Game Ranked Bleach Mafia (Prod Test Game)

[Saber]

yeah this is why i am wondering if these guys have some weirdo meta with busses, considering my approach with Hime too was considered "partnered". Is just. Strange.

Poyser shouldve been town cleared after the flip and thats the reason why i didnt bother do any nka

nka?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Gad is town because he hated on how I solved Saber

Saber is town because he did a thing on D1 that I think usually comes from town, and the fact that the immediate reaction from the thread was to try to dissuade me from making that read, makes me want to clench my fist in stubbornness tbh

why does this make gad town?

Lmao you disagreed with my reasoning way back on D1 too

Normally town hates on my reads whereas scum lets me be tbh

ok but u didnt answer illwei's question - why does that make gad town

 

[Boquise]

So Hime...
Joins, eggs on, and jokes about the GAD sod1 wagon

ive been beaten to the punch
@Hobo didnt tag for the actual game start smh

Vote lynch Gad

i remember everything gad
u should be scared

@Hobo Activate Gad Kill

Has GAD later as top town, to then suddenly shade him to the ground:

y does it feel incredibly sus when u ask like this

slimy as fuck sheep read and probably scum

Town reads Watson strongly

watson is just plain never scum here

Town reads Ultra (and Ral lightly)

ultra probs town too
honestly ral kinda vibed town as well, idk y he got shit on for a gth reads list

on the contrary i think hes really diff from last game lol
much more progression of thoughts and less "just get him out"

Shades Cubey

thats a weird question
usually ppl would be more concerned with what reads u actually do have

alright, how r u planning to get a read on someone u think is unreadable?

disagree on cubey tbh
think he is leaning too much into it now is the vibe i got at least

ive seen him do/say silly things in games before but this is a diff lvl of bizarre and part of me feels like its an act
esp given that in an earlier post i said how idk if its something he would necessarily do as scum and then he mentions me of all ppl for the unreadable player thing

my whole point is that i think hes leaning into the act to the point its unnatural, guess u cant read

Shades Saber

its not like reads lists stay stagnant??
this feels like fake concern tbh

Protects OLU from Watson

fwiw i dont think this post makes much sense considering its 1 vote and the vote is from olu on poyser
i dont really agree with the vote from him but like theres no way its an opportunistic wagon lol

Shades Illwei

agree, i havent really seen anything to give a town read to

ftr i dont think youve just done game theory stuff, i agree with the part that i dont think I would put u as town as it stands
i think as someone who claims to be very good at catching scum, youve so far only gone for lhfs and taken safer stances

what stood out to me was that u called poyser sus at the start but then called OLU more sus for his reasons as to y he thought poyser was sus

then I dont remember seeing any real progression as to how poyser suddenly became town off that

not sure if this is serious or not
how can u say u believe in actions but also say u dont believe in the actions of someone from a previous game

First quoted post there is an agreement with Tempest.

Shades Reloaded

not really sure what to make of it atp
do think reloaded is worse tho
expect him to be very much in the thread spamming but i havent seen any of that

u have 0 scum reads and no thoughts on me and cubey who r also voting u?

also dissuades Watson from town reading Reloaded

feel like the +1s here dont really make much sense
he was asked to do it and therefore did
bit diff than choosing to do it on ur own

Agrees with Illwei tho on Jaguar needing heat

this is not bad
wouldnt mind some heat on jaguar as well

Shades Sigismund

this feels so defensive lol
simple "no" wouldve sufficed tbh

so used to at least one person thinking im scummy af and being able to have back and forths with ppl but i feel like its been so bla this round

RIP

Will leave Hime's read list and extension of the reads for another post
I have some conclusions that I will elaborate on soon, but here is a tldr

I think Cubey is just straight out spewed town due to how Hime focused much of her energy on shading him (and Reloaded).
The shade on Saber also makes Saber look good. But not as much as Cubey.
Hime's complete uninterest in reading Ral makes me think Ral is spewed town too

Emil subbed in for Jaguar right? I think agreeing with Illwei that Jaguar should be pushed is... slightly townie for that slot? On the other hand... distancing is always there and I can see a wolf wanting to bus their inactive teammates. This doesnt matter tho because Emil is town.

The shade on Sigismund happens in D2 iirc which makes it more complicated to read. It depends on if Hime thought there was a chance to move the yeet from her to Sigismund, in that case, probably Sigismund town. Otherwise, distancing.

