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+ pseudo clears such as doc save or rbs


With the census it would also out that there should be more than one kp faction in the game so a rb preventing a kill would be clearing in a bunch of cases
 
Lappland said:
So after n1

You have either 3 clears in the game or a redcheck with the cop

4 potential ways to redcheck someone (cop, follower, watcher and shooting a bp)

Which does not check out to me from a balance perspective?
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Well the cop and the masons seem a little excessive, which is why my suspicion defaults to your masonry

Fuji isn't the type to give out fake cop claims, usually, so for Ali to be scum, he'd have to scout it out as safe after identifying town doesn't have one
 
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Lappland said:
So after n1

You have either 3 clears in the game or a redcheck with the cop

4 potential ways to redcheck someone (cop, follower, watcher and shooting a bp)

Which does not check out to me from a balance perspective?
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Indeed. Sort of polarizes SGs slot further, like I guessed, too. Makes the claim sorta insane, too. Feel good about that.

Follower got no result so far? or smth. Or just didnt activate? If still has activations left, seems like something that could force a 50/50 later.

kiku must either be blocked, strongman past, or lying. We have a LOT of people who are in similar situations i feel? Like the vigi, SG/Ali anything else?

village has +3 kills in a 18er, meaning wolves most likely have some sorta KP role still out there most likely. Are there more exotic forms of KP on this site? Arso, stalker, bombsmith, etc.

As you say, thats a lot of clearance tho between invest claimants and the already flipped KP, are games on this site usually more mech puzzles than ww? Because we're at "mech puzzle" level of mechanical claims atm.

In any case, we're missing 2 claims by the sounds of it? On a level, I guess, it makes sense to waiting claiming 1 more day if you believe that is +ev (due to the apparent existence of disrp roles + w/ the claims in play wolves probably have some hammers to counteract our nails, as it were)

mm can someone give me lke a full, straight forward explination as to what rolecrushing is in this context? I understood it as temp vanilla, but like idk if that lines up lol

sigi CCing the tracker claimant d1 is presumably clearing? unless that sort of thing happens on this site, anyone wanna jump in on that.

ye if this was a game i was balancing, due to the role madness nature, the wolves would have to be JUICED, that or theres like a pretty glaring fakeclaim(s) that would lower the power of the setup quite a lot.

smth along those lines
 
If I had to compromise here I'd probably lynch between the roleblocking claims (Star/Cata) as one of them flipping scum (especially the latter) squares the confusion over roleblocking

And both of them seem uh, confused, for different reasons
 
Ultra said:
That being said I'm still not sure if I buy the masonry but can leave that on the back burner for now
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fwiw i buy it. me and lappland dont have perfect reads on each other, we can fool each other as wolf i want to say a reasonable amount of the time? but i feel good about him this game and the claim basically perfectly slots in to where my perception of him is and explains away the worries i was having
 
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