Game Ranked Castlevania animated series Mafia - Game Thread

[Ratchet]

@Ratchet did you have any particular thoughts about Luka refusing to claim for a while?

Beyond what I've said already? Not really. I thought he was Indie and still think he could be.

 

[Luka]

Let's brush aside the verbal diarrhea here - what don't you like about my current lead right now, and what am I failing to take into consideration about Ekko

Don't know what you mean by the bolded and it kind of annoys me despite not really knowing the meaning.

For the latter, there are a few slots who's content you're just ignoring in the gamestate (IE: Dolfia, Hime, ect) and the content from those slots you're ignoring to kind of further a FoS on both myself and Ratchet. I don't know much about your angle on Ekko given I'm largely ignoring it, realistically that slot can be scum but it kind of rings like last game in which some of his pushes / logic were lacking (no disrespect intended, I just didn't find said pushes to be towny) and I think this game is more towny than scummy but shrug.

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

vote lynch Emil

 

[Magic]

y is this ur main concern

It wasn't a main concern but it was concerning!

 

[Luka]

Luka - Town

What made you retract the indie read on me?

 

[hime]

Orca: No lynch
Dofla: Orca > Luka
Polar: Emil
Luka: OLU
Ratchet: Magic > Ultra
Hime: Luka
Tempest: Luka
Ultra: Luka
OLU: Luka

Luka: 6
No lynch/Emil/OLU/Ultra: 1

@Flower

can u say how many votes to hammer in the vote counts? its easy dp1 but it gets harder to keep track of in later phases

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Feels like a scum/scum distancing post

You probably should claim

Just hedging now I see

Ima pencil you right below Fang in the "don't call these players scum if you're scum yourself" list jesus

 

[The Orca]

y r bachi and dofla higher town reads than ur brother?
y is polar not green to u?

things change, but at the time the read i was using on Bachi and Dofla were stronger. Polar is always an evolving read. At the time it was evolving into a town shape, but not necessarily there yet

 

[Ratchet]

Kinda getting cold feet about Ratchet having read up to the point where I voted him. If Luka is scum then I can see Ratchet resorting to weird WIFOM strats but if Luka isn't scum then I can't really make much sense of why Ratchet is inviting all sorts of bad attention to himself by acting indecisive and whatnot. Idk

I'm not "acting indecisive", dumbass. I'm trying to get as much as I can from the day - I'm not content to just sit back, watch you claim and then pick from there. Given that we have a further 48 hours I want to see if there are better avenues before you claim. Good God, do you really believe that being town is only about feeling good about getting your way or something? I don't care about getting my way, I care about getting the right answer. It's not being indecisive, it's common sense.

 

[Ultra]

Don't know what you mean by the bolded and it kind of annoys me despite not really knowing the meaning.

For the latter, there are a few slots who's content you're just ignoring in the gamestate (IE: Dolfia, Hime, ect) and the content from those slots you're ignoring to kind of further a FoS on both myself and Ratchet. I don't know much about your angle on Ekko given I'm largely ignoring it, realistically that slot can be scum but it kind of rings like last game in which some of his pushes / logic were lacking (no disrespect intended, I just didn't find said pushes to be towny) and I think this game is more towny than scummy but shrug.

You said my contribution so far was -ev, and you've just admitted you're not even following my cases or my reasoning, which is blatantly bad faith.

I have 0 clue why you think I should give a rat's ass about """gamestate""" and why you're assuming I should be talking about these slots

Lazy discrediting attempt noted

 

[Ratchet]

What made you retract the indie read on me?

I haven't retracted it, I've just used town as not scum basically. I didn't have any Indie reads there despite having suspicion Magic could be one too.

 

[Emil]

The Orca - Town
Polar Bear^ - Town
Emil^ - Town
Chairman Nibel^ - Town
Hans Tweetenberg - Could be Scum
Magic - Null
Ratchet - Town
Lethal^ - Town
Ultra - Could be Scum
hime - Could be Scum
One Last Username - Town
Luka - Town
Xadlin - Could be Scum
Tempest - Town
Psychic - Null
Jesse Pinkman - Null
Bachi - Town
DoflaMihawk - Town

^ Weaker sided reads. I could flip Ekko as he may just be TMI'ing me, but I'm not going to get there today.

