Unicron Respect Thread

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(art by Transformers legend Geoff Senior)

Overview
Unicron is a complex character to pin down the power and abilities of, perhaps the most difficult to accurately assess in this hobby as a whole. The goal of this thread is to provide a comprehensive breakdown of Unicron's scope, abilities, and general scaling, while also providing the crucial context behind his various forms and seemingly inexplicable and often contradictory showings. Unicron is a rare character in cosmic fiction who, despite being subject to numerous retcons and lore adjustments, has not had his position in the hierarchy of his stories change in any meaningful way in the nearly 40 years since his conception, unlike some of his contemporaries.

Where similar characters like Galactus and the Anti-Monitor have power levels that fluctuate wildly depending on how invested a given writer is in them, Unicron does not necessarily experience this. His showings are sporadic, inconsistent, and often confusing, but there are layers of storytelling laying out why his character works the way it does. He is also the rare character where understanding his power and what he means to his fictional setting can actually enhance your appreciation for him as a character, one who is often written off as "one-note" and dull, and I hope this thread will not just be informative but grant a new perspective on what I think is the most underrated wider-scope villain out there.
This thread will be broken into three main sections for clarity, as Unicron largely functions in one of three roles: his True Form(s), his Avatars, and the Unicron Singularity (or Grand Black Hole). We will be working top down as Unicron is also unusual in that he has largely gotten weaker over time, and his True Form is directly linked to the formation of all of Transformers fiction as a whole. Unicron is not a singularity in name only, it is his actions that cause the bulk of everything any Transformers fan has experienced in the series. Additionally, his Avatars are what makeup the vast majority of his appearances in fiction, and as such it made sense to contain them in their own dedicated section (also because theirs will take by far the greatest amount of effort to cover).

Before reading further, I would advise familiarizing yourself with the cosmology breakdown of Transformers covered in our Transformers discussion thread here

Transformers feats/discussion

Transformers is a long running toy robot franchise that's been around for nearly 40 years at this point. As a result of its length and action focus, it's got a tremendous amount of lore and feats to catalogue. The purpose of this thread is for any and all discussion of Transformers, but...

onelastforum.com

I will be including and recapping relevant sections, but reading through this will give you a wider understanding of the way TF and its vaguely defined "rules" work.

The True Form of Chaos

(Transformers US #71/UK #317)

To truly understand Unicron we need to start at the very beginning, before time as we know it or reality even existed. One of the idiosyncrasies of Transformers' reality is that the origin of the Multiverse has been subject to change and modification, with multiple seemingly opposing origins being put forth with none outright confirmed as the truth. However with some effort, we can actually determine something surprising: they're all true, and they all have one core tenet - Unicron is born, he eats everything in existence, he sleeps, and a new reality is born from the fragments.

Transformers Q&A Ask Vector Prime speculates on the origins of the multiverse as follows

Dear Vector Prime,

Do you or the Transtech have any idea how the multiverse came into existence?
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A: Dear Fledgling Physicist,

There are many theories about how multiverses originate. Some more mathematical than others.

In some circles, it is believed that the entirety of the Cybertronian Multiverse can be traced back to a single instance - often dubbed "the Big Bang" by humans. At this moment in time, the time that time began, a random explosion of homogeneous particles littered a singular, primordial universe with "inflatons". These inflatons spread themselves throughout the void, planting the seeds for matter to form. As the life-span of the inflaton is not one that is long-lived (from the quantum perspective that is), the inflatons began to decay, and from the dying inflatons came all the more familiar particles that matter interacts with today. Importantly, that moment when the first inflatons began to decay and started to form other particles, they also formed a group of particles collectively known as "observers". This is important since the inflatons themselves have neutral quantum vibrations, but begin to vibrate when in proximity to observers. These vibrations then generate a "bubble" effect, and those bubbles begin to inflate and form pocket universes. Some of these universes stay together in the initial cluster, but others begin to bud off and form their own clusters, completely individual from the first. The process continues over countless millennia until a multiverse such as ours is created*.

*Remember though, the inflatons are not immortal particles, and it takes an event as powerful as the Big Bang to create them. So according to this theory at some point, the expansion of the multiverse will slow and come to a halt.

