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Dross

What are your counters to the points i brought up?

You can check any of her recent town games, she's spamming asking about read lists from just about everyone. She's much less dialed in.
That she’s not spamming for reads list? I don’t have a counter. You also notice I haven’t said she can’t be non town or something. I just don’t see her as likely aligned with Melkor rn.
 
My read won’t change on Ultra. I’ll think he was just wrong.

What I’m telling you, is I realize my case is not clearly defined or particularly strong and is pretty instinctual and vibe based here. Part of it is drawing comparisons to you looking and feeling the same to me as you did in HP. So going tic for tac about the things I’ve said isn’t really going to do much for me bc that’s going to do nothing to address this core feeling. Now that may seem unfair, but if you are hunting scum and stuff that’s the best way for me to find you town.
I'll just say this about Ultra, he's been wolf before and tried to push me early based on 'vibes'. I got a bad feeling last day when he brought up that I could be a deep wolf and then let you do the arguing with me. He also mentioned Poyser to try and get him on me too, someone he knows I've had battles with. Just felt like he threw my name out there and let others do the work. If I flip, don't just think Ultra is wrong, consider what I've said.

Alright Prof, fair enough. I don't think it'll be productive for either of us to keep this. I also don't want to clog things up in thread. Let's hunt.
 
Alright so Flower didn't actually start going for Melkor after I started casing him so that's not at all impossible.

To be fair I dont think anybody else was either. i wouldn't be terribly surprised if Melkor was proactive in telling his mates to bus him because there was like zero people town reading him.
 
If Flower's scum she folded into bussing Melkor very easily and without showing much of a hint of looking for other opportunities

That she’s not spamming for reads list? I don’t have a counter. You also notice I haven’t said she can’t be non town or something. I just don’t see her as likely aligned with Melkor rn.
I just went through her posts again.

She barely interacted with melkor and it took awhile for her to even vote him after sussing him for a bit.

She also formatted it in a way that we should go after melkor after a Watson flip. Before sleeping She also left her vote on Watson.

Think flower makes sense as more likely aligned with melkor in that sense. Definitely not seeing a lot to suggest they're not aligned.
 
Dross

What are your counters to the points i brought up?

You can check any of her recent town games, she's spamming asking about read lists from just about everyone. She's much less dialed in.
I don't think it is dross. Melkor generally doesn't like buddying mates. In fact I don't think I can recall him ever doing it without specific instruction. I'll need to see the actual buddying, but unless he broke tack there I think it's a good defence fir Flower, independent of her own meta. Woukd agree otherwise, though, that there are issues with her play that would indicate her being scum.
 
I also want to say that I feel that Craig kill comes from Ekko more so than it coming from a framing position. I don't know why else Craig would be getting shot N1.
 
Vote Lynch Melkor.

Are we still pressuring Melkor?

This guy will never vote sparkles

Seems like you’re awfully pressuring him a lot too do that yet not doing it yourself.

Melkor seems like town getting bullied tbh.

He wasn’t the only one sussing me yesterday, i can’t read Melkor so I just ignored it, sussing me felt fine on surface level.

Poyser also noted Melkor was very averse to voting for Sparkles btw
 
I just went through her posts again.

She barely interacted with melkor and it took awhile for her to even vote him after sussing him for a bit.

She also formatted it in a way that we should go after melkor after a Watson flip. Before sleeping She also left her vote on Watson.

Think flower makes sense as more likely aligned with melkor in that sense. Definitely not seeing a lot to suggest they're not aligned.
The part for me was how Melkor handled her rather than vice versa. I didn’t bother to ISO her last night. Just Melkor and anyone his posts pointed me to.

I’m not really planning to do a bunch of defending of Flower here, and I know she ended up leaving voting for Watson.
 
I'll just say this about Ultra, he's been wolf before and tried to push me early based on 'vibes'. I got a bad feeling last day when he brought up that I could be a deep wolf and then let you do the arguing with me. He also mentioned Poyser to try and get him on me too, someone he knows I've had battles with. Just felt like he threw my name out there and let others do the work. If I flip, don't just think Ultra is wrong, consider what I've said.

Alright Prof, fair enough. I don't think it'll be productive for either of us to keep this. I also don't want to clog things up in thread. Let's hunt.
This feels like a townie X post to me.
 
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