Visually speaking, the Ten Rings are more impressive than 90% of the MCU
The MCU is just not that flashy with their feats. You’d have to take statements that put them to planet level or higher
although honestly, idk why I’m defending a current MidCU movie when I should be downplayingif he doesn’t scale for now then its fine
WHich is factually not true, you pay attention.Lol I never even talked about the Shang-chi statement or if it is or is not one of the contradictions. My argument has always been that taking WOG on its own has never been the OBD's way to scale things. Pay attention.
Only if WOG is contradicted, in this case it isn't, which is how it's always been.You're the only one here acting obtuse and dodging the main point nimrod. Blade simply said taking the MCU's WOG on its own is foolish,
Congratulations there are people just as inept as you are. How proud you must be, though that is the most pitiful amount of power I've ever seen go to someone's head. Imagine bragging about nepotism from an online forumyou know, this is the reason i barely talk in vs debatemen, imagine trying to tell me how the obd works, a guy who has won the best obd member awards 5 times
Still not seeing any evidence that contradicts Shang-Chi being weaker than mjolnir ThorThis is basically what it should begin and end with. Shang Chi didn't show anything impressive in the movie nor did we see with the Ten Rings usage that makes him Thor or Hulk in any fashion... and we constantly get this comparison with multiple heroes since Phase 4 despite most of them not matching up in their own damn movie(Even fucking Namor got this now) and are constantly contradicted in later movies(which is a huge issue that has permeated the MCU even before Doctor Strange).
Which it wasn't, thanks for backing up my point dumbass.WoG matters until it's contradicted, end of story.
Lol what? Since when the fuck has the OBD just taking WOG statements even when they contradict feats and on screen performances? Are you trying to act stupid on purpose now? Or are you doing exactly what I said and purposely missing the point just to say "nuh u wrong" just to pretend to act smart.WHich is factually not true, you pay attention.
Earth to moron, that has been the main point from the start, you are continuing to be obtuse for the shake of it and making a fight out of nothing. Take your own advice and start paying attention to what the hell we have been arguing about from the start instead of making an ass out of yourself in public.Only if WOG is contradicted, in this case it isn't, which is how it's always been.
Still not seeing any evidence that contradicts Shang-Chi being weaker than mjolnir Thor
Which it wasn't, thanks for backing up my point dumbass.
Honestly I think this is more them saying that Giant kaijus would be a little much for the climax that already had a lot going on especially since we know there are a lot of characters on the battlefield that can handle kaiju creatures and above. After all Strange, Wong and every other Kamar-Taj sorcerer was there along with an entire army of warships from Wakanda and across the galaxy so It's hard for me to take that giant 100m tall kaijus would be too insurmountable but if we take it as that's what they meant we can still disregard that given the contradictions from what we know the characters are capable of and that its info from the VFX artists and not writers/directors/Feige himself
Ok, gotcha. So I guess from the context of that we can probably infer that he pretty much means pre-stormbreaker Thor since he and Hulk were in the same league at that time and current post-stormbreaker Thor is on a different level than any of the mcu heroes we’ve seen so far with the exception of Strange, Wanda and maybe Carol
See here's the part where you're intentionally feigning ignorance is that the Shang-Chi director was never contradicted so there goes that argument.Lol what? Since when the fuck has the OBD just taking WOG statements even when they contradict feats and on screen performances? Are you trying to act stupid on purpose now? Or are you doing exactly what I said and purposely missing the point just to say "nuh u wrong" just to pretend to act smart.
As much as I like shakes, you're the one who argued not even because you disagreed with my point but because you're simping for another poster's attention.you are continuing to be obtuse for the shake of it and making a fight out of nothing.
Neat ad hominem, still not seeing any contradiction to the director of Shang-Chi's statement.Take your own advice and start paying attention to what the hell we have been arguing about from the start instead of making an ass out of yourself in public.
I didn't even ask anything dumbass. lol and none of that are counter arguments just so you know.Are you legit asking that when Thor destroyed the fucking Bifrost Bridge? Or damaged the hell out of Jotunheim? Or utterly wrecked The Destroyer?
That was Mjlonir Thor at that too.
Clearly your cherry picking is reaching another level. 1) I said that as a blantant generousity of taking it in a context that Gordo brought up (which we even agreed wasn't the case), 2) my point was that Strange/Carol and Wanda we know are capable of soloing Thanos' army (mostly because Carol mostly does and Strange and Wanda are comparable to actual Infinity Stones).Fucking Clownshoes...
You never said that at all you fucking idiot, again:
This is what you exactly stated.