Another theory is more philosophical. Existence began with The One. The One was existence - harmony and discord, order and chaos all existing in perfect balance in a state without time. It was this way until The One created entity known as Unicron. (There are countless more theories as to why it did so). The One then split Unicron into two and formed Primus. The latter inherited all of the qualities of Order, while the former retained near-every aspect of Chaos. So it was that existence was created outside of The One, and the split that formed Primus split this new existence, forming fragments in the void that would grow to create the many parallel universes in our multiverse.

One last theory, as philosophical as the prior, posits that a multiverse was always in existence. Right from the beginning of time, there were already multiple versions of our history. These versions, much fewer than we know exist now, sat and stewed before a powerful external force - let us name this force "The Forest Leer" as it was the first to see that original untidy thicket of trees and the potential it had to become a mighty and expansive forest - transformed these histories by the sheer will of identifying and classifying them. This spark of creativity was all that was needed to organize what had come before, and to build upon it exponentially until our multiverse became what it is today.

Take from these theories what you will. One may be correct or, somehow, all could have coincided at once. Even in my wisdom and vision of all time and space, I do not have a single interpretation for how time and existence started. Time travel, by its very nature, requires time in which to travel. Attempting to visit an era without time is futile.

These explanations are not mutually exclusive...we in fact witness the first two in-tandem in Transformers issue #74, told directly from Primus and shown to us (presumably The One informed of what had happened "prior" to Primus' own birth. "Prior" in quotes as these characters are atemporal, which will be covered down the line)

It does need to be noted of course, that these pages refer to the creation of a single universe. One thing to keep in mind about Transformers is that its main architect, Simon Furman, had a habit of continually modifying this origin story in various ways (and even adds cosmic lore to this very day). By the time he wrote the 2006 DK Guide to Transformers, he had already retconned this explanation into the birth of all realities, not just one. This also establishes Primus was split from half of Unicron, something absent from his original backstory.

We do get one other glimpse besides "The Void!" of what Unicron was doing before Primus was torn from him, during Reaching the Omega Point #1 "Covenant" (1999), also written by Simon Furman.

The beginning, strictly speaking, was the end. The end of an entire universe, one that had existed long before any modern measurement of time began. It was the twilight of the gods, beings of pure energy that had grown to a point where nothing was beyond them. They were omnipotent, almighty, boundless. But, as it turned out, not all-seeing.

Otherwise, they might have noticed that one of their number had taken to calling himself the devourer of worlds. Though as it happened, worlds were merely an aperitif to the banquet that was to follow. Its name was Unicron, and its terrible hunger drove it to wipe all life from this old Universe. It consumed its fellow gods (not immortal either), planets, galaxies, even space itself, until there was nothing. Satiated, it finally slept, alone in the void.

But tenaciously, life hung on, and through a massive effort of will it began a subatomic chain reaction that built and expanded, gathering gaseous momentum with each explosion of primal forces. Until ultimately, it birthed a new Universe, created new life. And with this creation came a protector, a counter-force to the threat of Unicron. Its name was Primus.

However, it soon became apparent that this fragile new universe was not meant to contain beings as powerful and elemental as Unicron and Primus. Their battles laid waste to countless fledgling star systems, destroying the very life Primus had been created to protect. And so, a plan was borne. One that would, if successful, both end the current threat of Unicron, and, ultimately, safeguard the universe for generations to come.

Primus intended to lure Unicron to a reality that existed as an extension of the mind, beyond the physical form. There, Unicron would all but triumph, and scenting final victory would blindly pursue the retreating Primus. Unicron would not, until far too late, realize that, instead of returning to their energy forms, their psychic essences had materialized inside dead metal asteroids, where they would both be trapped for all eternity.

But like all good plans, a dry run was needed. Especially as all this was simply the precursor to a much grander and far reaching scheme. And that was where the Covenant came in.

As we see here, Unicron at his apex was not just eating reality, he was devouring other gods, his own kin. The timeline is important to keep in mind, as Furman would not retcon the multiversal nature until a few years later, but this still establishes several key points about Unicron, his race's "omnipotent" powers, existing "long before any modern measurement of time began".

