Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Xhominid The Apex]

What makes this sudden Tezcatlipoca wank so insane isn't just that Ritsuka defeated him with Daybit head on, Tez even admits he would lose in a battle against Camazotz even before Camazotz's Immortality can be considered... and again Ritsuka defeated him in a head on fight

AND STILL NOT BEING A TRUE MASTER AT THAT

Like none of this makes sense, it's like saying that no one can defeat Jiren because you take a part of the story out of context... despite motherfuckers being at Jiren's level or surpassing him in the case of the DBS Manga.

 

[Paxton]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/stats-equalised-match-kid-buu-vs-blackbeard-vs-kaguya-vs-yhwach-vs-agnologia-vs-shigaraki-afo-vs-lucius-vs-muzan-vs-sukuna-vs-death-devil.1158553/

Man what in the fuck is this.

Yhwach going ham on the others, that's what it is

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-dragonborn-skyrim-runs-the-modern-weapons-gauntlet.1156546/page-8?post=100757137#post-100757137

more of mook dumbassery

"Bethesda never would have intended this"

Meanwhile the actual author intention as repeatedly stated by the devs;

Skyrim Interview with Todd Howard

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“He does find out. There’s an event that happens with a dragon, where you find out you’re dragonborn. I think for anybody listening, it won’t matter, ’cause they know.”

“The greybeards, the guys who live up on the throat of the world, who are the masters of the voice, they find out about this fairly quickly, and they shout your name. They shout Dovahkiin to the wind, and it kind of rumbles through the world. The mountains shake when they call you. And you think ‘what was that,’ and someone says ‘that was the greybeards calling you. To walk the 7,000 steps up the throat of the world to meet them.’”

“I have been promised 7,000 steps, and I am going to count them. Our world artists are amazing. We have just an amazing team, and they put so much detail in the world, so they didn’t blink when I said ‘it MUST HAVE 7,000 steps. When you look at all the stuff we have in the world, 7,000 steps obviously is not that hard.”

6:06

Todd Howard: And you'll see coming up here, gonna use the Shout Storm Call. This is one of the more powerful Shouts in the game. And it calls a storm with lightning that's gonna rain down on your enemies. So it's really a nice way to let the player feel...feel powerful in a unique way.

0:17

Todd Howard: Your character is Dragonborn, and this means you are born with the soul of a dragon. So you can speak their language and in the language of dragons they use their language to form these mystical shouts, these words of power. Breath fire and shout through the wind and run fast, or slow down time. So, through the course of the story, not only do you discover the mystery of the dragons returning but you learn their language and become, you know, really powerful.

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Lawrence Schick: It's not just Earth with some magic guys casting spells, right. The nature of reality is fundamentaly different in the world of Nirn, because it's based all the natural laws come from the sacrifices that the Aedra made when they made the world. So Akatosh, when he put himself into the world, he made time happen, right, and so forth and so on with all the different gods. So you've got this really seriously interesting mythological background about the nature of reality and how it was created, and how it can be changed, because it's not set forever. It can be further changed by those who can channel magicka and force their will upon it. Right, that's what magic is. Changing reality locally...sometimes locally usually temporarily but you're changing reality, and creatures and characters and beings of mythological levels can change reality in big ways! And that's what happens when you get a Dragonbreak, or a planemeld, or an Oblivion Crisis, or Alduin coming back from the depths of time. You've got reality changing in big ways. At the same time, you've got all of these people who unlike in sorta your standard medieval setting, they look at things in a very logical and scientific and organised fashion. You've got all these sages, you've got the mages guild researchers, you've got the scholars, and they're all breaking stuff down, and it gives a way...

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AusGamers: Now you’re also concentrating on the northern area of Tamriel and obviously the Nord race is really tied into this and that’s the guy that you’ve been showing off. What’s the thought process for players that don’t ever play as the human characters and don’t care about that lineage for that particular race? What are you doing to invite them to becoming Dragonborn as well and does the game-world react to different races based on them being Dragonborn?

Todd: Well no matter what race you pick, you are Dragonborn. We’re kind of showing this guy because he’s very on-the-nose for the tone of the game so that people can understand it easily. But you can be any of the races; you can be an Argonian lizard who is Dragonborn and sorry I forgot the other part of the question... oh how do they react? It’s mostly a flavour thing. There’s a little bit of, this is a little bit harder, you can’t do this with a race but only a little bit -- it’s more dialogue flavour than anything.

Then you do have different powers based on which race you pick. So your skills start out differently, then each of the different races has their own powers, like some cool special abilities.

