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Transformers feats/discussion

Hmm1010 said:
@OtherGalaxy
Isn't IDW comics inconsistent in power levels?

1.) In the prequels set on Cybertron, Optimus and the others survived an explosion that left a giant crater in Cybertron (probably a continent level feat or more due to Cybertron's size).

2.) In the Furman run, OP could crack Sixshot's armor that was made from materials from a collapses star or something (IDK what level that would be). Furthermore, I believe there was something about Thunderwing damaging Cybertron's surface. And Optimus damaged his armor. So, he should at least downscale from Thunderwing (I could be misremembering the Thunderwing stuff).

3.) In All Hail Megatron, Megatron thought a human nuke en route to destroy New York would kill Optimus. Also, I don't think Thundercracker necessarily scales to the nuke as we don't know how far he was from the detonation when he shot it.

4.) In the Costa run, both Autobots and Decepticons that included Optimus, Razorclaw (who could go toe to toe with Optimus) etc. thought wouldn't survive a nuclear assault from Russia.

In another issue from the same run, Megatron's Stealth Bomber body was hurt by a falling satelitte that was said to have hit with more power than a tactical nuke (since tactical nukes usually have low nuclear yields, its probably implying that the Kinetic Harpoon would be weaker than high yield nukes). Optimus couldn't damage Stealth Bomber Megatron at all besides cracking his window glass. I am aware Stealth Bomber Megatron can easily blow up a city with his cannon, but I am talking about his durability.

I haven't read past this though.
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its hella inconsistent, I generally grade it by Roberts/Barber era since they wrote like half the run and that’s where things like Phase Sixers got more fleshed out, where Rom and Kup’s “flew through the sun” statements come from, etc

Costa’s run has the worst feats by far and Furman was definitely trying to keep it grounded in the beginning
 
Hmm1010 said:
@OtherGalaxy
Isn't IDW comics inconsistent in power levels?

1.) In the prequels set on Cybertron, Optimus and the others survived an explosion that left a giant crater in Cybertron (probably a continent level feat or more due to Cybertron's size).

2.) In the Furman run, OP could crack Sixshot's armor that was made from materials from a collapses star or something (IDK what level that would be). Furthermore, I believe there was something about Thunderwing damaging Cybertron's surface. And Optimus damaged his armor. So, he should at least downscale from Thunderwing (I could be misremembering the Thunderwing stuff).

3.) In All Hail Megatron, Megatron thought a human nuke en route to destroy New York would kill Optimus. Also, I don't think Thundercracker necessarily scales to the nuke as we don't know how far he was from the detonation when he shot it.

4.) In the Costa run, both Autobots and Decepticons that included Optimus, Razorclaw (who could go toe to toe with Optimus) etc. thought wouldn't survive a nuclear assault from Russia.

In another issue from the same run, Megatron's Stealth Bomber body was hurt by a falling satelitte that was said to have hit with more power than a tactical nuke (since tactical nukes usually have low nuclear yields, its probably implying that the Kinetic Harpoon would be weaker than high yield nukes). Optimus couldn't damage Stealth Bomber Megatron at all besides cracking his window glass. I am aware Stealth Bomber Megatron can easily blow up a city with his cannon, but I am talking about his durability.

I haven't read past this though.
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In fact, in a massive explosion, the character cannot take all the damage anyway, unless hit by the center of the explosion.So the Mega-Toraxxis Refinery explosion isn't much of a reference, and even Bumblebee survived while thousands of innocent transformers died all around
 
D-Void aside I’m pretty sure Costa’s run has some of the lowest end showings for Transformers in any continuity, with Scrapper being grievously injured by a falling steel beam :giogio

It’s one of the only times I can think of where power levels actually negatively impacted the story, I hate his run so much lol. Its also just mostly really poorly written and by a guy who knew nothing about transformers and didn’t care to learn anything about it before taking the gig. Virgin Costa vs Chad Scioli etc etc
 
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The Transformers movie guide describes how Optimus mostly holds back his immense power to avoid causing collateral damage, which essentially explains why he lost to Megatron in the first movie.
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He still viewed killing himself to keep the Allspark from Megatron preferable so I don’t think he was actually capable of stopping him at that time
 


7:14 A Titan punches Quintesson Starscream and the size of the emerging dust cloud from it seems comparable to Cybertron's buildings.



With two Matrixes, Megatron and Optimus destroy Quintesson Starscream.



8:07 Megatron X (an alternate stronger version of Megatron) survives a barrage from Optimus's Matrix blast for some time, albeit Optimus manages to defeat him. Also, it is revealed in the Cybverse Perfect Decepticon episode that Megatron X eventually succumbed to his injuries.

I wonder how powerful that Titan punch that Starscream took shown in the first linked video is, since that scales to the Matrix power?
 
@OtherGalaxy That punch Starscream took is probably the best visual feat from the series.

1.) Sky-Byte and Jetfire's fight gradually destroys the ancient stadium. Timestamp: 8:00


Anti feat (timestamp: 9:00 of the above video): Optimus gets his leg injured by a relatively high fall. In other episodes, Autobots were scared of lava because they would melt.

Also, again in the video above, at 8:51, Sky-Byte digs deep enough to reach lava. And lava is kilometers deep into the Earth in real life. However, I think this scene seems to treat it like you can find lava not too deep from Earth, so the kilometers thing probably doesn't apply here.

2.) Megatron's firepower. Starscream gets blasted and dies. However, his body is intact. Timestamp: 9:00


You can compare the explosion with Nemesis' entrance at 5:30. I think it might be city block or maybe multi city block level or smth but idk.

3.) Grimlock's stomps shakes the surrounding area (he was inside that crevice and was shaking the surface near the crevice with his stomps).


Timestamp: 4:52
 
The Ark was able to sail from Lake Michigan to the outskirts of Knoxville, Tennessee, in one frame, and Sixshot caught up with it almost instantly, the distance between the two points being 600-650 kilometers.
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