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DBZ/GT Toeiland power

at least country+/quad digits 23rd budokai chars, plus some relativistic+/lightspeed attack speed feats from the previous arcs, lol :mjlol

psure, if you recalc the piccolo moon feat, is going to be planet+ levels, this time = raditz oneshots more verses as well :mjlol
So that means 23rd Budokai characters stomp 99% of NNT, even without the moon feats, right?
:mjpls
 
the fact that somehow legos still escaped the one ki blast test


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they too fast after all, raditz can't tag ftl+ yet 4 feet opponents, not his manga version :maybe
 
the fact that somehow legos still escaped the one ki blast test
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they too fast after all, raditz can't tag ftl+ yet 4 feet opponents, not his manga version :maybe

So that's now out there~
 
dont stop until universal gt is accepted 👍
Funny thing is I called the translator out for his poor English but he tried to get cheeky :maybe

I tried to find a better scan of it but no luck atm


Yep

Asked MShadows (a far more reliable translator) on Nardoforums and he confirmed it’s literally saying Gogeta’s power rivaled the Big Bang’s

I believe it’s in reference to this scene

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At the very least they have Big Bang level power, scaling off Gogeta:mjlol
 
So that's now out there~


remember the scan i posted, with lol daimaio being 260 and supposed lol kami being 220, somebody at kanzenshuu cleared it, after searching a bit

The Daizenshuu never stated such a thing. That is based on Weekly Jump listing Piccolo Daimao at 260 while Kami is only 220. However the Weekly Jump doesn't provide a context, so it's hard to tell if it is a mistake or not. If we'd like some way to write off Kami's allegedly-erroneous 220 power level from that Jump chart, we could always say that since it's from the Saiyan arc like most of the other numbers on there (Popo as well, possibly being so high from training with the humans), then maybe his power had degraded somewhat since back then. He could have been like a 300 to Piccolo and Goku's 250 at the time. People can get weaker over time, especially ancient and somewhat decrepit folks like Kami.

so yeah, it comes to scenario we said before, that this lol kami being at 220, is the weakened/rusty one and not in good shape
 
remember the scan i posted, with lol daimaio being 260 and supposed lol kami being 220, somebody at kanzenshuu cleared it, after searching a bit



so yeah, it comes to scenario we said before, that this lol kami being at 220, is the weakened/rusty one and not in good shape
I think they might have based it on Kami's assessment he was going to die within the next year

That Toriyama proceeded to forget about after reviving Piccolo (to be fair, he left the door open for Kami to have it be about Piccolo biting it due to the Saiyans OR him dying of old age)

I digress though
 
remember the scan i posted, with lol daimaio being 260 and supposed lol kami being 220, somebody at kanzenshuu cleared it, after searching a bit



so yeah, it comes to scenario we said before, that this lol kami being at 220, is the weakened/rusty one and not in good shape
I think they might have based it on Kami's assessment he was going to die within the next year

That Toriyama proceeded to forget about after reviving Piccolo (to be fair, he left the door open for Kami to have it be about Piccolo biting it due to the Saiyans OR him dying of old age)

I digress though
Kami got weaker while Mr Popo powered up to 1,030 (makes sense, he was the one who trained the humans not Kami, so Popo effectively trained with them)

These power levels came out during the Vegeta fight (that’s why Vegeta’s power level is listed at “Impossible to Measure”)
 
Anyways

23rd BT Goku’s official power level is listed at 910. It doesn’t elaborate if it’s for the Super Kamehameha or not, but I think that’s clearly meant to be the case. The Super Kamehameha against Raditz was over 924

That solidly let’s him scale to Piccolo’s Moon buster
 
does that mean during beginning of Saiyan Saga about him fighting raditz he don't get strongest ?
BoZ Goku isn’t much stronger than 23rd BT Goku

Kid Goku/King Piccolo was 260. BoZ Piccolo was 322

There’s only a 23% power difference there, and we know Kami is stronger than King Piccolo but still weaker than 23rd BT Piccolo. That means the gap between 23rd BT Goku/Piccolo and BoZ Goku/Piccolo wasn’t very big
 
Anyways

23rd BT Goku’s official power level is listed at 910. It doesn’t elaborate if it’s for the Super Kamehameha or not, but I think that’s clearly meant to be the case. The Super Kamehameha against Raditz was over 924