This is all we directly know of Unicron's first True Form. I say first because he actually has two of them, one before Primus was split from him, and one that would appear afterwards if only briefly. To recap: he destroys all the gods of the previous reality, referred to in the comics as the Old Realms, consumes the Old Realms themselves, and then slumbers. The fragments of these react, either on their own or due to the birth of Primus during his slumber, into a big bang that lasted "countless trillions of your years" and resulted in the multiverse. This is a character who existed complete unopposed save for The One above him, who eats abstract beings and sleeps through the births of mass amounts of realities. But how many realities are we talking about here?

This is covered in far greater detail in the cosmology thread, but a quick explanation is as follows:

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Spoiler: An overview of Endless Universes and Higher Dimensions

There are infinite universes, this is reiterated in multiple places such as...

Spoiler: Universe Issue 1

Spoiler: Wreckers Finale

“Windrazor! But how-?!”

The Maximal from the far future, a future that would never be, smiled benignly at Maximus. The reality that Shokaract created was destroyed, and by all rights I should have been as well… but Primus had other plans.You pulling me through the transwarp gate to your own reality enabled him to bring me safely into the Allspark. You may consider me… a spirit guide, in a sense.

“You were sent for me? To assist me?”

I’m afraid not. I am needed… elsewhere, elsewhen. As you are no doubt aware now, there are endless realities in all of existence. Primus watches each, ever vigilant against his brother Unicron. His children are in need. I must go soon to assist other Matrix Templars as Alpha Trion assisted you… but I had to see you one more time, let you know what became of me.

Spoiler: Balancing Act

Spoiler: Transformers Deviations

There are other examples but as stated, the main discussion thread has more of those broken down. These universes are also consistently referred to as infinite in size, which is covered more thoroughly in the main thread. "Infinite universes" does not tell the full story however, because Transformers has a rather odd way of handling branch universes or alternate possibilities of a single timeline.

In Regeneration One issue #91 it is established that the Marvel G1 comic universe had both infinite pasts and future timelines in its own right.

Spoiler

It is a significant plot point of Regeneration One that the Matrix Entity, the arc's main villain, was trapped in Zero Space and could not access the wider multiverse. The infinite pasts and futures it sends Rodimus to in the story, and thus Zero Space where they meet, are just branches of this single timeline. Ask Vector Prime would have an even more extreme example.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Who or what exactly is Megatron X, the Transformer who appeared in a version of the Beast Wars? Also, how does one categorize universes where there are multiple outcomes?
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A: Dear Dimensional Inquisitor,

Megatron X has seldom appeared outside of Primax 1099.01-N6 Kappa or Primax 700.12-N4 Kappa. Both universes are highly, highly volatile. To put it mildly, they exist in a state of constant flux, with the probabilities churning through multiple resonance patterns and flipping from one state to the next to the next.

Interestingly, though there are an uncountable infinity of modalities for these universes to exist in, they tend to unerringly snap into one of twelve stable quantum-hyperwave endstates. Though I myself do not find it necessary to catalog each of these outcomes, I imagine Rhinox would choose to label them I through XII. Thus, one could travel to Primax 700.12-N4 Kappa IV, where Tigatron and Airazor are able to live blissfully together. Or one could examine Primax 1099.01-N6 Kappa XI, where Tarantulas led a battle fleet to prehistoric Earth, leading to disastrous consequences.

It is this very instability which attracted the Vok, agents of whom created Megatron X as an emissary, enhanced in the image of the most potent active spark in the conflict. In another timestream, the Vok would similarly create Tigerfalcon.

What is curious to me is that, despite many similarities between the aforementioned universes and the dimensions of Primax 1099.01-PS Kappa and Primax 700.12-SP Kappa, similarly chaotic realities, the Vok have never to my knowledge shown any interest in these realities. Perhaps this is because the latter reality-matrices have only two stable quantum-hyperwave endstate, compared to the dozen from the former.

Not the bold. The universes have an "uncountable infinity" of possible variations, which is a specific mathematic term referring to a "larger infinity" than what is called a "countable infinity". Now you may be curious "if these universes tend to snap into one of 12 possibilities, why does this matter?" because as established in some of my previous scans all possible versions of a universe exist, Primus even says this directly in the Universe scan above. This is also a good time to bring up another major architect of Transformers cosmology, Forest Lee, who helped define the "multiversal singularity" concept better which is a hallmark of Transformers' cosmos, and will be elaborated on further in the thread as needed.