Interactions I find weird are...
The Watson one. Like first Hime dissuades Watson from scum reading OLU. Then dissuades Watson from town reading Reloaded. I guess this could be scum having a lil' theatre/distancing. But it also raises my concerns more about OLU.

The Illwei interaction made me at first read it the same as I read Cubey's, but then Hime kinda began town reading Illwei. So idk there.

The GAD one is just wild. From top town to scum. ??? GTH townie for GAD???
I feel like Hime scum sided a lot. Her bottom three are all likely town imo. More to that later.

Oh and both Tempest and I are just shrug read as nulls. Poyser's ignored too a lot. I think Hime did not know what to do with our slots. Makes me town read Tempest more tbh

 

[Boquise]

why does this make gad town?


ok but u didnt answer illwei's question - why does that make gad town

I have repeated various versions of why GAD is town for that specific thing like 3 times already so I am starting to feel watered down. ISO me and ctrl+F GAD.

I did answer Illwei's question. It was just a very summarised version of it. Read line 2 in the post you quoted tbh

 

[Boquise]

like i am not interested anymore to go back into my brain and fish up the same reasoning for the umpteenth time. I have more important things to do, like update my reads tbh

 

[Boquise]

Gonna have these bad bois in their own posts

TOWN
hime

LEAN TOWN
Dr. Watson, Ultra

SLIGHT TOWN
Poyser, Gaddamnit, Ral

NULL
Boquise, Tempest, Illwei

INACTIVE AF
Fujishiro

SLIGHT SCUM
Jaguark101, One Last Username

LEAN SCUM
Saber, Mr. Reloaded, Cubey

think this is where i am atm

not sure what to make of cubeys vote on reloaded yet, probably unaligned

honestly wasnt sure whether to put poyser at null or slight town, nothing really makes me vibe "TOWN" the same way it does for watson and ultra
i dont think hes playing much like the last game he was scum tho

gad and ral just feel really relaxed despite ppl sussing them
idk abt ral since ive never played with him but ive seen gad in self-pres mode and that didnt really happen here

boq and tempest i largely have no thoughts at all on
illwei i feel like has made some good posts here and there is a possibility she is aligned with reloaded, esp also given that she decided to pursue a new direction in jaguar, would probs need to think abt her a bit more

fuji is self-explanatory

jaguar and olu i feel have largely fell off
jaguar worse tho imo
my only pause would be that they seem very new ig, thought his vote on gad after vc 1 was kinda off tho

idk how to describe it exactly but saber makes me think of how i used to play as scum when i was newer
asking questions here and there that dont really help to progress the gamestate but makes u look a bit more involved

reloaded is much diff than how i remember playing with him
he says he is worried abt being yelled at abt spam in ranked which ig is fair but idk if that should translate to just doing... nothing?
his last scum game on here, he claimed his real role iirc (not fake), it makes me wonder if he is worried abt screwing up

 

[Boquise]

nka?

night kill analysis

 

[Boquise]

@Tempest what do you make out of GAD with Hime's posts in mind?

 

[Saber]

Emil subbed in for Jaguar right? I think agreeing with Illwei that Jaguar should be pushed is... slightly townie for that slot? On the other hand... distancing is always there and I can see a wolf wanting to bus their inactive teammates. This doesnt matter tho because Emil is town.

jaguar -> sigismund
fujishiro -> emil

 

[Boquise]

oh sigismund subbed in for jaguar tbh

 

[Boquise]

I probably dont want to vote Sigismund anymore tbh

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I have repeated various versions of why GAD is town for that specific thing like 3 times already so I am starting to feel watered down. ISO me and ctrl+F GAD.

I did answer Illwei's question. It was just a very summarised version of it. Read line 2 in the post you quoted tbh

so gad's town cuz normally town hates on your reads?

i have some issues with this:

1. thats not a reason based on gad's actions in respective to saber, it's a made up meta reason that occurred to you with other players elsewhere that you are now attributing to gad, who shud be in his first game with you. i am sure you can also find examples of scum discrediting your reads, even if indirectly. in this game hime went against couple of your town reads already

2. you are suspected to be a teammate of gad so nothing prevents you from telling him to approach you this way to get a town read from you

 

[Saber]

btw, for those of you who have already played with scum hime, what do you make of her giving up on defending herself so early?