 

[Paxton]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-dragonborn-skyrim-runs-the-modern-weapons-gauntlet.1156546/post-100757137

Just read over Mook's latest sperg fest and uh...

"You can't even become a vampire until DLC"


You cannot make this shit up LOL

 

[Astaro]

He might have meant Vampire Lord but yeah

 

[Masterblack06]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/goetia-f-go-vs-every-playable-guest-character-in-fortnite.1158643/

@Xhominid The Apex

someone thinks Goetia can resist the infinity gauntlet cause "immune to instant death"

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/goetia-f-go-vs-every-playable-guest-character-in-fortnite.1158643/

@Xhominid The Apex

Yeah, nah, that dude is getting snapped.
I saw that thread, remembered that Goku is in it and being like yeah no, Goetia dies.
It's funnier that I forgot Thanos is in there too and I'm pretty sure so is Superman and like 2-3 others who can stomp Goetia to shit.

 

[King of time]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/can-muzan-kibutsuji-survive-warhammer-40k.1158538.

 

[King of time]

Yhwach going ham on the others, that's what it is

Buu kill him

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-3?post=100794868#post-100794868

Chaldea probably has access to Queen of Sheba now admittedly, but back in the days of Salem Chaldea with multiple days of prep did nothing to Raum's barrier compared to the Queen's weakening effect.

Ignore that Queen of Sheba's existence fucking with SHEBA was a well known thing to the point it's part of her Interlude due to their connection causing havoc in Chaldea in a funny way. And again, Raum isn't no weak motherfucker in the fashion of how he created that Bounded Field in the first place...

Tezcatlipoca needing to beaten with U Olga Marie's help.

Again, Tezcatlipoca stated he couldn't defeat Camazotz... which Ritsuka did and U-Olga Marie never fought him and Tez lost to Ritsuka with Daybit as support in a genuine fight.
PLEASE stop trying to act like the Servant Tezcatlipoca is stronger than anyone else as that's not true.

Admittedly he's a grand servant,

So you fucking admit that you was hiding context outright and now basically let that shit loose now? You knew you was wrong and anyone could call you out on that shit because it was well known since LB4 he was a Grand Servant and it was all but stated to be him.

but he got beaten in by Fujimaru all the same at the end of LB7

So what the fuck is with you stating that "No Servant in Chaldea" can defeat him... when Ritsuka did in a straight up battle against him WITH DAYBIT as backup?! That would require Shadow Servants, my guy.

You also have Morgan greatly improving on Chaldea's techniques simply due to being a genius, learning how to Rayshift without a coffin in a very short timeframe.

Absolutely NOTHING has shown that Morgan in any fashion has helped with Chaldea's tech or magical capabilities... not a single time. Hell if anything, the Storm Border became as ludicrous as it did before we even went into Britain.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-3?post=100795864#post-100795864

Sure, but Chaldea still had their summonable Servants on standby and were unable to create something exceeding Queen of Sheba's natural traits despite having days of prep, which they don't have here.

Chaldea somehow doesn't have the prep or knowledge to make something exceeding Queen of Sheba's natural traits
They have the Servant herself who has full control of her natural traits and powers

This doesn't even make sense because:

1. SHEBA still exists!
2. Trismegistus makes that absolutely fucking moot anyway

Of course, Chaldea's roster increase since then, but my point is that the magi, inventors, and scientists that Lucian is hyping up are pretty much irrelevant against things on the scale of Fairy Tail top tiers.

So the logic that Imaginary is going with is that because Chaldea didn't create a SHEBA that goes beyond Queen of Sheba's capabilities(Which is funny because the entire existence of SHEBA's true purpose was to rein in the Demon God Pillars as only Goetia trusted Sheba... something no one else knew:

Due to its sophisticated technology, SHEBA displays limited sapience when it is able to summon the Queen of Sheba to the Salem Singularity using its name as a catalyst. Consequently, when the Queen of Sheba is present in Chaldea, her emotions appear to be synced with the machine, which reflects when she is under emotional duress. Unknown to Chaldea at first, this is because its true purpose was to act as an overseer of the Demon God Pillars on Goetia's behalf, and was programmed to restrain them if any of the Pillars attempted to defy Goetia's will. The Queen of Sheba had been summoned not because of her name, but because she was the only human that Goetia trusted.[15]

Means that somehow, some fucking way, they cannot create things to deal with stuff in Fairy Tail? Imaginary truly is the dumbest motherfucker alive...

