Dragon Ball Discussion Thread: MBXX Ultra Ego

Gordo

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They also chose black for Black Freeza because a black credit card is better than a golden one
 

Gordo

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New chapter is surprisingly great

Trunks is a fun lead (while Goten is still a lackey but now he’s Goku 2.0 in the brains department). Regardless Trunks stomped the shit out of the Beta android and now Hedo’s obsessed with him

he’s using Trunks and Goten as an inspiration and a power benchmark for Gammas 1 and 2 (which I guess is a nice lore bit that Toriyama and Toyotaro came up with, the boys are the reason the Gammas exist)
 

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@Terry @Crimson Dragoon

The Sun has Ki. Stars have Ki. That's what this is telling us, right? So we can infer someone like Cell is comparing himself to the ki he senses from shit like the rest of the Star System? :hm

This is what I'd be doing with YYH fyi if it was more cut and dry.

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Goku clearly interacts with that shit when he forms the Genki Dama whereas we don't know for a fact Sensui or Genkai could sense Earth's ki for comparison :hm

Also, as an aside, the YYH official and fan translations suck. Leaves out the reference Ningenkai/The Surface in Sensui's rant entirely in Viz, but the fan version inserted random fraction bullshit that didn't exist at all. Same deal with the Genkai shit between the two.

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And Goku's Ki appears to determine the gathering of the Genki Dama's, ergo you can probably scale the speed of the shit to Goku's own ki? :hm
 

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The Sun has Ki. Stars have Ki. That's what this is telling us, right? So we can infer someone like Cell is comparing himself to the ki he senses from shit like the rest of the Star System? :hm

And Goku's Ki appears to determine the gathering of the Genki Dama's, ergo you can probably scale the speed of the shit to Goku's own ki? :hm


Basically, Yanagita and his Fantasy Science Reader series the Japanese equivalent of all those Science of Superheroes/Star Trek/Harry Potter books. Their main draw for me is the copyright-friendly illustrations provided by Yutaka Kondo. pic.twitter.com/F27X4NtACv
— Todd Blankenship (@Herms98) May 3, 2022
Here the text that the user translated herms98 about:

Yanagita says that the human body is mainly composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen. If Majin Buu is of this matter, and weighs about 100kg, destroying him at the atomic level should require energy equivalent to burning 250,000 tons of oil.
Here on earth, the population is about 7.8 billion, so if the series is the same, we can round up to 10 billion to account for all the Namekians and all that. Finally, dividing 250,000 tons of oil by 10 billion means an average energy contribution of 270 kcal. That’s about the same amount of energy someone weighing 79kg burns running 3.8km. Coinciding thus with what Vegeta says. The actual range in which one may actually be able to gather energy for the Genki Dama is not quite clear, whether there exists an innate restrictive range that one alone may be able to reach or if it is a range that is dependent upon the skill of the technique's user, but what appears to be certain is that the range does seem to depend upon the user's ability to sense the energy they are seeking to borrow. For Gokū, he demonstrated the act of borrowing energy from planets near Namek on his own, and years later, managed to acquire energy from the living beings on Earth with the help of the Kaiō of the North's telepathy.

chars who are > kid buu since genkidama erased kid buu, def scale to that level of speed, thats how i have it
 

ChaosTheory123

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Yanagita says that the human body is mainly composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen. If Majin Buu is of this matter, and weighs about 100kg, destroying him at the atomic level should require energy equivalent to burning 250,000 tons of oil.
Now that's just stupid given that's treating the matter like its ordinary matter not enhanced by Ki :hm

You're talking a franchise that started with an old fuck nuking a mountain and never looked back

Still, neat to see every country has their own variation of this silly bullshit
 

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Honestly the whole “Goku and Vegeta cause a supernova” thing in DBO gives more credibility to Cell’s solar system busting claim

But by EoZ Goku is already strong enough to beat Buu in base…and presumably Vegeta as well if it’s suppose to be a competitive fight between the two

So meh
 

Gordo

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You know, I always wonder

Would Yakon have lightspeed reflexes for eating light :whathekong
 

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You know, I always wonder

Would Yakon have lightspeed reflexes for eating light :whathekong
Talking about Lightspeed itself there many FTL speed such like how Frieza and Goku reacted to Namekian Dragon Ball.

