Brutus when he's posting looks genuinely lost. But that won't carry him much further. I think between him and Alco, at least one is scum. Alco's vote on Watson bothers me, because as scum, I would expect him to only bus here when he needs to. He would be a good team mate and help get Watson over if he could. They could as well both be scum.Brutus on the other hand came in late on day 1, admitted they had not caught up and voted Watson and left. Then on day 2, they didnt vote at all…. Hmmmmmm
Another host error then? Lethal voting two different people.
Lethal being on two vanity wagins, both on flipped scum.
If anyone can pullup their reads on those two people to see if it is a town PoV or a scum distancing, it would be nice.
Sparkles was outed, no way scum dont bus there. If it is true that scum dont defend each other here, then lethal, jigsaw, rugrat, magic and tweet may as well be all non holiwood avarice here. Specially cause as low effort scum, they wouldn't risk looking bad for not voting outed scum Sparkles.
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Xmas Mafia End of Day 1 - Hope
Day 1 Final Vote Count
Pqwerty 5 - Rugrat, Jigsaw, Sparkles, Alexis
Melkor 16 - Ratchet, Poyser, Chuck, Ekko, Arne Slot, Pqwerty, Aurelian, RDK, Prof, Ultra, Fuji, X, Tpein, Watson, Tweet, Flower
Jigsaw 1 - Tweet
Watson 7 - Magic, Guillo, GoddessBlade, Melkor, Lappland, Alco, Brutus
Sparkles 1 - Lethal
X flipped scum by the way. He voted Melkor, you have left him uncoloured for some reason.Hmmmmmm
I just missed himX flipped scum by the way. He voted Melkor, you have left him uncoloured for some reason.
Why is Magic, Jigsaw and Tweet coloured in Red?I just missed him
Im just world building on the basis that scum would bus here. If they do, then vanity wagons on day 2 could be all from town.Why is Magic, Jigsaw and Tweet coloured in Red?
Ok. If this is multiball we are fucked.Lethal has effectively a very narrow scum range. At this point I can more or less read him based on his attitude in about 10 posts so. I don't think he's scum except in the odd event this is multiball, the only time I've seen him with a scum performance that was good was when he rolled traitor
Ok.Brutus when he's posting looks genuinely lost. But that won't carry him much further. I think between him and Alco, at least one is scum. Alco's vote on Watson bothers me, because as scum, I would expect him to only bus here when he needs to. He would be a good team mate and help get Watson over if he could. They could as well both be scum.
What makes them scummy to you?Why are Lapp and Tweet Town?
I would ideally get both of your claims. But GTH I'd say I'm seeing it more likely Magic is town. His claim wouldn't hurt though. And neither would yours.So why do you want Magic's claim if you think he's more likely town than I am? You don't want my claim?
I'm more nudged with your response here in the direction you are either an indie or some kind of third-party alignment. But I'll be way more clear: why should I have you as town vs the possibility of you being an indie or mafia?I don't know what you're even asking me here. Are you asking me to explore the idea that I'm an Indie, when I obviously know what I am already? That's your job to make the case for it, I'll be happy to explain to you where you went wrong after you've done so.
Why wouldn't it? If you have correct reads and aren't among players that have mislynched townies, and are positionalyl safe from being mislynched, and given your typical strong position in most games, usually you'd be an early target. Poyser and Ultra typically get killed night 1 or 2 when their town and solving, at least in Ultra's case in this game we have a reason for him being around still. And I mean the case for Poyser being offed is also there.Also, I do have to say, this is why you are so often wrong. Your premise of your suspicion on me is that I could be bussing, which isn't an argument that justifies suspicion,
As I said before several strong and vocal town players have been killed since the start of the game:it justifies not town clearing my slot. What you constantly miss is that not being town cleared doesn't mean you must suspect the slot. In all of this, the only point you've come close to arguing that actually stands as a point of suspicion, is that I'm not dead. And given that several other slots that could be dead by now are not, that isn't all that strong an argument. And also, by saying that I should have been killed by scum, you are admitting that I've played well enough for the town to warrant a kill - yet somehow, that doesn't even move the needle for you as to why I might be town.
