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hime said:
i took the lead in a game that was extremely inactive from the start, yes
NAI, and largely dependent on the environment


also u do realize a large portion of my activity comes between going back and forth between players? not sure how u expect me to do that in a game when literally everyone was ignoring me???? :biden
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And this defence is very contradictory lol. She's defending herself not playing like last game. She points out herself that she took the lead in a game that was largely inactive (kinda true) and then she says that a large portion of her play comes from going back and forth with players and complains about being ignored here. Yet as she says herself, the last game was inactive and SHE took the lead and forced interactions. So people "ignoring her" isn't a defence as the game being inactive didn't stop her from playing that way in the last game. She forced activity
 
Emil said:
sus maybe, but i dont see a push tbh
which is concerning considering the amount of credit u want to attribute urself to this. scum can sus their teammates all the time, its not out of ordinary for u to be partnered in any of the interactions u had with her thus far. hime has also mostly ignored u and ur questions but was combatant against ppl i read town

there is also an inaccuracy here - people didnt unvote hime in anticipation of moving elsehwere or cuz watson was town reading her, they unvoted to avoid quick hammer. you really couldnt have gone anywhere without extremely tying yourself to hime and compromising your late game option. its much better in mountainous to send atleast 1 scum deep and i can see attempts from you trying to get yourself there

also wud like u to respond more in dept regarding watson's town read on hime. whats the gameplan there considering how both players entered the game in day 1. i dont rly see much equity there, just likely wat seems to be town and scum getting too friendly, and the scum being very happy with it
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I rarely play with hard pushes and tunnels, especially when i am playing with new people. There is no "sus maybe". It is plainly "sus". And I have pushed.
I cannot influence how Hime interacts with me. I wonder why tbh

Nah what you are seeing is that you really really really want me to be scum, as in, going by your own admission that you want to tunnel me until 1 of us is dead. It is one of the most tilting gameplays there is, but it is usually what happens when I play as town. Regarding the situation, it doesnt matter the reason why people moved off of Hime. Fact is they did. That is an opening. I do not enter a new site and decide to hellbus my teammate from D1. The only reason why I wouldnt be "able" to "go anywhere without tying myself to Hime" and "compromising myself" is because I am one of two people behind the Hime push. As in, a situation I have been in full control of. Tho it is mountainous, so I could just agree with Watson and move away. Mountainous is for BSing.

I have already responded in dept regarding Watson's town read on Hime. I am not going to invent more reasons just for your liking. But tell you what, IF Hime flips scum, which I am feeling confident on, I can vote out myself tomorrow. I really dont have any patience with illogical and irrational tunnels that announce "1 of us must die", especially not when I have a pelt. And just for the record, I did this the last time when I was town on Syndicate, where I correctly scum read 2 wolves but egged on my own misyeet just so the "I will tunnel you until you die" person was forced to re-evaluate and so I could feel schadenfreude in the ghost chat tbh. So I am serious.
 
Also I entered today immediately sussing Hime. Gave a reason to maybe town read her still, but decided not to at a moment where I could've and pushed elsewhere. This is now how I approach teammates as a wolf
 
Poyser said:
Lol bro, self meta is worthless at the best of times but its 10000% more worthless when you do something and immediately be like "yeah ive done this before as town look here!"
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I don't care lol
I literally have no patience for death tunnels. This isn't self-meta, this is a promise tbh
 
And like I have not done it yet in this game. Just wanted to speed the conversation along from the "you're just making empty threats and AtEing" zone to it being real tbh
 
Boquise said:
Also I entered today immediately sussing Hime. Gave a reason to maybe town read her still, but decided not to at a moment where I could've and pushed elsewhere. This is now how I approach teammates as a wolf
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Ehhhh, this kinda reads like you were looking for something else.

Boquise said:
kinda almost dont wanna vote hime for the last line here even though I feel like she fits the best in killing Ultra tbh

maybe @Illwei is a woof after all tbh
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Boquise said:
are you a wolf tbh
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Problem was that I came in and started talking about hime so you went back to her.
I don't really have you as scum, but gotta say your defence isn't really working for me
 
Poyser said:
And this defence is very contradictory lol. She's defending herself not playing like last game. She points out herself that she took the lead in a game that was largely inactive (kinda true) and then she says that a large portion of her play comes from going back and forth with players and complains about being ignored here. Yet as she says herself, the last game was inactive and SHE took the lead and forced interactions. So people "ignoring her" isn't a defence as the game being inactive didn't stop her from playing that way in the last game. She forced activity
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think she was trying to play this game without bussing teammates so she mostly ignored them i feel like. few interactions here and there but nothing too deep. her last scum game people noted her capability to bus so i feel like shes switching it up here
 
