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Are you working to the assumption that she wouldnt realise the optics of that?
Eh, if she realised the optics of it, then why'd she do it as either alignment lol. I guess maybe it wouldnt cross her mind as town, but if it didnt then it may not cross her mind as scum either

The reason that part specifically struck me as ingenuine was because I basically said she hadn't analysed anything and she was like yeah fair and went back and analysed a few posts from the start of the game, then she stopped and said she was gonna be busy and tag her if there was anything pressing etc. Then a few mins later offered to review further right now

It looks like she's just doing it to appease me rather than actually solve the game
 
Are you working to the assumption that she wouldnt realise the optics of that?
By her own admission she's pretty tired, and she's also kinda tone deaf at times so I don't think it's farfetched to assume she'd think it looks natural for her to go back to the very start of the game and (over)analyze a few posts from there in order to look like she's solving
 
Could you explain the first paragraph in simpler terms please, I can't say I understand what you're trying to say

Sure thing

A very basic assumption is that if i do X as town, but im not doing it here, then that points towards being scum

Or alternatively, if i do X as scum, but im not doing it here, then that points me being town

What im saying is that this is an extremely self-limiting way to look at player actions, and i think someone trying to make a read outside of that construct isnt necessarily scummy or bad for doing so
 
Idk, this definitely isn't the first time we asked her to please stop fluffing and start solving, and I don't think I've ever seen her go back to the very start of the game in response
 
By her own admission she's pretty tired, and she's also kinda tone deaf at times so I don't think it's farfetched to assume she'd think it looks natural for her to go back to the very start of the game and (over)analyze a few posts from there in order to look like she's solving

Tbh this is where i think this argument dies - if you think shes scummy outside of that then have at it, but how do you differentiate that interpretation from one where shes innocent, given the parameters youve put forward?
 
this wasnt your original point though. your original point was you dont think aurelian would take a swing at ratchet out of the gate. you've basically changed what your point was after it was called out kek
This feels like SLIMY framing tbh I think nibel was pretty consistent there. Yes he expanded on his thoughts but nothing that contradicted anything he said/did earlier
 
Sure thing

A very basic assumption is that if i do X as town, but im not doing it here, then that points towards being scum

Or alternatively, if i do X as scum, but im not doing it here, then that points me being town

What im saying is that this is an extremely self-limiting way to look at player actions, and i think someone trying to make a read outside of that construct isnt necessarily scummy or bad for doing so
Oh okay I understand now thx

I suppose from that perspective her read on me might be more believable. I'm kinda leaning it to be genuine anyway, I think she understands me and my issues from last game pretty well and I'm almost certain she's not the type to fake that understanding in order to fake a read on someone. I'd like to think that she'd consider that kind of read underhanded and almost cruel to a degree.
 
relaxed joking vote. gad can go either way. he tends to be more relaxed later game as scum because he gets a little cocky over holding a cushy position in the thread when he's not the main focus and getting drenched in suspicion


tweet normally extends upon his reads, he tends to be in the background while developing info on plays. i sense he wants to take more of a firm and string presence to lead here, seems eager enough given his other posts


ekko. just that. it's ekko

as for tempest's vote, he's not coordinating with ekko per se. it's through the lens of seeing it as the most optimal direction to take (which i assumed correctly). he just happened to agree with ekko, i think ekko in this instance is honestly irrelevant to him.

am comfortable town reading tweet, nulling gad and ekko (need to see more from both), soft lean town on tempest
why is tempest town for the same reason i am null for

why r u solving just cuz poyser asked for it, id have liked it more if u just tell him to fk off
 
This feels like SLIMY framing tbh I think nibel was pretty consistent there. Yes he expanded on his thoughts but nothing that contradicted anything he said/did earlier
This guy. I don't think he would attack Ratchet that soon as scum.

Yeah, I remember that. I've been talking scum for that, and I was right. Last game, he used the fact that Ultra was going for Ral to say Ultra was going for LHF. Here, it looks like Aurelian is searching for some reactions from Ratchet.

Aurelian was scum last game and he needed a reason and an excuse to push Ultra. The reason was that Ultra was pushing Ral and the excuse being "Ultra is going for LHF". The logic here is that Aurelian feels the need to justify his push when he's scum and feels less the need when he's not.

this wasnt your original point though. your original point was you dont think aurelian would take a swing at ratchet out of the gate. you've basically changed what your point was after it was called out kek

???
 
jesus christ
got my laptop. poyser requested more proactivity from me, that proactivity wound up being too much. i get why this evolved the way it did. you guys are correct, this is partial appeasement. i encourage people to ask questions like poyser is doing. i'm not gonna mindread what needs to be gone over, fuck that crap


so i'll start where and what i think is relevant instead for me

pologies 4 a lengthier post

i already went over nibel's entrance there and why it's a positive

but nibel i will ask what gives the impression fang isn't too cowardly to take a swing at ratchet from the getgo? it was basically a non-vote. i'm not sure what this entails. arguably at most it's a careless and arbitrary vote. i'm going to say fang is officially a coinflip player now and can go either way. not sure if i have a good grasp of his scum play here quite yet. think the next question that should be asked is if fang was reaction fishing or it was just a vote to toss out

2 things i want to go over the most:
@Aurelian what's the reason for voting ratchet?

@Ratchet can you elaborate on your thoughts over sky a bit more? same goes for poyser. like tweet poyser is actively solving here and well within his town range imo. is it just a vibe read?
as for the read on me, as town you normally scumhunt me in order to engage and determine whether my reactions are in my town range or scummy. why did you tr me off the bat?
Aurelian was scum last game and he needed a reason and an excuse to push Ultra. The reason was that Ultra was pushing Ral and the excuse being "Ultra is going for LHF". The logic here is that Aurelian feels the need to justify his push when he's scum and feels less the need when he's not.
ral what's the reason for liking this post specifically. are you in agreement with all of it or do you agree with portions of it?


huh
its funny because i replied and then when i went back, realised you said "nvm i dont like this" whilst quoting nibel in the very next post and i felt stupid for even quoting u

now u reply like you still hold the opinion ?
i didn't really digest this post until now, mea culpa. i'm not as confused as why you were confused later on now kek

now im gonna work on olf stuff before work, thank you. ill be here periodically
 
he pretty clearly changed his reasoning lmao. whether you think its scummy or not, its undisputed fact based on his posts
 
why is tempest town for the same reason i am null for

why r u solving just cuz poyser asked for it, id have liked it more if u just tell him to fk off
I'm not really sure what to make of her posts tbdean, she comes off a bit self-defeated and frantically posting all over in her typical town-meta.

You and Craig are both town off vibes.
 
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