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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Paxton said:
I'm honestly surprised Nursery Rhyme is arguing for some sort of grounded/street level version of Project Moon when we literally see a star-filled dimension get blown up on-screen.
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This is the same Nursery Rhyme that believes that the UA Training Facility is somehow the size of a City and that's how far Bakugo's blasts went to even BEFORE his final Zenkai...
This is also the same Nursery Rhyme that downplays the most obvious feats in the Nasuverse because "He knows better than most"(Including being the one who helped shit on anything Heracles does because "it's not that impressive with context").

Again, Nursery is one of the biggest dogshit debaters in the VS. discussion and that speaks volumes considering the huge level of competition from in there.
 
B Rabbit said:
It was Freddie. lol

Thank god for these new JoJo translations. I remember reading the early 2000's ones.
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he got kinda weird about people saying GER would beat Ajimu or something I guess? But then he would also just argue shit while forgetting what he actually read. It was pretty funny, I got nothing against him.
Astaro said:
Arguing GER makes a whole new universe for Diavolo to die in is quite the leap in logic mever insinuated, let alone proven.

I just see him as randomly dying around the world
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I don't entirely disagree but Trish's convo with Giorno near the end doesn't make it seem like he can't be in the same space they are in. It's a moot point either way, the KC stuff is enough for me. I don't think it would make GER multiversal anyways, it would just back up the universal interpretation.
 
though you can also argue that all Diavolo's deaths are just shown in the future and we flashback to when he's still alive when Trish and Giorno are going back and forth so


idc honestly
 
OtherGalaxy said:
no clue but the current official translations kinda shoot that argument in the foot even more than the various fan scans did. Diavolo specifically says King Crimson "obliterates time from the universe" now when he uses his ability lol. The matter of whether Diavolo is in another universe made by GER or not can be debated (fan TLs say he's not returning to "reality" indicating it's a new space GER made but official says he won't return to "the truth"...there's some synonymity with them in the context of the arc but it's not a hill I feel like dying on right now)
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Is there a scan for this?
 
@Gordo found it
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Astaro said:
Arguing GER makes a whole new universe for Diavolo to die in is quite the leap in logic mever insinuated, let alone proven.

I just see him as randomly dying around the world
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That makes no sense at all because we are never given a single idea that Diavolo is "dying around the world" when Trish explicitly looks over the Canal where Diavolo fell into and still feels his presence.
It's more heavily implied that he's not in the Universe anymore in a major sense.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
That makes no sense at all because we are never given a single idea that Diavolo is "dying around the world" when Trish explicitly looks over the Canal where Diavolo fell into and still feels his presence.
It's more heavily implied that he's not in the Universe anymore in a major sense.
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I think it depends on which TL you use

The JJCA one leans more towards Diavolo not being in the same space. Giorno says he will never return to reality. But the official ones just say he will never arrive at the truth. They sort of mean the same thing in the context of the story, but it's still a big jump to try and argue about it being a new universe. I'm not against that interpretation, it's just also got a lot of gray area to where it's not a hill I'm gonna be spending a ton of time defending, especially when we already have King Crimson's statement about how its powers work on a universal scale anyways.
 
OtherGalaxy said:
I think it depends on which TL you use

The JJCA one leans more towards Diavolo not being in the same space. Giorno says he will never return to reality. But the official ones just say he will never arrive at the truth. They sort of mean the same thing in the context of the story, but it's still a big jump to try and argue about it being a new universe. I'm not against that interpretation, it's just also got a lot of gray area to where it's not a hill I'm gonna be spending a ton of time defending, especially when we already have King Crimson's statement about how its powers work on a universal scale anyways.
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True but the deal with being removed from Reality and "never arrive at the truth" combined with Trish still only feeling his presence at the Canal but not having him actually disappear from there definitely speaks to some insane bullshit going on that's more than just him somehow still being on Earth.

Eyes Over Heaven also seems to go with that take as well.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
True but the deal with being removed from Reality and "never arrive at the truth" combined with Trish still only feeling his presence at the Canal but not having him actually disappear from there definitely speaks to some insane bullshit going on that's more than just him somehow still being on Earth.

Eyes Over Heaven also seems to go with that take as well.
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you can also just argue his deaths are shown to us in future tense and aren't happening concurrent with Trish and Giorno's conversation (as Trish can sense Diavolo is alive, that would mean during that dialogue the hobo shank may not have even occurred yet). That's what I mean about the gray area, there's a lot of room for different interpretations here and I get people feeling it's a big jump.
 

Use your brain for literally half a second.

If Nagant's bullets are as powerful as you believe, and Yuta is as weak as you are postulating, it's far more likely that the bullet overpenetrates and leaves a clean, extremely small hole rather than a gaping wound because the bullet would meet so little resistance, it'd slide through like it's sailing through air. Now she still needs to go for his brain or heart. Truly, how much has changed.
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That doesn't even begin to make sense even in real life, let alone fiction...
Someone please tell this man that humans are primarily made of water and how truly damaging a anti-personnel gun is to a living person... or just show that scene of John Rambo firing at the Burmese with a .50 Calibur Machine Gun...
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
That makes no sense at all because we are never given a single idea that Diavolo is "dying around the world" when Trish explicitly looks over the Canal where Diavolo fell into and still feels his presence.
It's more heavily implied that he's not in the Universe anymore in a major sense.
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Or that he’s in the limbo state GER put him in of neither being fully alive or dead, hence why Trish still feels him out there
 
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I never bought Diavolo being sent to another universe, there’s nothing that actually shows that in the story
 
It’s a stretch too given GER’s ability is to nullify the effect behind cause and effect, not send people to other universes let alone make them.

If anything, it’s the laws of nature in JoJo taking effect of someone whose dead but can’t actually reach their death, hence them being subject to endless scenarios of dying without actually reaching that point
 
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