Scum PoE so far is Tweet/Ultra/hime/Xadlin, and then Magic/Jesse/Psychic.

I don't think the scum team quite fits as a teams anyway. Ultra and Tweet being together doesn't really make sense to me. I could see hime being aligned with Ultra. Xadlin... I could see the attempt to spin me unvoting Tweet as scummy to deflect from him. Doesn't look great for Tempest either here though because he sees me support his wagon and then what, drops his suspicion? Like @Tempest do you think I'm scum with Xadlin then?

Given the above, Tweet could be the Town in there. At which point I'd probably bring Craig down a level into Null, or maybe into lean scum. I don't think the entire scum team would act in concert here though.

I have Dofla town because he won't be scum with Tweet. If Tweet is Town that read is retracted. If Tweet is scum, Ultra is probably Town, hime could be scum with him (Tweet). I think with all that considered I'm left with a primary PoE of

Xadlin/hime/Tweet
Ultra secondary
And then based on the flips of the above, room for Jesse/Polar/Ekko/Magic/Tempest.

very good
im just gonna address my part from this as i dont have other big reservations for the rest

i dont think its a good use of my thread position to oppose ultra/cp wagons on u as scum instead of join them. i think if u r town and i am scummate with ultra we probably both dont vote u here. im not rly sure whats ultra's end game is today because hes only making himself look bad if u, luka, tweet are all town

at the very least i wont oppose ultra's push on u, certainly not when he's voting me rn

 

[Hans Tweetenberg]

Do you often see people throw out something in that mold and then lead their lynch wagon?

Who are you talking about here? Yourself? I don't even know who you're voting atm

 

[One Last Username]

vote lynch Emil

Go on!…..

 

[Lord Melkor]

can u say how many votes to hammer in the vote counts? its easy dp1 but it gets harder to keep track of in later phases

10 to hammer, it is in the day starting post.

 

[The Orca]

Ima pencil you right below Fang in the "don't call these players scum if you're scum yourself" list jesus

 

[Luka]

You said my contribution so far was -ev, and you've just admitted you're not even following my cases or my reasoning, which is blatantly bad faith.

I have 0 clue why you think I should give a rat's ass about """gamestate""" and why you're assuming I should be talking about these slots

Lazy discrediting attempt noted

I have 0 clue why you think I should give a rat's ass about """gamestate""" and why you're assuming I should be talking about these slots

I used that term to basically describe ISO and context around said posts. I find that you catch 1-2 posts that you disagree with, ignore the intended meaning behind those posts and tunnel on the slots that those posts made this game ignoring actual posts around it that you don't like.

You said my contribution so far was -ev, and you've just admitted you're not even following my cases or my reasoning, which is blatantly bad faith.

It was exactly one case, about 3 posts, I read them and I promptly HENT on the actual content in said posts. In addition to that, given; notably, you are not voting here; one would assume said case cannot the strong to the point where you are willing to abandon other pre-conceptions and push there.

I mean, you forced a town to claim and put them to L3 range, I think your play is fairly -ev fmpov? Like, I don't even know why you're questioning this.

 

[Ratchet]

very good
im just gonna address my part from this as i dont have other big reservations for the rest

i dont think its a good use of my thread position to oppose ultra/cp wagons on u as scum instead of join them. i think if u r town and i am scummate with ultra we probably both dont vote u here. im not rly sure whats ultra's end game is today because hes only making himself look bad if u, luka, tweet are all town

at the very least i wont oppose ultra's push on u, certainly not when he's voting me rn

I think as scum you might not be inclined to support the push on me. So I can rationalise your play as scum from how you've approached this. The crux is though is that regardless of that, you've correctly read me and I think your position makes sense there, which is why even with the disclaimer I have you as town. If too many of my top level PoE flip town, then I'd have to go back and rethink things.

 

[The Orca]

Who are you talking about here? Yourself? I don't even know who you're voting atm

Faking being lost in logic i see. You don't need to know vote counts or even game states to answer the question

 

[hime]

We can't make conclusions about the relations between Luka and Ratchet that soon then. I still think it's interesting and we may keep an eye on them in case of something like this happens this game.

y not