It's hard not to notice stuff like this when I know Atsumori is the weaker link here and he isn't confident doing involved lying as scum
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You feel like you're acting as his handler though
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Yes, as villager
Well it isn't really 2 wolves for free if the lie isn't called, it's a gambit, one with pretty bad downsides, I'll give you, but considering you had viewed masonry as a clearing claim prior...
I mean the problem with Reloaded impoverished is Lappland has a very good meta read of the player who had the slot before, and says they were on scum meta, and I think Reloaded's choice of watch is convenient and suboptimal. Also, I was considering the "why would he claim" thing but it could be as simple as scum wanting to get their claim out and on the table in a way that looks more natural.
The main thing I see going for him frankly is that it's otherwise pretty out of character for him to take a risk like that as scum. Or in general.
Doesn't really matter, they're either scum together or town together, I consider those slots solved. Easy enough.
He specifically said that they were Masons confirmed to one another, that was the clearing part, not that Mason itself is confirmed. Lappland knows otherwise and has played in games where that has not been the case.
His reaction to me pushing him after the claim suggests otherwise
And it felt quite insincere because he should know otherwise, saying he's IC isn't really accurate
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To clarify btw: I said pqwerty was out of town range and acting like he had randed wolf into a lobby. We had a whole discord conversation after his last scum game where I carried him to the finish line while he was redchecked and he just hates randing scum in general
Here is an example from our converastion during the last day during that
So when I see him in thread completely deflated and giving up essentially, I assume it is because he can't do it after a very stressful game we just finished a few days before this one started
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Normally masons share alignments and neighbors are the unconfirmed equivalent on MU where I played for years by now. The unconfirmed masonry stuff is something I am aware of, but last time I remember seeing it was years ago. That being said we were told the alignment of each other, so I treated it as such.
I think my treatment of Atsumori also makes it obvious that I am prodding him to work more as villager especially day 2
If Reloaded is scum he dictates his lie about his usage, he doesn't have to claim both a suboptimal target and being blocked, so why both? He could say he watched you and no visitors, or...I don't think it's that hard to reconcile, blocked implies he isn't confident enough to make an empty usage claim, but that seems kinda easy no?
Begs the question of why he would need to lie, I don't see a good reason here - he could justify actually watching the vig very easily
Basically Relo can just easily lie unless he's afraid he'll be contradicted
Only possible if he doesn't genuinely use watcher
And he has a perfect excuse to use Watcher on his actual target, no?
Only possible if he doesn't genuinely use watcher
And he has a perfect excuse to use Watcher on his actual target, no?
No, and you know better than this Ultra - claiming blocked means he has no need to worry about being right. If he says he watched me and I had no visitors, and then the doctor turns around and says "but I protected Ratchet", he is caught in a lie. If he claims he's blocked, though, he can never be truly caught in a lie outright, and a mechanical catch more or less requires a mass claim. Which we've almost had.
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