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Optimus Prime 654 said:
@Thirteen prime @OtherGalaxy is TFWiki a reliable source? Since I see many TF scalers using it and they say the wiki has canon information in it
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it's a series of in-depth summaries written by passionate fans but it's not canon in any way aside from their full Ask Vector Prime transcripts.

Is it reliable? Yes, but it should never be used over the actual stories. As one example we were talking about a week ago, they don't have Alpha Trion listed as a member of the Multiversal 13, even though he's confirmed to be one when Vector talks about Trion's higher wave form unifying all Alpha Trions. Or how they have their own complex reasons for not considering Alignment canon, even though AVP officialized it.

It's an amazing resource we're extremely lucky to have, but what its users write isn't actually canon or published by hasbro/takara at the end of the day.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
it's a series of in-depth summaries written by passionate fans but it's not canon in any way aside from their full Ask Vector Prime transcripts.

Is it reliable? Yes, but it should never be used over the actual stories. As one example we were talking about a week ago, they don't have Alpha Trion listed as a member of the Multiversal 13, even though he's confirmed to be one when Vector talks about Trion's higher wave form unifying all Alpha Trions. Or how they have their own complex reasons for not considering Alignment canon, even though AVP officialized it.

It's an amazing resource we're extremely lucky to have, but what its users write isn't actually canon or published by hasbro/takara at the end of the day.
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When I was scrolling over Earth Wars, they said Vector Prime, Nova Prime and Alpha's tie-in story arc was a run-up for Age of the Primes which there are half chances there is a offical source saying it, but makes sense since there was a Legacy event going on in that game and plus in 2025 upcoming characters, the Armada characters are gonna be representations of their Legacy and Age of the Primes toys.
 
Optimus Prime 654 said:
When I was scrolling over Earth Wars, they said Vector Prime, Nova Prime and Alpha's tie-in story arc was a run-up for Age of the Primes which there are half chances there is a offical source saying it, but makes sense since there was a Legacy event going on in that game and plus in 2025 upcoming characters, the Armada characters are gonna be representations of their Legacy and Age of the Primes toys.
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I mean sure that makes sense but without any actual confirmation they're just speculating and even if it were absolutely true it doesn't really have any bearing on Earth Wars' story or lore, we can just take the story dialogue at face value
 
OtherGalaxy said:
I mean sure that makes sense but without any actual confirmation they're just speculating and even if it were absolutely true it doesn't really have any bearing on Earth Wars' story or lore, we can just take the story dialogue at face value
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Vector Prime was the final release before Legacy ended and makes sense tbh since we got like three members of the Thirteen in Legacy. Considering the fact the AOTP Vector at the pantheon before the figure's final release seems to be heavily styled after his Legacy toy. Also the Thirteen's stuff were added in Earth Wars ever since AOTP was announced iirc.
 
Optimus Prime 654 said:
@OtherGalaxy if Vector's story arc and 2024's year for Earth Wars was indeed a run up for AOTP, then ig now there are 14 members lmfao
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there could be more given the weird trion/solomus stuff either that or it's a direct confirmation of the multiple identities thing and therefore there might only be 13 but we'll never be able to figure out what the actual roster is lol
 
OtherGalaxy said:
there could be more given the weird trion/solomus stuff either that or it's a direct confirmation of the multiple identities thing and therefore there might only be 13 but we'll never be able to figure out what the actual roster is lol
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I think Star Optimus = Autonomus since both are The Arisen, but one is a Optimus reincarnation and one is basically the Last Autobot
 
OtherGalaxy said:
I don't remember Autonomous ever being confirmed as an/the Arisen, where'd you get that from?
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I mean from the looks of it, he is visually. Primus created him as the last autobot, he is the 13th and gave him a measure of his power. Autonomus iirc was set as the "chosen one" in issue 79 of US publishing iirc. He even revived Optimus as an Action Master
 
The Halo of Primus unites all the 12 primes' powers into one and the Thirteenth was whoever the Matrix is.
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The power itself was stated to create universes
89 & 90 Throne Of The Primes & Fallen Set
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89: PP-43 Cybertron King Throne Of The Primes
89 PP-43 サイバトロン 王 スローンオブザプライム


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89 サイバトロン / 王
スローン オブ ザ プライム

COMBAT POWER: ∞

MOTTO:
闇の時代であっても我々が自らの光を輝かせるのだ

STORY:
宇宙の彼岸、神無き時代に君臨する野獣王！輝く光は玉座に封じられし13体のプライムの力！宇宙創世に匹敵する力を持つその光は銀河を駆け巡り、今ここに新たな秩序が作られる！！


セプターオブスパークス
王冠
オプティマスプライマル
オプティマル・オプティマス
マトリクス
スローン・オプ ザ・プライム
ジェットモード
ゴリラモード



Translation
89 Cybertron / King
Throne Of The Primes

COMBAT POWER: ∞

MOTTO:
Even in times of darkness, we can shine our light.

STORY:
On the other side of the universe, in an age without gods, the King of the Beasts reigns! The power of the 13 Primes is sealed within his throne, which shines with their light! The power to create universes blazes across the galaxy, as a new order is being formed!


Scepter of Sparks
Crown
Optimus Primal
Optimal Optimus
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Optimus Prime 654 said:
@OtherGalaxy the Star Saber scales to the Time-vortex right?
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it already had statements of destroying the multiverse which is more or less the same scale the time vortex operates on. The only difference is the latter required more prep from Nova so the Saber's still "better" but they're in the same bracket I guess you could say
 
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