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Optimus Prime 654 said:
wait can you show me that AvP quote where it says the realm is the same across all continuities?
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it's not a very direct quote, it's one where he confirms something that happened in one of the Aligned books was the same place or something

July 23, 2015​


Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Is the Realm of the Primes the same place where Optimus Prime met you after gathering all Blades of Time? And can you tell us more about this/those dimension(s)?
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A: Dear Prime Pal,

That is indeed where we met. You will be learn more about it on future episodes of Robots in Disguise.
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Can't really remember where I was going with this lol or why I brought it up in the CRT at all, it's been a while
 
probably somewhere city-mountain level at least for now

galvatrons uk bio said he could destroy a mountain range so that sounds like a sensible boost
 
grillmaster said:
probably somewhere city-mountain level at least for now

galvatrons uk bio said he could destroy a mountain range so that sounds like a sensible boost
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The destruction of a mountain range from what I remember is about the level of a country, by the way, about this, what about the durability of The Ark, which survived a fall from space, given its size and speed.
 
we dont know its speed or mass do we

could assume the typical speed of an asteroid
the ark is generally huge but i have no clue of its consistent size at least in marvel g1
 
grillmaster said:
we dont know its speed or mass do we

could assume the typical speed of an asteroid
the ark is generally huge but i have no clue of its consistent size at least in marvel g1
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The speed is quite easy to find, they were able to reach the earth in 5.7 minutes while in the asteroid belt, but you can use a low score since Cybertronian ships can fly at hyper-light speed, I'm not sure about the weight.
 
Optimus Prime 654 said:
@OtherGalaxy (gonna ask this one last time) Vector Prime across all universes is still the same being right? Going by Earth Wars and Legacy bio
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An easy way to look at it is that multiversal Singularity versions of Vector/the 13 still exist. There are, and have always been technically*, non-singularity versions, like for example the Transformers: One 13 are almost certainly not part of the aggregate, but basically Legacy and Earth Wars confirms what I call "Big Vector" is still around as opposed to "Small Vectors" that might crop up elsewhere.

*Aligned and IDW were doing non-singularity 13 years before the Shroud even existed. Just another reason why it was a pointless attempt at a retcon...the writers were already doing whatever they wanted. If they wanted a multiversal 13 they could use it, and if they didn't they were free to ignore it. Derrick J Wyatt was outspoken about the concept not being a part of Animated for example, waaaay before the Shroud was a thing.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
An easy way to look at it is that multiversal Singularity versions of Vector/the 13 still exist. There are, and have always been technically*, non-singularity versions, like for example the Transformers: One 13 are almost certainly not part of the aggregate, but basically Legacy and Earth Wars confirms what I call "Big Vector" is still around as opposed to "Small Vectors" that might crop up elsewhere.

*Aligned and IDW were doing non-singularity 13 years before the Shroud even existed. Just another reason why it was a pointless attempt at a retcon...the writers were already doing whatever they wanted. If they wanted a multiversal 13 they could use it, and if they didn't they were free to ignore it. Derrick J Wyatt was outspoken about the concept not being a part of Animated for example, waaaay before the Shroud was a thing.
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How are the IDW 13 non-singularity beings?
 
Optimus Prime 654 said:
How are the IDW 13 non-singularity beings?
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they are completely regular Transformers that demonstrate no multiversal aspects/existence or knowledge. They aren't even divinely created by Primus in that continuity since he's Rung, and they were also drawing a lot from Aligned which was explicitly not tied to Singularity lore at the time.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
they are completely regular Transformers that demonstrate no multiversal aspects/existence or knowledge. They aren't even divinely created by Primus in that continuity since he's Rung, and they were also drawing a lot from Aligned which was explicitly not tied to Singularity lore at the time.
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and how TF One thirteens are not part of the singularities?
 
its basically always been the case that there can be versions of the thirteen who are singularities and ones that arent at the same time


RID/Aligned Megatronus is not the same as G1 Fallen or Bayverse Fallen, the latter of the two can be part of the singularity but not even all of the versions of them are
 
grillmaster said:
its basically always been the case that there can be versions of the thirteen who are singularities and ones that arent at the same time


RID/Aligned Megatronus is not the same as G1 Fallen or Bayverse Fallen, the latter of the two can be part of the singularity but not even all of the versions of them are
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if you want to split hairs Aligned technically got absorbed by the Big 13 but it happened immediately before the Shroud so presumably they got cut back apart immediately after. So you can scale Covenant lore to the Big 13 at least.
 
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