins 180 degrees in mid-air and disappears into a cavity. Instead of blowing his bipedal body to pieces, Starscream's nearly simultaneous shots and the missiles fired by the alien ship miss him. Instead, they rain down hundreds of tons of rock." - Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday

值得注意的是，“红蜘蛛”的替代型号是F-22，装备有速度为4马赫的空对空、空对地导弹。

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擎天柱的移动速度出乎意料地快到红蜘蛛的仪器都无法预测，并在红蜘蛛做出反应之前缩小了差距：

"It wasn't much of a revelation, but it was enough. With a speed so unexpected that Starscream's instruments couldn't predict it, Optimus closed the gap between them before the Decepticon could react." - Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday.

红蜘蛛的速度足以匹敌地球上的 F-22 猛禽。
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Can you cut the text a little bit shorter, if you can
 
Sorry, I've been kinda busy lately so haven't really had the time to lurk in this thread. If there are any major updates to the cosmology / overall powerscaling, please give me a TLDR version or link me to the specific posts.
 
Arcee said:
Sorry, I've been kinda busy lately so haven't really had the time to lurk in this thread. If there are any major updates to the cosmology / overall powerscaling, please give me a TLDR version or link me to the specific posts.
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I dont think anything has changed since the discovery of the Singularity Ablyss stuff, for the forseeable future that will probably be Transformers’ best scaling. The OP of this thread should still be up to date regarding the general cosmology breakdown.

The only other thing notable is that Furman’s Cybertron pitch that got scrapped is probably usable as a G1 episode that was never made and is only known from a blog summary by a g1 writer was still considered canon. Same thing with the early 86 movie script that was rejected, so the information in Furman’s pitch is most likely fair to use re: destabilized the omniverse and “countless dimensions” statements. I havent added this context to the Furman pitch from the OP yet

Though tbh Primeval Dawn already had the Vok saying Unicron’s agents were a virus on the omniversal structure, so omniversal Unicron was technically always a valid viewpoint
 
oh there are some vague things implying singularities still exist post-shroud but im waiting on something more solid. But it does seem like Legacy’s plot just ignores the shroud entirely, from what little info we have from the toy bios and designer statements
 
Hhujkkhb said:
Can you please tell me Optimus's TFP lvl?
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unfortunately it’s been ages since I watched Prime, but iirc the best feat is him tanking the laser that was going to melt the ice caps. It was calced at city level yeeeears ago but I don’t have the link now to know if it’s outdated. the star sabers also cut apart the Pyramids
 
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