What does Shang-Chi being in one movie have to do with his power level or literally anything? At least put some thought into your arguments.And this is before as well, taking it immediately from a Director who only had Shang-Chi be in ONE. FUCKING. MOVIE!
See here's the part where you're intentionally feigning ignorance is that the Shang-Chi director was never contradicted so there goes that argument.
Bolded because you are such a dense motherfucker that you need it. My argument from the beginning has been on the general nature of WOG and how the OBD treats it. You are the only one here feigning ignorance.Lol I never even talked about the Shang-chi statement or if it is or is not one of the contradictions. My argument has always been that taking WOG on its own has never been the OBD's way to scale things. Pay attention.
No one cares about your inferiority complex regarding Blade, his point was one I agree with so I will argue in favor of it, if that causes you asshurt it is no ones fault but your own. Considering your point has been a pointless one since he was clearly saying that contradicting statements regarding WOG should not be taken at face value all you are doing is making a fuss over nothing.As much as I like shakes, you're the one who argued not even because you disagreed with my point but because you're simping for another poster's attention.
That was literally just your previous sentence before mine, sherlock. You are literally throwing a bitch fit just because Blade is the one saying it and constantly throwing insults long before I did so spare me the attempt at looking like the victim when you are the one who started getting pissed over nothing. Once again, I never stated anything about Shang Chi, only that WOG is not absolute, which you are constantly getting butthurt about.Neat ad hominem, still not seeing any contradiction to the director of Shang-Chi's statement.
Than I clearly gave you too much creditYou are the only one here feigning ignorance.
That's a pretty lazy strawman. Contradicting someone's argument=/=inferiority complex, not that you know what what that even means clearly. He has no argument and neither do you but your so pavlovian to his tune it's hilarious.No one cares about your inferiority complex regarding Blade, his point was one I agree with so I will argue in favor of it, if that causes you asshurt it is no ones fault but your own. Considering your point has been a pointless one since he was clearly saying that contradicting statements regarding WOG should not be taken at face value all you are doing is making a fuss over nothing.
Clearly not, you're the one who started this conflict. Don't try to back out now, you're in it.That was literally just your previous sentence before mine, sherlock. You are literally throwing a bitch fit just because Blade is the one saying it and constantly throwing insults long before I did so spare me the attempt at looking like the victim when you are the one who started getting pissed over nothing.
Nobody said it was absolute, If it has no contradiction then it's valid was the first thing I ever said.Once again, I never stated anything about Shang Chi, only that WOG is not absolute, which you are constantly getting butthurt about.
More like I overestimated your intelligence.Than I clearly gave you too much credit
No shit sherlock, what do you think the main point of my argument has been from the get-go?The OBD has always been allowed to take WOG statements as long as they weren't contradicted.
Stop using words you have no clue about just to make yourself sound smart, they make you look dumber.That's a pretty lazy strawman.
Clearly I do since your very argument attacking me for just "Simping for another person" is the very definition of Ad Hominem as you attacked me, and not the argument itself.Contradicting someone's argument=/=inferiority complex, not that you know what what that even means clearly.
Wrong, you have no argument as shown by the fact you are literally repeating my words as if I did not just say them and then pretending you are the only one arguing it. And once again, showing that Inferiority complex by bitching about me agreeing with him while throwing out Ad Hominems like a salty cunt.He has no argument and neither do you but your so pavlovian to his tune it's hilarious.
Wrong dumbassClearly not, you're the one who started this conflict. Don't try to back out now, you're in it.
First comment by me. No insults to be found.Bold is exactly what Blade is referring to. MCU's WOG has been blatantly contradicting on various things so naturally we should not take it at face value.
Second comment, again no insult as I explain the basics of what has gone on in the OBD long before you ever came to it.That's exactly how it works dude. If their words contradicts others and does not measure up to what we see such as saying Thanos is the strongest antagonist when guys like Dormammu exists than we ignore said statements since they have no other backing other than their own word. You should know by now that's how the OBD works.
And here is where you than decide to start getting insulting and attack me long before I said anything to actually insult you.Guess we're doing this now...
No genius, we don't completely disregard everything WOG says just because one of them retcons the tiers he himself is making to establish. Also Dormammu wouldn't fall into that category since he's not part of the actual universe he's part of the Dark Dimension. If you really wanted to make a half decent argument you would have said Ego or Odin.
Then here is the rest where you are outright saying Dumbass and getting pissy at people. So, lol at you having the gull to act as if I started attacking you when evidence proves you are the one losing his shit.That's literally my point dumbass...