Boquise said:
I rarely play with hard pushes and tunnels, especially when i am playing with new people. There is no "sus maybe". It is plainly "sus". And I have pushed.
I cannot influence how Hime interacts with me. I wonder why tbh

Nah what you are seeing is that you really really really want me to be scum, as in, going by your own admission that you want to tunnel me until 1 of us is dead. It is one of the most tilting gameplays there is, but it is usually what happens when I play as town. Regarding the situation, it doesnt matter the reason why people moved off of Hime. Fact is they did. That is an opening. I do not enter a new site and decide to hellbus my teammate from D1. The only reason why I wouldnt be "able" to "go anywhere without tying myself to Hime" and "compromising myself" is because I am one of two people behind the Hime push. As in, a situation I have been in full control of. Tho it is mountainous, so I could just agree with Watson and move away. Mountainous is for BSing.

I have already responded in dept regarding Watson's town read on Hime. I am not going to invent more reasons just for your liking. But tell you what, IF Hime flips scum, which I am feeling confident on, I can vote out myself tomorrow. I really dont have any patience with illogical and irrational tunnels that announce "1 of us must die", especially not when I have a pelt. And just for the record, I did this the last time when I was town on Syndicate, where I correctly scum read 2 wolves but egged on my own misyeet just so the "I will tunnel you until you die" person was forced to re-evaluate and so I could feel schadenfreude in the ghost chat tbh. So I am serious.
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i can easily reevaluate without either of us having to die, ive used the word "probably" when i said id tunnel, i feel like this response is too strong/preemptive to something i havent begun doing yet

gonna change subject, so is ur solve hime/watson/gad? i dont think sigis/OLU r scum so who else u have if not watson?
 
also if we flip both hime/gad scum back to back and am still alive i'll gladly take u up on that offer to yeet you :garrett
 
Emil said:
i can easily reevaluate without either of us having to die, ive used the word "probably" when i said id tunnel, i feel like this response is too strong/preemptive to something i havent begun doing yet

gonna change subject, so is ur solve hime/watson/gad? i dont think sigis/OLU r scum so who else u have if not watson?
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Why do you have sigis as town?
 
im having more trouble scum reading gad than boq unironically

Poyser said:
Why do you have sigis as town?
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well, if hime is scum hes not doing anything to help her or help himself off her. feels like no scum motivation there. think hed be more compelled to get himself into the game a bit more as scum here
 
Emil said:
im having more trouble scum reading gad than boq unironically


well, if hime is scum hes not doing anything to help her or help himself off her. feels like no scum motivation there. think hed be more compelled to get himself into the game a bit more as scum here
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well the problem with that is... he's not doing anything at all
 
Emil said:
im having more trouble scum reading gad than boq unironically


well, if hime is scum hes not doing anything to help her or help himself off her. feels like no scum motivation there. think hed be more compelled to get himself into the game a bit more as scum here
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also, what are you seeing from gad that you're having trouble with? im far less confident on him than i am hime and im not properly sure how to read him
 
Poyser said:
also, what are you seeing from gad that you're having trouble with? im far less confident on him than i am hime and im not properly sure how to read him
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think gad's holding himself just fine against accusations on him

he has no bite, but has a good shield

nothing out of scum range. gad's pretty tenacious and good with putting himself in winnable logical arguments

Poyser said:
well the problem with that is... he's not doing anything at all
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thats not rly scum indicative. if hime flips town id consider sigis more. i view him not doing anything when a scum is being pressured to be more townie
 
Gaddamnit said:
So, just so I'm not misunderstanding

You are putting your weight behind me being scum based off of fluff posts in a fluff post environment

Cool

Cool cool cool cool cool

I'm convinced
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logically, post like this is fine from gad @Poyser

it serves nothing but defend himself positionally tho

honestly to sum up my conflict on gad - positionally i think hes scum, logically maybe more townie

it is however easy to have good logical defense if hes not taking any solid positions, and the accusations against him werent very leak proof either so he had opportunity to dismantle them, yet he still does not bite, just stays on defense
 
Poyser said:
Ehhhh, this kinda reads like you were looking for something else.





Problem was that I came in and started talking about hime so you went back to her.
I don't really have you as scum, but gotta say your defence isn't really working for me
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Yeah in that first post I was unsure. Then I decided to scum read Hime anyway tbh

That's okay. I will self-vote tomorrow so I can have peace of mind and solve in the meantime tbh!
 
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