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Poyser said:
Well in order for that to happen, it would mean she claimed without asking for advice on whether 1) she should even claim anyway and 2) what she could claim
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Yes true HOWEVER

We had a repeat of this in the last game she was scum, immediately claiming from 1 vote and Orca asking her to claim

So yeah I can see a timeline of her not checking her role pm/mafia group pm/whatever and taking a role that wasn't hers to use as a fake claim out of clumsiness lol
 
Emil said:
i mean i was the first to identify watson as possible scum and consistently wanted her dead before her slip regardless of few surging hiccups. if that's not enough gonna just say skill issue

also whys nibel that strongly out of poe again?
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You weren’t really that consistent tho were you, by the time you came back and said you’d wanna lynch Watson, she wasn’t in any danger and i was L-1, in part down to you leaving your vote on me, who was pushing Watson when you voted. You tried to move away from scum reading her twice prior to that

Nibel is pretty out of his scum range, and was also a lot more consistent on Watson than you were
 
Aurelian said:
We are addressing her play, are you not at all familiar with her meta?
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You just said your point was that she claimed a role she didn't have. We can see that by her flip. What you're doing is adding paranoia to a clear, and I suspect it comes from seeing Ekko give you that opening.
 
Ratchet said:
It's a large part of why I don't think her primary defenders are scum, alongside my thoughts aligning with theirs. It was largely considered that after her claim, she was town, by us at least - but for scum, this risks a 2 for 1, so I think scum would probably want to mitigate the damage early.
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I get the point but I don’t think they’d abandon defending her after already defending her. That would be jarring in itself, and then looks bad in hindsight when she’s claimed a role that she’s not got. I think gram and tempest were both kind of boxed in by the time she claimed.
 
Ratchet said:
You just said your point was that she claimed a role she didn't have. We can see that by her flip. What you're doing is adding paranoia to a clear, and I suspect it comes from seeing Ekko give you that opening.
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Which would mean that Fang/Ekko less likely to be aligned I guess.
 
Emil said:
i mean i was the first to identify watson as possible scum and consistently wanted her dead before her slip regardless of few surging hiccups. if that's not enough gonna just say skill issue

also whys nibel that strongly out of poe again?
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Also, saying you were first to identify her as possible scum is very disingenuous. You made a joke about her first post and didn’t vote. You only voted when cp took up your post and voted for her. If you were serious about your original post - you’d have voted her first
 
i was also pretty active day 2. and i know exactly what result to tell watson to give. i can tell her say this word for word "your target went nowhere" or "your target visited none"

i was the first person to comment on her slip a minute after it happened so i was also online at the time of it to tell her what to do

am i using this to clear myself - no. because i know shes capable of fking up like that even if someone broke it down to her

also watson claimed during NA hours. gram ratchet couldnt be there to help her. they might not have told her what to claim yet and she claimed in her own accord. cp wasnt there until later at night etc.. this whole thing shudnt be clearing anyone..once again stop playing like a muppet
 
Poyser said:
I get the point but I don’t think they’d abandon defending her after already defending her. That would be jarring in itself, and then looks bad in hindsight when she’s claimed a role that she’s not got. I think gram and tempest were both kind of boxed in by the time she claimed.
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Tempest actually started scum reading her, then moved back - could have jumped back on after she botched the claim. Might not be clean but I'm sure they could get there - my overall sentiment is that the longer she's alive, the greater risk 2 mafia get outed for 1. I really don't think they see Watson in that position and decide "yes, that's who I want to hitch my wagon to". And it should be noted, the main defence, from Gram especially, came after her claim.
 
Aurelian said:
Yes true HOWEVER

We had a repeat of this in the last game she was scum, immediately claiming from 1 vote and Orca asking her to claim

So yeah I can see a timeline of her not checking her role pm/mafia group pm/whatever and taking a role that wasn't hers to use as a fake claim out of clumsiness lol
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Did she not check with her teammates in that game?
 
Poyser said:
Also, saying you were first to identify her as possible scum is very disingenuous. You made a joke about her first post and didn’t vote. You only voted when cp took up your post and voted for her. If you were serious about your original post - you’d have voted her first
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it wasnt a joke. her vote wasnt good because she saw a joke vote by gad before it and copied it. i found it a nervous entrance by her

the only joke i did was vote cp right as i entered, and that was before i read watsons post

also whose to say... cp can be scum too!!
 
Ratchet said:
You just said your point was that she claimed a role she didn't have. We can see that by her flip. What you're doing is adding paranoia to a clear, and I suspect it comes from seeing Ekko give you that opening.
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Uhhh, no. You can take that perspective but it's built from a faulty line of reasoning. I was pushing Watson all game and tunneled her there in till she got lynched in the last phase. I don't even know where you see Ekko as scum or equity between me and him when the last phase EoD you were asking me and Ekko not to have you in our PoE.
 
Ratchet said:
Tempest actually started scum reading her, then moved back - could have jumped back on after she botched the claim. Might not be clean but I'm sure they could get there - my overall sentiment is that the longer she's alive, the greater risk 2 mafia get outed for 1. I really don't think they see Watson in that position and decide "yes, that's who I want to hitch my wagon to". And it should be noted, the main defence, from Gram especially, came after her claim.
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I don’t really agree with the bottom part, he was pretty active in his defence of her before the claim. He just said she was 99.9% town after the claim

Tempest started defending her and pushing me before her claim too iirc
 
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