His explanation from Hasbro's July 2009 Q&A is as follows
Source

The complex nature of the multiverse demands much from singular creatures like the Fallen, Primus, Unicron, the 13, etc. These beings are of a fundamentally different nature from regular individuals, who are repeated endlessly throughout the infinite variation of creation. They must be designed or evolved to deal with certain situations that would drive lesser beings mad.

First of all, time flows differently from dimension to dimension. By necessity, this makes it possible for creatures like the Fallen to appear to exist in two places at the same time. Second, whole new universes are spawned every moment by the resolution of quantum uncertainty. Most of these universes are dead ends that exist for only a few seconds or minutes at most, and encompass only a few critical moments. Therefore, at certain critical junctures, the Fallen becomes a quantum event, experiencing two or more possible outcomes at once, until one of those outcomes proves to be a dead end and collapses. The Fallen then reverts back to the "real" universe. Every story has dozens or hundreds of endings we never see. But the Fallen sees them.

One of the side effects of the Fallen's quantum nature is that his appearance changes slightly from dimension to dimension, based on the expectations of others, and the unique history he has (or has not) established in a particular dimension. He is also bound by the "rules" (gravity, magnetism, etc.) of any dimension in which appears – many of which rules he may have actually helped shape when the multiverse was young. So if time flows backwards in a certain dimension, he is bound to live and experience – forgetting as he goes along – everything backwards.Smart and savvy dimensional travelers spend time in reverse timescale dimensions, slow-time dimensions, or dimensions in which time does not move at all. This ensures that even if they are "killed," they continue to exist. As you can see, the idea of sequential experience as you and I understand it is pretty meaningless to guys like the Fallen. He does experience all these things, but his mind operates on a higher order so all of this stuff totally makes sense to him.

Even if these possible universes are short-lived and standard life does not perceive or experience them, the cosmic beings in Transformers do.

More modern material has outright referred to the multiverse as being made of other multiverses which I will not cover here, but necessary quotes are located in the main thread. Transformers: Forged to Fight, Transformers: Cyberverse, and even some Takara bios now refer to multiple multiverses.

We also have to cover the higher dimensions of the multiverse, of which the number of them is heavily debated, but I will present the available information below for you to make your own assessment.

: Dear Vector Prime,


What other sort of dimensions and realities exist outside of the Multiverse? What are they like, and who resides there?

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A: Dear Omniversal Ontologist,


Imagine the strangest inhabited universe you can conceive of, places where gravity operates linearly and electromagnetism by the inverse cubed rule and topology has 13 basic dimensions instead of 17. How alien it must be. Then ponder the wildest universes those beings could articulate. Then realize that even these musings fail to capture the uncountable infinities that exist in the Omniverse.


That and more, much more, is what exists outside the Multiverse.

There are at least 17 basic dimensions as a standard in the multiverse. The Omniverse also contains "uncountable infinities" beyond the main multiverse. Noting this because while it will be covered later, there is material tying both Primus and Unicron to the omniverse directly and not just their multiverse.

From Hirofumi Ichikawa's "Alternation" story, we discover the higher dimensions operate on Brane Cosmology

They devised a super spatial theory and a warp technology as the necessities of communication. During the process of their extreme evolution, their mental function had become one with the law of nature. They were the "living braneworld" and the first Transformer race that accomplished "All are One", although it was perhaps possible because their two dimensional world was limited in space. They also functioned as a cosmic sized two dimensional computer, and in accordance with their logic and intelligence, the Planicrons were good-natured.

(The 2D world is also described as boundless in another story, so this may only mean limited in relation to the 3D and higher worlds, the Alternity themselves being 10-Dimensional)

There are however two statements that there may be "Countless Dimensions". In Transformers, many statements alluding to this actually mean "universes" but in these instances it is more ambiguous. The first is from the Universe 2003 Botcon Script reading

Spoiler

Despite the comedic tone, this story was canon to the much more serious contemporary Universe comics, and written by their author Simon Furman. It lists countless dimensions as a separate item from "myriad realities" which are interchangeable with universes. Furman would use this again in something with much more debatable canonicity when he pitched a Cybertron comic that was never published.