 

[Dr. Watson]

lethargy and lack of time

i think poyser and tempest made it difficult for her to maintain a strong and influential thread position so she indirectly conceded. attempts were made but it was clear she was like "idc"
it probably didn't help i came around to scumreading her considering how heavily pocketed i was. she mightve felt she had a minor chance to avoid a lynch there maybe but idk

 

[Boquise]

LEAN SCUM
Saber, Mr. Reloaded, Cubey

I bet my right boot that all three peeps here are town tbh

SLIGHT SCUM
Jaguark101, One Last Username

Kinda weird seeing OLU here considering Hime defending him against Watson. Reasoning is that they have "fallen off".
I still would like to put a FOS on OLU for that. It feels off since Hime never really returns to this particular thing again, so it isnt like she is trying to work up some cred if OLU'd flip town. It also makes the team Hime/Watson/OLU unlikely.

Watson and Hime felt like sorta, leading the thread? But since every single person in this game seems to town read Watson except me, I guess I will have to relent tbh. Like. To be fair it isnt good distancing to talk like that to your teammate on D1. And both feel like good players. Yeah alright.

So my POE is done for.

illwei i feel like has made some good posts here and there is a possibility she is aligned with reloaded, esp also given that she decided to pursue a new direction in jaguar, would probs need to think abt her a bit more

I am a bit worried about this regarding Illwei's alignment. Hime puts a lot of details (compared to other reads) on why Illwei should be town read, after shading her for a bit and then agreeing with her take on Jaguar/Sigismund. Illwei has voted Sigismund a lot, so I could see it as a wolf boosting a town to push for another town. Either way, this sort of approach makes Hime/Sigismund a very unlikely team. Because you rarely send a town on an already struggling teammate (or a wolf to another wolf for that matter), since that would give Hime zero cred in an eventual Sigismund flip. It does wash her hands off of Sigismund's blood however... and puts the blame on Illwei.

Was kinda weirded out that Hime wrote to Illwei "you who pride yourself in finding scum" or something akin to that, because I dont remember Illwei writing that (tho i couldve missed it), so at first I thought that maybe that was something Illwei and Hime couldve spoken about in wolf chat. But if Illwei has talked about it prior inside this thread, plus given that boosting her for her Sigismund push... I think that can keep Illwei in my town list.

The GAD approach is super weird. From:

gad and ral just feel really relaxed despite ppl sussing them
idk abt ral since ive never played with him but ive seen gad in self-pres mode and that didnt really happen here

To that he is the slimiest scum ever.
And like, at first I thought big words like that should unpair GAD with Hime, because why talk like that to your teammate? At D1? Wolves shouldnt wanna bus on D1 unless a wolf is tanking.

BUT THEN I REMEMBERED. How me and good ol' Ultra (may he rest in the pet sematary) kept pushing each other and using aggressive language... when it didnt matter. It made like everyone unpair us. But we did that when the lynch was already decided, or when it was early into the day. These pushes on GAD happens when the lynch on Reloaded is already decided.

So it COULD be a low-risk distancing game.


Conclusions:
Cubey, Saber - always town. These are slots btw that scum really need to get lynched. So like, hold on to them.
Ral, Sigismund - very likely town
Illwei - town
Watson - probably town
OLU, GAD - looks the worst out of this, so maybe scum tbh.

 

[Cubey]

Oh Fuji was subbed out

 

[Boquise]

lethargy and lack of time

i think poyser and tempest made it difficult for her to maintain a strong and influential thread position so she indirectly conceded. attempts were made but it was clear she was like "idc"
it probably didn't help i came around to scumreading her considering how heavily pocketed i was. she mightve felt she had a minor chance to avoid a lynch there maybe but idk

 

[Boquise]

btw, for those of you who have already played with scum hime, what do you make of her giving up on defending herself so early?

also to avoid spew me thinks tbh

 

[Boquise]

Oh Fuji was subbed out

hows planet mars tbh

 

[Boquise]

so gad's town cuz normally town hates on your reads?

i have some issues with this:

1. thats not a reason based on gad's actions in respective to saber, it's a made up meta reason that occurred to you with other players elsewhere that you are now attributing to gad, who shud be in his first game with you. i am sure you can also find examples of scum discrediting your reads, even if indirectly. in this game hime went against couple of your town reads already

2. you are suspected to be a teammate of gad so nothing prevents you from telling him to approach you this way to get a town read from you

honestly Emil i dont really care if i am "suspected" of being teamed with GAD, nor is it relevant to me tbh

And nah, whilst I am sometimes wrong on it, it has rand>positive accuracy. Hime did not discredit me in that sense in this game so thats moot. Like, it is the approach lol. But it is a waste of time to explain it on detail since it is like when Ford Prefect explains to Arthur Dent how flying works. Either way, my read is updated. What work have you done today, my peltless friend tbh?