Brutus when he's posting looks genuinely lost. But that won't carry him much further. I think between him and Alco, at least one is scum. Alco's vote on Watson bothers me, because as scum, I would expect him to only bus here when he needs to. He would be a good team mate and help get Watson over if he could. They could as well both be scum.
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Lethal has effectively a very narrow scum range. At this point I can more or less read him based on his attitude in about 10 posts so. I don't think he's scum except in the odd event this is multiball, the only time I've seen him with a scum performance that was good was when he rolled traitor
.guillo
Exceptional
Hmmmmmm
X flipped scum by the way. He voted Melkor, you have left him uncoloured for some reason.
.guillo
Exceptional
I just missed him
Why is Magic, Jigsaw and Tweet coloured in Red?
.guillo
Exceptional
Im just world building on the basis that scum would bus here. If they do, then vanity wagons on day 2 could be all from town.
.guillo
Exceptional
Ok. If this is multiball we are fucked.
We cant win this game at the rate we are dying at night.
.guillo
Exceptional
Ok.
What makes them scummy to you?
I would ideally get both of your claims. But GTH I'd say I'm seeing it more likely Magic is town. His claim wouldn't hurt though. And neither would yours.
I'm more nudged with your response here in the direction you are either an indie or some kind of third-party alignment. But I'll be way more clear: why should I have you as town vs the possibility of you being an indie or mafia?
Why wouldn't it? If you have correct reads and aren't among players that have mislynched townies, and are positionalyl safe from being mislynched, and given your typical strong position in most games, usually you'd be an early target. Poyser and Ultra typically get killed night 1 or 2 when their town and solving, at least in Ultra's case in this game we have a reason for him being around still. And I mean the case for Poyser being offed is also there.
Magic? Sure.
You can argue he's also another player that should've been the focus of scum getting rid of and not letting him linger around.
As I said before several strong and vocal town players have been killed since the start of the game:
- Craig
- Poyser
- Ekko
- Prof
- RDK
So I'm not sure what your saying or why you think it contradicts my suspicion. Scum can play with TMI, so too can a hostile indie or third-party alignment that isn't town or mafia. Why would those five be dead but the you aren't? Alexis was instructed to protect Ultra, was he not, the last day phase? Why would, in the situation you are town, be left alive to case and solve players in PoE if your town? Mafia would know pushing your lynch would be hard, so why not kill you?
My premise isn't "you aren't town cleared" to suspect you, my direction is that its odd you have no reliable reason for being alive in face of fact that you had no idea protecting you and simply letting you linger around?
Why wouldn't Flower kill you if your town? Example if she is already in most peoples PoE lists, wouldn't her helping get rid of you even if it puts more pressure on her slot or she gets lynched be worth it for her team?
I'm not going to compromise on who I town read vs who I don't.
This is a 30 player game.
And potentially a multi-ball set up.
I challenge you to give me any logical reason why I should be able to narrow the PoE down and read Alco, Rugrat, Brutus, Jigsaw, etc...as town for ??? reasons other than shrinking list of suspects and going blind from there.
You want more, then fine:
- T-Pein doesn't bus his teammates.
- Alco doesn't have any real presence since after day 1
- Evans is dead
- Rugrat has warranted what to not remove him from PoE?
- Flower is outed as a hostile
- Kiku is confirmed as non-town/hostile
Sure I'd feel comfortable nudging Magic and Lethal more solidly into town.
What else is there? Do you think I need to take a blind leap of faith from your words alone to broadly expand my town reads?
Lappland
Distinguished
i am town because because he probably read my posts
That doesn't answer my question.
Also doesn't answer my question.
That's up to you to argue. You're the one who needs to read me.
Which is?
Clearly.
Ask them?
Flower, if Indie, would have no TMI on my slot. So her decision to kill me or not to kill me, has no bearing whatsoever on my alignment.
There are 20 players. You have 5 town reads. Aside from the 4 you listed, there are a further 10 slots that you could have reads on, that are all "in PoE" according to you. So instead of focusing on those four, how about getting reads on the other 10 that you can actually commit to? Stop being a massive coward and hold some positions please.
Lethal
T.B.A
Yet you never voted for Goddess, not even hunch wise. Like if you have this info you kinda come forth with it right away you know.
I was on Sparkles Day 1.