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Radits transmitted data about his death to Nappa and Vegeta nigh-instantly over deep space with scouter.

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Goku move so fast even scouter can't made reaction toward him until second later.

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Goku on Namek was stated by Vegeta to be moving so fast the scouters couldn't pick him up, which is impressive because Raditz transmitted data about his death to Nappa and Vegeta nigh-instantly over deep space.


It would take Nappa and Vegeta 1 year to reach earth, while it would take Earth's fastest technology 4339 years and 3 months to reach Namek, and it would take Goku's ship 6 days to reach Namek, which operates on the same Saiyan technology.

Vegeta after his zenkai from Recoome most likely replicates this feat next, since he blitzed and destroyed most of the Ginyu force, and could destroy Ginyu using Goku's body, as well as being able to challenge first form Frieza.

What do you think about this @ChaosTheory123 ?
 

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Might be worth considering higher for Piccolo's moon feat :hm

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"There are many moons throughout the galaxy, but no matter their size, blutz waves will not exceed 17 million zenos unless they're reflected off the round, unobscured surface."

So, we just have to determine when the moon became "obscured" to derive the time frame for when Gohan would have transformed back I guess *shrugs*

So, probably about the time Piccolo's blast encompassed the thing entirely.

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We can then just work out the time frame from the speed at which light and shit travels, because that'd be the time when Gohan starts to transform back.

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Would really depend on seeing if "unobscured" is in the raw or not though.

Any thoughts? :hm
 

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Might be worth considering higher for Piccolo's moon feat :hm

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"There are many moons throughout the galaxy, but no matter their size, blutz waves will not exceed 17 million zenos unless they're reflected off the round, unobscured surface."

So, we just have to determine when the moon became "obscured" to derive the time frame for when Gohan would have transformed back I guess *shrugs*

So, probably about the time Piccolo's blast encompassed the thing entirely.

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We can then just work out the time frame from the speed at which light and shit travels, because that'd be the time when Gohan starts to transform back.

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Would really depend on seeing if "unobscured" is in the raw or not though.

Any thoughts? :hm
neat
 

Gordo

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I’ve wondered before if the whole “create an artificial moon” thing can be calced
 

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Probably not, given the light will reach that 17 million Zenos bullshit regardless of the size of the moon. It's probably something to do with a component of the moon's lux, which is substantially lower than the Sun's so not really worth a look especially at the surface area that particular artificial one is radiating.
 

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Talking about Lightspeed itself there many FTL speed such like how Frieza and Goku reacted to Namekian Dragon Ball.

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Namekian Dragon Ball following Namek Race to Earth.
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We just need to discuss whether or not Freeza is moving his arm between panels while the Dragon Balls are in motion, because the perspective makes it harder to pinpoint.
Radits transmitted data about his death to Nappa and Vegeta nigh-instantly over deep space with scouter.

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Goku move so fast even scouter can't made reaction toward him until second later.

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Goku on Namek was stated by Vegeta to be moving so fast the scouters couldn't pick him up, which is impressive because Raditz transmitted data about his death to Nappa and Vegeta nigh-instantly over deep space.


It would take Nappa and Vegeta 1 year to reach earth, while it would take Earth's fastest technology 4339 years and 3 months to reach Namek, and it would take Goku's ship 6 days to reach Namek, which operates on the same Saiyan technology.

Vegeta after his zenkai from Recoome most likely replicates this feat next, since he blitzed and destroyed most of the Ginyu force, and could destroy Ginyu using Goku's body, as well as being able to challenge first form Frieza.

What do you think about this @ChaosTheory123 ?
Not sure about the scouter one. At best, it would inform us about how fast he can power up, so spread Ki throughout his body.

Might be something you can use, given you can compare it respective to how many Raditz fight Piccolo’s he can generate unnoticed in ki in that moment and beyond?

That said, not sure if the ability to transfer the information between scouters would be the same tech that is used to detect Ki in the first place *shrugs*
 
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