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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Adamant soul

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Giving Digimon shit for being a "kid's show" while stanning Dragon Ball Super. :heston

Like he does realize DBS especially is a kid's show as well right and in fact, is much closer to what most people mean when they use the term "kid's show" in the derogatory manner it's normally incorrectly used to insult the material? :mjpls

"But they totally need the ability to specifically erase IMMORTALS or they're fodder."

That's not how that works, Zamasu was literally killed by existence erasure in canon and MANY Digimon can do that.
Zamasu ain't shit to Digimon.
 

Adamant soul

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Just help me settle this real quick. Someone somewhere else started this debate. Im fairly certain Sith got this low/no diff due to massive power differential. However I'd like some confirmation here first before I tell them.
Also if someone could just quickly outline some of the high-end feats by the sith that would be neat.
Lucas Star Wars, Warhammer boys, how does this one actually go?
From the little that I know of Warhammer, I think he is right that the Sith win but I don't actually think it's that easy.
 

Doronbo_Shirake

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Giving Digimon shit for being a "kid's show" while stanning Dragon Ball Super. :heston

Like he does realize DBS especially is a kid's show as well right and in fact, is much closer to what most people mean when they use the term "kid's show" in the derogatory manner it's normally incorrectly used to insult the material? :mjpls

"But they totally need the ability to specifically erase IMMORTALS or they're fodder."

That's not how that works, Zamasu was literally killed by existence erasure in canon and MANY Digimon can do that.
Zamasu ain't shit to Digimon.
I'm surprised he hasn't used the "Zamasu survived Zeno's erasure in SDBH" yet.
 

Proto234

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Lucas Star Wars, Warhammer boys, how does this one actually go?
From the little that I know of Warhammer, I think he is right that the Sith win but I don't actually think it's that easy.
@Top59 Might be able to explain it better, but from what I know, the latest Horus Heresy novel puts Emperor (also Chaos Horus) as Galaxy level to Universal level at best.
Afaik, no Sith is on that level. Even Sheev is only galaxy level at best
 

Top59

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@Top59 Might be able to explain it better, but from what I know, the latest Horus Heresy novel puts Emperor (also Chaos Horus) as Galaxy level to Universal level at best.
Afaik, no Sith is on that level. Even Sheev is only galaxy level at best
By feats they are Solar System+ level, with power scaling by slightly damaging the 4 Chaos Gods as a side effect it could be Galaxy level, it depends how we want to take it.

Then there are statements that they were close at a universal level, they were close to ascending to a Chaos God and was specified to destroy the universe or create a new universe.
 

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Honestly at this point I really question what the author even considers aoe in overlord, he notes the city district wiping nuclear blast is one of the best aoe spells even without widen doubling it, we see creation cover a far larger area (Covering several kilometers) And now he just randomly revealed two years ago ainz has a spell that can just straight up end a country.

I suspect the real answer comes down to how he writes these things. Nuclear blast is "One" of the best aoe spells, allowing him the wiggle room to always add larger/more ridiculous spells.
 

Proto234

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By feats they are Solar System+ level, with power scaling by slightly damaging the 4 Chaos Gods as a side effect it could be Galaxy level, it depends how we want to take it.

Then there are statements that they were close at a universal level, they were close to ascending to a Chaos God and was specified to destroy the universe or create a new universe.
And as per Guilliman, Emperor as of 40k is stronger than he was at HH isn't it?
 

Salfarc

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Remember when this people argue that catching 1 bullet equal to catching 12 bullets and claim all variable are pointed out, but the spread isn't? Finally the mod replies back.

They really insisting on catching 1 bullet equal to catching 12 bullets.
 
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SupremeZaarin

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Lucas Star Wars, Warhammer boys, how does this one actually go?
From the little that I know of Warhammer, I think he is right that the Sith win but I don't actually think it's that easy.

Which Sith organization? The Sith led by Revan? Vitiate? Naga Sadow? Krayt? Exar Kun? Etc.

Or is it actually every single Sith organization in history combined?
 

Proto234

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Which Sith Empire? Revan? Vitiate? Naga Sadow? Krayt?

Or is it actually every single Sith empire in history combined?
From the opening post, seems the Sith Lords themselves. Without their empire.

So basically all known Sith Lords like Sheev, Vitiate, Nihilus and so on without their army and dark jedis (but with their apprentice)
 

Adamant soul

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Which Sith organization? The Sith led by Revan? Vitiate? Naga Sadow? Krayt? Exar Kun? Etc.

Or is it actually every single Sith organization in history combined?
I don't know, it isn't specified, he seems to believe the Imperium outnumber them and that's the ONLY thing that would make them a challenge, while they can't harm the Sith (which even I'm pretty sure is nonsense).

I'm pretty sure if it were every Sith Empire, the Imperium wouldn't be outnumbering them, so I'd assume it's just the Sith themselves.
 