I'm not going to compromise on who I town read vs who I don't.I know you wont listen, and will instead screech about how you'll never take anything from what I'm offering, because that's who you are, but this Aurelian is why you end up where you often do. Because you make no attempt to actually shrink the PoE. We are in Day 3 and have 3 scum dead, with 2 more lined up, and you have a grand total of 5 town reads. It's not good enough.
i am town because because he probably read my postsWhy are Lapp and Tweet Town?
So why do you want Magic's claim if you think he's more likely town than I am? You don't want my claim?
I don't know what you're even asking me here. Are you asking me to explore the idea that I'm an Indie, when I obviously know what I am already? That's your job to make the case for it, I'll be happy to explain to you where you went wrong after you've done so.
Also, I do have to say, this is why you are so often wrong. Your premise of your suspicion on me is that I could be bussing, which isn't an argument that justifies suspicion, it justifies not town clearing my slot. What you constantly miss is that not being town cleared doesn't mean you must suspect the slot. In all of this, the only point you've come close to arguing that actually stands as a point of suspicion, is that I'm not dead. And given that several other slots that could be dead by now are not, that isn't all that strong an argument. And also, by saying that I should have been killed by scum, you are admitting that I've played well enough for the town to warrant a kill - yet somehow, that doesn't even move the needle for you as to why I might be town.
I know you wont listen, and will instead screech about how you'll never take anything from what I'm offering, because that's who you are, but this Aurelian is why you end up where you often do. Because you make no attempt to actually shrink the PoE. We are in Day 3 and have 3 scum dead, with 2 more lined up, and you have a grand total of 5 town reads. It's not good enough.
That doesn't answer my question.What makes them scummy to you?
Also doesn't answer my question.I would ideally get both of your claims. But GTH I'd say I'm seeing it more likely Magic is town. His claim wouldn't hurt though. And neither would yours.
That's up to you to argue. You're the one who needs to read me.I'm more nudged with your response here in the direction you are either an indie or some kind of third-party alignment. But I'll be way more clear: why should I have you as town vs the possibility of you being an indie or mafia?
Which is?at least in Ultra's case in this game we have a reason for him being around still.
Clearly.So I'm not sure what your saying
Ask them?Mafia would know pushing your lynch would be hard, so why not kill you?
Flower, if Indie, would have no TMI on my slot. So her decision to kill me or not to kill me, has no bearing whatsoever on my alignment.Why wouldn't Flower kill you if your town? Example if she is already in most peoples PoE lists, wouldn't her helping get rid of you even if it puts more pressure on her slot or she gets lynched be worth it for her team?
There are 20 players. You have 5 town reads. Aside from the 4 you listed, there are a further 10 slots that you could have reads on, that are all "in PoE" according to you. So instead of focusing on those four, how about getting reads on the other 10 that you can actually commit to? Stop being a massive coward and hold some positions please.I challenge you to give me any logical reason why I should be able to narrow the PoE down and read Alco, Rugrat, Brutus, Jigsaw, etc...as town for ??? reasons other than shrinking list of suspects and going blind from there.
Yet you never voted for Goddess, not even hunch wise. Like if you have this info you kinda come forth with it right away you know.This is a hard claim.
I'm a 2x alignment cop.
I checked @GoddessBlade on night 1 and she is aligned with Hollywood Avarice.
I checked @Flower on Night 2 and she is aligned with Yule Terrors
I don't know if Yule Terrors is another group party or just a neutral, but those two are evil and not together.
I was on Sparkles Day 1.Another host error then? Lethal voting two different people.
Lethal being on two vanity wagins, both on flipped scum.
If anyone can pullup their reads on those two people to see if it is a town PoV or a scum distancing, it would be nice.
Sparkles was outed, no way scum dont bus there. If it is true that scum dont defend each other here, then lethal, jigsaw, rugrat, magic and tweet may as well be all non holiwood avarice here. Specially cause as low effort scum, they wouldn't risk looking bad for not voting outed scum Sparkles.
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