Spoiler: Furman's Cybertron Pitch

In all the disparate timelines, in all the myriad dimensions, there is but one Unicron. Though physical presence is limited to a single reality at any given time, it exists simultaneously in countless dimensions, shadows of its vast, ancient consciousness inextricably woven into the complex geometry of time and space.

This is far less ambiguous as realities and dimensions are clearly separated here, but this comic was never published so whether this is even usable is up for debate. Additionally, it is entirely possible that this still simply refers to "Universes" as Furman does not have a track record of utilizing numbered higher dimensions in his writing often (he uses higher realms, but they tend to be more abstract and vaguely defined and not 1:1 with spaciotemporal dimensions), and this could just be a way of explaining Unicron's consciousness straddling the multiverse while his bodies enter them one by one. Though the latter has also been explained as simply Unicron existing beyond time, and therefore he's everywhere even when he should be in one place.

Transformers also has an odd quirk about canon, which is that many completely cancelled or outright rejected materials have actually been canonized, generally via Ask Vector Prime. The rejected original Transformers: The Movie script for example, is a completely real timeline that exists in the multiverse. An entirely unmade G1 cartoon episode that didn't even have a script was canonized based on nothing but a blog post from the writer recapping what he remembered of it. This pitch is also generally consistent with Balancing Act, with only some small details changing regarding the origin of Nemesis' Matrix. Again, canonicity here is dubious, but TF is one of the weirder series out there with regard to canon, so a case can be made supporting this, especially as it's written by the same author who provided the previous canonical quotation.

All that is a quite longwinded way of saying, at his apex, Unicron slept through the creation of a vast and complex macrocosm, the birth of which was a side-effect of his own Deicide.

So what exactly is Unicron? As some of the scans above state, it is a primal force of Chaos, but other information paints a bigger picture. Simon Furman's short story "Alignment" (2001/2) would be one of the first stories to touch on his true nature, albeit implicitly.

It shrank away from the light, let its few selective offspring
spread like a malaise through the Transformer race. And as
successive generations moved further away from their godly
origins, so the Liege Maximo sought to return to that state. It
watched as the Cybertronian nation evolved, saw its taint
move down through the generations to spawn first Megatron
and ultimately the Decepticons. And all the while, its own
researches into the dark origins of the universe continued,
revealing a pattern, a unique alignment of stars that signalled
the intersection of a much older reality with their own. Here
dwelt gods, and the Liege Maximo desired nothing more than
to ascend to that reality, to become a god. And so the building
of the Hub began, a resonant structure designed to open a
portal to the world beyond.

That their own universe would be destroyed in the process was
really of little or no concern to the Liege Maximo.

The Liege Maximo, one of Primus' children, attempts to ascend into the Realm of the Dark Gods and become a being on Unicron's level. This would have the side-effect of destroying the universe. We get more insight into this process as the story continues.

Above, the stars seemed to glow brighter, as if some celestial
contact had been established. The Liege Maximo felt the first
wrench, a dizzying pull at the very substance of its being. It
knew it was changing, becoming different. The physical laws
that had bound it began to slip away, its consciousness
expanded across multiple plains to encompass the enormity of
other realities, other possibilities.
Above, the heavens themselves seem to warp, a tidal wave of
unreality spreading like a virus through the substance of space
and time. And at its epicentre, a portal began to form. It had no
substance, no shape, no definable event horizon, but it
assaulted the senses, pulling and tugging at the Liege Maximo
like some hungry predator.

The process is described as "unreality" spreading through space and time, with Liege's consciousness beginning to elevate across other planes of existence, and physical laws deteriorating.

For a long, protracted period it resisted, fought, struggled,
hung on to the roots it had laid down in what it understood as
reality. If it was not ready, not fully acclimatised to its new
state of unbeing, it would be destroyed, consumed. It needed
time, while time still had any meaning, to encompass the
myriad contradictions and absurdities, it needed…

This is also described as a state of "unbeing" that embodies contradictions. Maximo cannot be defined by the current order in his attempts to become like Unicron, and Furman directly stated in the 2006 DK Guide that this was an attempt to reach the realm of the Dark Gods and become a being akin to Unicron.