Nothing I said was cherry picking. What Kevin Feige says about Thanos/Strange/Carol has nothing to do with the writing intentions the Shang-Chi director has for his own writing. Cherry picking would be if I disregarded what Feige said about Carol being the strongest but accepted an earlier statement he made about Thanos being the strongest....
Then don't bitch and complain when I state as such, dickwad.Nobody said it was absolute, If it has no contradiction then it's valid was the first thing I ever said.
Attempts at making thread of the year it looks like. Unfortunately it's got a lot of competitionBro what in the fuck is even going on here
What happens when you combine autism/dyslexia with pompous stupidity.Bro what in the fuck is even going on here
Oh snap the elementary insult of repeating what the other persons says, clearly you're showing off your intelligenceMore like I overestimated your intelligence.
So you agree with me then, good glad that's establishedNo shit sherlock, what do you think the main point of my argument has been from the get-go?
Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean nobody else does, Google existsStop using words you have no clue about just to make yourself sound smart, they make you look dumber.
>Agrees with my point and not Blade'sClearly I do since your very argument attacking me for just "Simping for another person" is the very definition of Ad Hominem as you attacked me, and not the argument itself.
That's literally the only thing you've been doing lolWrong, you have no argument as shown by the fact you are literally repeating my words as if I did not just say them and then pretending you are the only one arguing it. And once again, showing that Inferiority complex by bitching about me agreeing with him while throwing out Ad Hominems like a salty cunt.
You do realize earlier posts don't cease to exist just because it's inconvenient for you right? First comments where (without checking) you say "you should know this by now OBD has done this for years" and repping insults towards me, and only starting this argument for Blade-senpai. Being openly condescending makes it obvious you weren't being the mature one here. Hell you were even agreeing with my point and only arguing against it because Blade didn't, to this moment you're still only arguing and stonewalling to be a contrarian. Dude c'mon nowWrong dumbass
If that was the case then nobody would be using WoG anyway since they would already have the feats....hell with novels and databooks WOG is the only thing backing feats up.As far as I'm aware, WoG means fuck all unless backed up by feats.
Oh yes because the child-like temper tantrum you have been having up to this point is supposed to be a sign of great maturity on your part? Give me a break.Oh snap the elementary insult of repeating what the other persons says, clearly you're showing off your intelligence
That WOG is not end all be all? should have been obvious from the start but you of course had to lose your shit by being dense.So you agree with me then, good glad that's established
>he says while ignoring he has been fitting the definition of the termJust because you don't understand them doesn't mean nobody else does, Google exists
Blade's point is your point you stupid sack of shit. "WOG is not absolute" was his very point, all you did was misunderstand and when told so you flipped your shit and got mad. Try keeping up.>Agrees with my point and not Blade's
There you go again with the inferiority complex. Do you have some hate boner for Blade? because it is getting suspicious just how hard you are seething over him. Not to mention I literally showed you who started with the Ad Hominems and it sure as fuck was not me. Do you need glasses or something?>Uses nothing but Ad hominems to attack me because he wants Blade senpai's approval
The only thing obvious is how oblivious you are.Seems pretty obvious like you're a simp to me
"no u" Reread the comment history doofus. You're the one accusing others of what you are guilty of.That's literally the only thing you've been doing lol
More like irrelevant since everything I have beef with you goes only to the First time I posted shit for brains.You do realize earlier posts don't cease to exist just because it's inconvenient for you right?
Fucking lol. THIS is the so called "insult" that got your panties in a bunch? Earth to dumbass, I've said worst shit to friends without any real insulting intent behind them and me just simply saying you should know things for how long you have been here is enough to get you asshurt? Even worse is that it is about the same kind of "insult" you gave Blade which was the first of your comments I replied to.First comments where (without checking) you say "you should know this by now OBD has done this for years" and repping insults towards me,
You literally proved my fucking point since by your own stupid ass logic, you did start with the ad Hominems before I even started posting in the thread.WOG has always been an acceptable source of canon unless contradicted so this shouldn’t come as a surprise to you.
More examples of inferiority complex.and only starting this argument for Blade-senpai.
More examples of hypocrisy as shown by your comment history.Being openly condescending makes it obvious you weren't being the mature one here.
Wrong, you were agreeing with Blade's point without knowing it and proceeded to misunderstand thanks to your dense nature and ended up getting pissy over it.Hell you were even agreeing with my point and only arguing against it because Blade didn't,
Another example of self-projection and hypocrisy. Also not really "contrarian" when it's just you arguing with everyone else so once again not only do you not know what those terms mean but you are the one following what those terms mean. Justto this moment you're still only arguing and stonewalling to be a contrarian. Dude c'mon now
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