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-3?post=100796533#post-100796533

My point is that Queen of Sheba's passive ability to manipulate her surroundings outperformed everyone Chaldea had access to at the time, and her ability was inherited by a Djinn, and Djinn(Demon Gods) can be beaten by individual normal Servants

That was because Sheba the Servant was fucking with SHEBA the device due to them being connected through Goetia having the machine be made through Lev as a sign of respect to her! No one knew of that function of SHEBA till Sheba was in Chaldea.

Otherwise, this is some absolute fucking reaching because what the hell defines a "Normal Servant" in this dude's eyes? Because we know for a fact that "Normal Servants" need to be in pairs of groups to defeat ONE Demon God Pillar and you have the truly exceptional Servants that can actually defeat one on their own.

Chaldea never really has a good prep feat, and they have virtually no time to prep in this battle.

Ah yes, Chaldea never had a single good prep feat despite the very existence of Chaldea surviving to the Lostbelts is due to Chaldea being able to do some actual fucking prep. That the reason they are able to even enter and do shit in certain Lostbelts is because of fucking prep time. That the very goddamned reason they aren't dead after Tunguska is due to prepping for shit in advance. Somehow, they are terrible at Prep Time despite Da Vinci making a decent Camo Covering in LB3 at short notice amongst many other things I could bring up if I really wanted to...

It's still better than all of the feats the Caster class combined has.

... Seriously, I keep saying it but it's true:
Imaginary is the dumbest motherfucker in Spacebattles by a country mile...
The Caster Class Servants was able to make a barrier that required no less than a Divine Construct to effortlessly cut through it as they did.
The Caster Class Servants that helped with the Nautilus in LB5 which is the reason everyone didn't die instantly.
Or the Dream Catcher Geronimo made just to capture Salem Abigail so she wouldn't abduct Ritsuka in her Interlude.
Or the fact that Edison and Tesla's insanely ridiculous shit in the recent Lotto Event is something they could actually realistically do if they had the time.
I could go on and on and on but it's absolutely ridiculous that this dude is lying out of his ass when one of the most obvious gags is that Kiyohime had a Love Potion just for Paracelsus to have stated that not only did he make a genuine Love Potion, he also made an antidote to the very thing he made as he knew what it would be made for.

None of this is hidden or hard to find, Caster Class Servants have been integral into keep Chaldea afloat in many ways or helping out in others.

There are servants who can rayshift, but not through pure magecraft alone- unless you define Qin's ability as magecraft.

Doesn't that destroy your Morgan wank if there are other ways to Rayshift than how Morgan does it with Magecraft? Fucking imbecile...

 

[King of time]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ultra-magnus-idw-vs-muzan-demon-slayer.1158607/

 

[Qinglong]

Animated Ultra Magnus would beat KnY, never mind IDW

 

[OtherGalaxy]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/ultra-magnus-idw-vs-muzan-demon-slayer.1158607/

i cannot think of a single way for this to be fair, wow. at least they didnt use the cartoon

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-3?post=100799668#post-100799668

Chaldea in LB7 are literally in ideal conditions due to the underworld border

Let's just continue ignoring:

• Ritsuka fucking died and lost their Mastership reviving due to Tez
• Due to losing their Mastership to Tez, he gave it to Camazotz to do with as he will
• Camazotz then uses those Command Spells to force the 4 Servants Chaldea summoned under his command, Altered and put into the Underworld Borders

Chaldea had absolutely nothing to do with any of that in Lostbelt 7.

Salem too, although they have less versatility.

They was not prepared in Salem, what is this fucker talking about?! All they had was the barest of minimums of knowledge of the Bounded Field Raum put up and that's it. They knew nothing of how ridiculous the rules was or his plan and how to deal with it. Not to mention Chaldea was on the verge of shutting down and most of the Servants was gone, they was the anti-thesis of prepared.

I am aware. The scenario is now what is the weakest force Chaldea could mobilize to deal with to deal with all the Fairy Tail antagonists. I'm arguing that based off of their canon showings, no force is sufficient

That is the biggest lie I have ever heard, especially when they are not fighting the entirety of Fairy Tail's forces, just the bad guys... which hilariously makes the "fight" even easier.

They had the ability to summon any Chaldean servant up to that point.

Only against ORT did they fully show that ability, otherwise it was the Bakin Event where we get something similar with Tametomo's bullshit NP.

Fujimaru too, by extension. Despite that, throughout all of LB7, they never displayed anything exceptional by Servant standards and struggled with pretty much all their enemies. Even if theoretically they can amass a large amount of caster servants and create some type of prep combo, they never do so either in Epic of Remnant where they have actual time to prep or in Lostbelt 7.

Again, jackass loves making shit up and it's easily proven that he's wrong if anyone knowledgeable just calls him on his shit...
Like I said before, using Salem and LB7 as them being "most prepared" only shows Imaginary has either never read any of those or is lying his ass off.