(Note: While TFWiki considers Alignment apocryphal and possibly non-canon, it was technically canonized by Ask Vector Prime which is an official source. They have their own internal reasons for not including it, but because it was recognized by an official source as a true account of events, I will be treating its information as valid for this thread)

Spoiler: DK Guide (Top Right)

Simply put, Unicron is not merely an Abstract, conceptual force, he is an unfathomable contradictory thing these ideas are pale reflections of, as he directly shows and tells us during his monologue in Balancing Act

Spoiler: Unicron describes itself

Death and Entropy themselves are poor imitations of him. There is no reason to believe this is empty boasting...we've witnessed this character devour the gods, which as his kin, would embody similar states of abstraction. Unicron isn't "just" chaos or "just" evil, he is the source of these ideas and the reason why there is suffering and brutality in this or any other world. He wants it to be that way, and so it is. As an aside, one of the aspects I love about this monologue is taken with the rest of his lore, it really highlights what a depraved, all encompassing Eschaton he is, as Primus being half of him means he always possessed that same capacity for good and healing, and willfully supressed it (something all but confirmed when a Good variant of Unicron could only exist after the original was cut apart during The Shroud, which will be covered in the Avatars section). This is a good segway into Unicron's second True Form, as even at half-empty, it has no interest in allowing other gods to exist besides itself.

Chaos and Order

As established earlier, Furman would include a new idea later into his writing that Primus, the god of light and goodness, was in fact half of Unicron. They are still abstracted beings and during "The Legacy of Unicron!" arc in Transformers UK, Unicron gives us a firsthand account at his origins and conflict with his twin. It lines up with Primus' own account, though with some more detail to it, most notably...

Even at half power Unicron beats the brakes off his brother to the point all Primus can do is trick him into being being permanently sealed

Their battle occurs both in their "Energy Forms" (their True Forms prior to multiple writers moving the characters in a more conceptual direction rather than physical) as well as mental, on the Astral Plane. The Astral Plane is ill-defined and appears sparsely in Transformers, but we do have direct confirmation it transcends both Space and Time entirely.

Spoiler: Sources

The DK Guide confirms it is beyond space in its mention of distance.

While Beast Wars: Reborn (Chapter 2) would have Vector Prime confirm that transcending time is also necessary to reach it.

“I have transcended time at the order of the Creator. I am Vector Prime!”

https://web.archive.org/web/2020092...ars-reborn-chapter-2-of-4-master-of-the-game/

I also want to address a common misconception that persists even among Transformers fans. It is often thought even in-universe that due to Primus' inherently good essence, the Matrix can permanently kill Unicron. As it turns out this is a total misunderstanding and it only has the power to kill his physical sealed bodies, something we learn firsthand during the Legacy of Unicron

As it turns out bringing the Matrix in contact with Unicron's mind will allow him to absorb it outright, permanently killing Primus and reunifying them into one all-powerful being.

To establish how impressive this actually is though, we need to cover why Primus is significant. Some of this will be gone over in more depth in the "Unicron Singularity" section, as Primus' most notable showings occur then, but True Primus has few appearances similarly to Unicron, due to the self-imposed seal, and as such it is necessary to draw from feats accomplished by his weaker selves. We've already covered how the Multiverse's birth was a possible side-effect of Primus' own creation, but his direct link to its continued survival is more directly spelled out in other material.

From Balancing Act, while Unicron is the end of all things, Primus is established as their beginning

Primus is so integral to existence that, as in scans supplied in the "Universes" section, destroying his physical bodies is enough for Unicron to cause a chain reaction destroying every single reality in existence, which was Ramjet's entire plan.

Ask Vector Prime covers several examples where damaging Primus destroys the entire universe around it.

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

What reality does the Dinobot combiner the Beast hail from? Has it been destroyed?
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A: Dear Savage Supplicant,

Primax 504.0 Gamma was indeed destroyed. Following The Beast's rampage, so many on both sides of the war were damaged or destroyed that, when Unicron inevitably appeared, Cybertron's defense was pitifully inadequate. Though Unicron was driven off, he was able to inflict a fatal wound to Primus' slumbering form. Reality-quakes devastated the cosmos as the basic quantum sub-structure of the universe painfully de-cohered. By the time the remnants of this dimension were consumed by Hytherion, it could only be considered a mercy, and thus did beings such as myself remain uninvolved.