That solidly let’s him scale to Piccolo’s Moon buster
We’re discussing Monaito to Flayk and Monaito at 213 isn’t exactly far up the food chain

But yes, obviously the Super Kamehameha with if taken at that level should outmatch what Piccolo can fire without charge
 

Well, that was awful to format~

EDIT - no shit it was, it just about hit the 50,000 character limit :skully
 
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Super Saiyan Goku's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan Vegeta's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan Vegeta's Big Bang Attack

The Feat

To Be Determined

Piccolo Jr's Makūhōidan

The Feat

To Be Determined

Piccolo Jr's Gekiretsu Kōdan

The Feat

To Be Determined

Semi-Perfect Cell's Big Bang Crash

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Vegeta's Final Flash

The Feat

To Be Determined

Perfect Cell's Kamehameha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Perfect Cell's Kiai

The Feat

To Be Determined

Perfect Cell's Perfect Barrier

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 2 Son Gohan's Kamehameha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Perfect Cell's Solar Kamehameha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Not much else here worth considering looking at later. Mecha Freeza's lone feat was a generic AOE explosion. Android 20's Bionic Punisher is a generic set of explosions. Piccolo's Ki Blast vs Imperfect Cell was similarly generic in Ginger Town. I have no fucking clue how to even try gauging Android 16's Hell's Flash. Like, whatever volume it effected, it was out of sight and underground. Perfect Cell's Kiai vs Gohan was lesser to look at than the one against Goku on account it just broke the rock formation rather than pulverize the ground. No real need to cover Semi-Perfect Cell's Self Destruction either.

This is mostly a place holder (ergo, no blog) for when I get around to this shit (who the fuck knows when, Bleach still has a few of those "To Be Determined" feats in bold and all :maybe). Uploading the scans takes the longest amount of my time, might as well get that out of the way shrugs
 
Innocent Majin Buu's Zenshinkara no Shōgekiha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Majin Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta's Final Explosion

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Flame Shower Breath

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Finger Ki Blast

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku's Ki Reaches The Kaioshin Realm

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Majin Kamehameha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Chōbakuhatsuha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan Gotenks' Speed

The Feat

To Be Determined

Evil Majin Buu's Guilty Flash

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Buu's Revenge Death Bomber

The Feat

To Be Determined

Gotenks Absorbed Super Buu's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Kid Buu's Chikyū Hōkai no Ichigeki

The Feat

To Be Determined

Son Goku's Super Genki-dama

The Feat

To Be Determined

Can't really think of anything else super notable to gauge for Majin Buu's Arc. Bullet catching for Super Saiyan Gohan is a neat bit feat, but a bit feat it is. Super Saiyan 2 Son Goku and Majin Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta collapsing mountains/rock formations in the distance with their shock waves is nice, but not really easy to measure. Super Buu's Jinrui Zetsumetsu Kōgeki lacks a meaningful time frame, though it was likely short given context. Guess you have these feats for Mr. Satan?

This is mostly a place holder (ergo, no blog) for when I get around to this shit (who the fuck knows when, Bleach still has a few of those "To Be Determined" feats in bold and all :maybe). Uploading the scans takes the longest amount of my time, might as well get that out of the way shrugs
 
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Innocent Majin Buu's Zenshinkara no Shōgekiha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Majin Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta's Final Explosion

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Flame Shower Breath

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Finger Ki Blast

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku's Ki Reaches The Kaioshin Realm

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Majin Kamehameha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Innocent Majin Buu's Chōbakuhatsuha

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan Gotenks' Speed

The Feat

To Be Determined

Evil Majin Buu's Guilty Flash

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Super Buu's Revenge Death Bomber

The Feat

To Be Determined

Gotenks Absorbed Super Buu's Physical Might

The Feat

To Be Determined

Kid Buu's Chikyū Hōkai no Ichigeki

The Feat

To Be Determined

Son Goku's Super Genki-dama

The Feat

To Be Determined

Can't really think of anything else super notable to gauge for Majin Buu's Arc.

This is mostly a place holder (ergo, no blog) for when I get around to this shit (who the fuck knows when, Bleach still has a few of those "To Be Determined" feats in bold and all :maybe). Uploading the scans takes the longest amount of my time, might as well get that out of the way shrugs
Ya gonna try the anime version at some point
 
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