But like, outside of all that, Chaldea in the main story has not shown anything explicitly that could deal with Zeref at his strongest where he has limitless magical energy and can rewind time to heal all wounds.

Yes, it's not like Chaldea somehow cannot siphon off the ridiculous Magic in Fairy Tail and basically have Servants around indefinitely like in LB5, no way... oh wait.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-3?post=100801945#post-100801945

They kind of did exactly that for the Beni Enma Alter confrontation, although Fujimaru didn't have the capacity to summon Gilgamesh fully at that time.

Mmmm, I wonder why Ritsuka couldn't fully summon Gilgamesh at that time... maybe it's because they wasn't a Master at that time? And could only make do with a Shadow Servant?

Fionn was even there to give them advice, like without even being called on.

MMMM, I wonder why that's the case again?! And besides, doesn't this make your argument even more fucking retarded to keep using it?

It's just that giving Koyanskaya magical energy was considered a better use of the Storm Border's resources apparently.

A Divine Spirit+ being is more beneficial to Chaldea than using the Storm Border's resources while it's wrecked and under repairs to trying to forcefully summon multiple Servants to a Masterless person

...

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I'm gonna touch on this part of the thread because this is also extremely stupid for many reasons proven in the franchise itself:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/chaldea-fgo-invades-fairy-tail-world.1158394/page-2?post=100792834#post-100792834

Uh, sorry to say, but Arc has a concept of death. When under the Full moon, she's supported by the planet, which makes her immortal( and her feats are pretty basic regarding immortality). That's why Shiki can't see or understand her lines.

Arc's Concept of Death is so small, it's basically a waste of time to even try killing her with MEoDP unless you drastically weaken her first...

Zeref not only can't be killed by soul destruction but also Existence erasure and things like Warping Physics with the Law spell. What makes you think Shiki can even begin to understand his lines of death?

This really does show that people have no idea how the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception truly works...

The Mystic Eyes of Death Perception show the death of things, the weak points where everything is most easily broken and the imperfection in everything that will break down one day. They can be said to see the fate of all things, seeing the future, allowing them to see death.[10] While there is a difference as to when a person or object will "end," it is certain that they will all arrive at that point because death is not something that "arrives," but rather is something already contained within an object at its creation and certainly bound to happen as part of the principle of causality.[1] For these reasons, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can be considered the ultimate form of Foresight.[11]

Anything with an origin must have an end, a "time of death" determined at the beginning, and as it already exists, it is not impossible to comprehend such a concept with the appropriate circuit in the eyes and brain, allowing them to be viewed as though a microscope. It is normal that cutting a living being's neck would kill them, their life stopping because it was cut, and conversely not being able to cut a being's neck would mean that they will not die. The eyes can ignore the cause, instead allowing them to kill even that which is immune to all external effects. That which is cut falls apart and that which is "killed" becomes "dead," but rather than "tracing the lines causing the object to fall apart" and the object becoming dead because it was cut, it is "ending the lifespan and killing the object." It is the erasure of existence rather than physical destruction, so the object is "stopped" and the cut is the end result.[12]

Again, what's actually happening is that you are not just "killing" someone with the MEoDP when you cut their lines or stab them in the dot, you are effectively seeing their "end". In the most simple terms I can state:

If Shiki Tohno or Ryougi uses MEoDP, they are not really in effect killing you but bringing your predestined "end" earlier than usual. This is why beings that have "No Concept of Death" is not someone whose immortal or cannot die but someone who doesn't have an endpoint at all which is why Arcueid's lines of Death seem so weird and why Ultimate Ones just plain don't have one known to mankind(And why Araya Souren is so damn hard to kill even with that).

Zeref has an end: His Curse finally being lifted, doesn't matter the form and it doesn't matter who(Especially since we know Natsu ultimately kills him) which means he will die if he stabbed in his dot... which he will allow since he wants to die.

 

[One and Only]

Yhwach going ham on the others, that's what it is

Kid Buu blitzes and vapourizes him. Have never actually seen any evidence Yhwank can survive that tbh.

Edit: Oh stats equalised.

 

[seth]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/faerun-vs-the-great-tomb-of-nazarick-dnd-vs-overlord.1156492/page-3?post=100807429#post-100807429

overlord fans trying to downplay dnd. Love the cope they are doing at being presented with dnd characters being faster than overlord

 

[King of time]

https://www.fanverse.org/threads/who-wins-beerus-or-discord-composite-from-my-little-pony.1318318/ discord Poor

 

[Astaro]

I don’t know anything about the dude so I bowed out