SupremeZaarin

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From the opening post, seems the Sith Lords themselves. Without their empire.

So basically all known Sith Lords like Sheev, Vitiate, Nihilus and so on without their army and dark jedis (but with their apprentice)
Ah, okay.

So a composite Sith entity?

I don't think the IOM can even permanently kill this combined Sith entity.

Heck, it took every single dead Jedi in history to actually stop Sidious. And even then, they couldn't destroy his soul. The best they could do was the imprisonment of his soul in the netherworld of the Force.

A combined Sith entity would have to be exponentially more powerful than Palpatine at his peak.
 

Proto234

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Ah, okay.

So a composite Sith entity?
That or all sith lords gathered together and challenge IoM.
Which if IC, will results in their self destruction lol, they hate each other (Kreia certainly is)

As for your second post, Emperor able to vanquish Horus' soul which backed up by Chaos Gods permanently.
That part shouldn't be an issue.
 
Didnt Naruto in the movie beat Toneri who split the moon? Not sure Quetz can top that. Though I agree with the rest.

Quetzalcoatl literally creates a STAR in her hands with everyone that entails and it was able to destroy a substance that requires energy on the level of destroying a Planet to get rid of(The Primordial Sea/Grail Mud).
She alone is enough for everyone in the Narutoverse.


Piedra Del Sol: The Sun Stone
Rank: EX
Classification: Anti-Army~Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasm
Range: 10~99
Maximum Number of Targets: 900 people
Piedra Del Sol (Aztec Sun Stone). Quetzalcoatl’s trump card. The megalith of the ancient Aztecs. The Aztec calendar that is said to show all the world’s past and present. This megalith with a 3.75-meter diameter appears overhead, this being a “gate”, and it drags out a portion of Quetzalcoatl’s Authority because of Quetzalcoatl, who as a Divine Spirit herself is the great source of this activity. Intense solar winds rampage over a vast range, and they will certainly be reflected as god’s majesty itself.

If you have no idea what Solar Winds are or how hot they can be, I suggest you look it up.

Where do you get all this numbers wtf. This is one of the main reason why I dont like people using "calc". What are the validity status of all of this numbers?

The ridiculous part is that you don't even NEED the calcs, the story itself literally tells you that the 2nd strongest Meteor fragment fell into the Northern Pole and erased 12% of the Ice there or the size of Spain and if it fell anywhere else, it would cause an irreversible shift of Earth's Rotation.
That would make it from Country+(Which IS the bare minimum) straight up to Multi-Continental(The Highest) to do that level of damage to the Planet... and Gugulanna effortlessly stops the last one entirely. There is zero need for a calc but the only reason someone is doing is just to pretend he can stretch down the lowest end when the highest end was already established and you can't walk back on that.
 
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"Hurr Durr Soul King's a God and shit, surpassing him wouldn't make any sense." :facepalm

Literally right after getting his true Zanpaktou, Ichigo is strong enough to fucking one-shot someone who'd absorbed and become the new Soul King and that's while not even being at full power. Sure that version of Mustache is still weaker than the Soul King, but to sit there and pretend there's NO WAY or that it wouldn't MAKE SENSE for Ichigo to surpass the Soul King when he's this strong already is just absurd. :hestonpls

The funny part is that Ichigo wasn't even at his full power even THEN during his fight with Soul King Yhwach as he yet to get a full handle on using his Hollow Powers at all and even then, it's halfassed at that. :jordangif

So yeah, Adult Ichigo is gonna be some absolute fucking nonsense as I'm 100% certain he finally mastered that part and there's implication Ichigo isn't gonna stop getting stronger either.
 

Top59

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And as per Guilliman, Emperor as of 40k is stronger than he was at HH isn't it?
Yes but he is referring to his psychic power and probably the entity/God that he became, not the corpse.

In Lion's novel we can see that in fact the God Emperor is fighting against the 4 Chaos Gods at the same time in the Warp.

It is also known that the Dark King is not yet born but the Dark King will be born and that he will be the Emperor.


There is no explanation and it is more of a theory but considering that Sanguinius is based on Jesus and the Archangel Michael, Horus is based on Lucifer and the Emperor is based on the Christian God, it is probably a kind of Trinity.

Instead of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, it would be the Emperor of humanity (the one who led the Great Crusade and who is now a corpse), The God Emperor of humanity who was born by the faith of humanity and exists in the Warp and the Dark King who represents the ruin of humanity.

This gains strength because during the Heresy when the Emperor still walked and forbade prayer to him, Keeler was guided by the God Emperor himself (not the mortal) and performed miracles.
 

Salfarc

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Such for being a board about agrees with hard science and the laws of physics huh?
Yes there is a rule for this, something they dont seem to follow yes. It feels like this is some kind of a sham court. Perhaps they want to give illusion that they are going to change their infraction to me. I still want to see where is this going though.

Who knows maybe they'll admit they are wrong. Though, right now its getting late and I wanna sleep.
 
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