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Anyway I think repeating the Reloaded angle doesn't really help at this point, we have time to go elsewhere.

Why do we need a census in a game that seems to be drier than stale bread?
 
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No, and you know better than this Ultra - claiming blocked means he has no need to worry about being right. If he says he watched me and I had no visitors, and then the doctor turns around and says "but I protected Ratchet", he is caught in a lie. If he claims he's blocked, though, he can never be truly caught in a lie outright, and a mechanical catch more or less requires a mass claim. Which we've almost had.
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How do you feel about Ultra making up that I defended Yoho out of nowhere? It feels like Ultra has been pushing a lot of weird narratives for a minute by now
 
Ratchet said:
Anyway I think repeating the Reloaded angle doesn't really help at this point, we have time to go elsewhere.

Why do we need a census in a game that seems to be drier than stale bread?
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The census seems to be real at least, I don't think scum needs a census because they seem to have a strongarm kill anyway and the night kills kinda gave away that a SK was in play
 
So I think the census was a real role, I do not think Nutmeg would fake it (I kinda doubt Nutmeg even knows about the census being a role here either)
 
Believe the mason claim. I had been specifically worried about lappland not seeing what I was seeing on atsu yday and that the dismissal seemed potentially problematic/pairing. This makes it make sense, esp since I think he's been villagery outside of that.
 
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Believe the mason claim. I had been specifically worried about lappland not seeing what I was seeing on atsu yday and that the dismissal seemed potentially problematic/pairing. This makes it make sense, esp since I think he's been villagery outside of that.
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dw I am now gonna ride the mason claim to lylo where I win as scum carrying Atsumori's liveless body around like it is weekend's at bernies
 
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that is totally the actual scenario btw, I just put an extra challenge on myself when I could play through this position just fine with all the roleclaims lol
 
Ratchet said:
No, and you know better than this Ultra - claiming blocked means he has no need to worry about being right. If he says he watched me and I had no visitors, and then the doctor turns around and says "but I protected Ratchet", he is caught in a lie. If he claims he's blocked, though, he can never be truly caught in a lie outright, and a mechanical catch more or less requires a mass claim. Which we've almost had.
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That's exactly my point? Why doesn't he just use the Watcher on his actual target and claim actual results? Where's the demand to block coming from - there are answers, like he doesn't have a usage, but it doesn't stand to reason he'd claim blocked for no reason
 
Well to get this straight

He did claim no one visited Melkor n1 so I am willing to believe he is watcher or had a watcher action

That being said his targets of choice do not seem particulary good? I could see the scum rationale for targetting them though or he could actually be some sort of JOAT

Things that I dislike from reloaded essentially are:
Pqwerty posting like his dog just died
His targets for his watch
His own posting being lazy and weak. For the most part he just kinda omgussed me and didn't really look beyond me at all
That thought Yoho was outed for claiming 1x tracker which feels like such a weird and out there reason to suspect someone day 1
 
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just finished setting up my new computer yippee yippee

feel good about where i stand here, think its plausible that a bunch of the claims so far seem fairly credible (RBer, cop, masons) which is a nice place to be

pretty eepy rn tho had a long day so might just chill till tmr, try to get some better reads on the game
 
alright i have alis list

Sharter -> ?
Ali -> Alignment Cop N1 Flower {innocent} N2 Stargate {action failed}
Reloaded -> watcher ❌ Mafia Gf?
Sigi -> Tracker of some sort
Cata -> 1 shot rolecrusher N1 { }
York -> x-shot Protect N1 {?} N2 {Melkor}
Lapp -> ?
Nutmeg -> ?
Ratchet -> ?
Stargate -> Mafia Rb?

Sharter > follower
ali > cop n1 flower > n2 stargate (action failed)
reloaded > watcher n1 on melkor no one visted > n2 ratchet roleblocked
Sigi > day retroactive tracker
cata > 1 shot rolecrusher n1 on gad
kiku > x shot protect n1 no clue n2 melkor
lappland > alignment sharing masons with atsumori
atsumori > ""
nutmeg > n1 census
ratchet > no claim
stargate > rb

these should be all claims we are aware of rn

isn't that a lot of investigatives + a mason duo
 
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