In one case this caused so much instability it rippled into the Omniverse

Q: Dear Vector Prime,

Would the death of a universal stream's Primus be guaranteed to destabilize the spacetime of the universal stream?
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A: The death of any deity is virtually guaranteed to send shockwaves rippling forwards and backwards through the quantum foam underpinning that reality. Witness the impact on timestreams near what you might refer to as Primax 787.3 Alpha. An omniversal reality was pulled into quantum-string vibrational alignment with their reality, allowing the people of the distant reality of Planet Sandra to make contact. Beings especially attenuated to the lifestream matrices of Vector Sigma, such as Godmessenger and Godmaster, acquire multiple conflicting histories and futures. Other streams that might otherwise be unrelated are pulled into probability vortex left by Cybertron's absence, their string vibrational eigenstates orienting to create one massive unified timeline where before there were many. Dimensional fragments from other clusters were duplicated wholecloth in this OG Reality, with completely different fermion modality, creating entirely new dimensional streams identical but for cosmetic details!

However the most crucial aspect of Primus came from an obscure story from the Transformers: Legends anthology book published in 2004. In this book, we get our only in-depth explanation of the Transformers' afterlife to date, and it is essentially borrowed wholecloth from the Kabbalah tradition.

This is a wide-reaching topic in its own right, covered extensively in the main thread, so I'll only be recapping key bits here

Spoiler: Primus' Tree of Life

These are the key pages. The main takeaway is that the Tree of Life is vastly "more real" than the Multiverse, it/Primus views the multiverse as a mere metaphor in comparison to itself. This isn't flowery language, it is literal, as BW Megatron even watches his own self in the lower world live out its life near the end and directly admits what he experienced in the Tree is more real than his life was, with Rhinox's spiritual form glad he finally understands this.

This is significant because...everything traces back to Unicron. All that Primus is, is simply the lesser half of his brother.

If even when weakened, even when sealed, Primus maintains such an abstracted state of being as to make the vastness of space, time, and higher planes simply appear as if they don't even exist compared to him, then what does this say about the elder brother?

To the benefit of all life as we know it, Primus succeeded and Unicron was sealed, and in the next section we will go over his various avatars, their extremely confusing exploits, and the surprising amount of power the Chaos Bringer held onto even in this mechanical state.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Reserved for Avatar Unicron analysis

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Reserved for Unicron Singularity/Grand Black Hole analysis

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Reserved just in case I want to do a separate post for the Shroud and/or further mechanics of Multiversal Singularities

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

Looks solid!

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Some finetuning I could do with that first post still but thanks, I definitely need to add some of the quotes from Alignment, but there’s also just not a ton for Unicron’s original self that isn’t upscaling from his sealed forms and I didn’t want to be too redundant or cover too much of that in that section.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

Unicron's soul exists in the depths of the Astral Plane. He can pull out beings into his mind and tortures them until he send them back to the material plane.


Unicron is the existence of destruction and devoured all existence (previous multiverse, this was him doing when he was a singular being)


him and Primus serve as the gods of Transformers. Both the Life-Giver and the Chaos-Bringer are equally powerful, but taking to the sheer fact that Unicron has more superior advantage than Primus which Primus was about to enter to the Omniversal Matrix after he was done with his task, but that was just through trickery since in reality, Unicron was just beating him. Both can create artifacts, installed from their essence to kill each other.





Unicron's existences spans across dimensions and realities.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Updated the first post with a section of quotes from Alignment detailing the contradictory nature of the gods, and added the Beast Wars: Reborn and DK Guide supporting quotes outlining the Astral Plane as transcending both space and time, as I'd previously not directly touched on the Astral Plane at all.

Also rewrote a bit of the section on Furman's Cybertron pitch, to more honestly reflect its ambiguity and likelihood that it still did not indicate the confirmation of "countless" dimensions in Transformers. As it is dubiously canon, this doesn't matter much, but I felt in the interest of honesty it was worth clarifying.