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TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

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Official Translation is finally happening for Prisma Illya...
Hopefully it goes far better than how the Mortallis Stella/Shimousa Manga went with Kadokawa.
 
I know I'm repeating what we already know as I'm doing Cu Alter's 2nd NP Interlude but just to add in some extra details that is brought up but not in full:

  • Cu Alter ends up fatally poisoned after taking out Semiramis and Robin Hood and their familiars. Nothing really shows he had to use a single NP against them and Cu Alter and Ritsuka was already on fumes beforehand.
  • Cu Alter then takes out Medb and Karna with Cu Alter tanking Medb's Chariot My Love and tossing it at Karna, killing him(Most likely due to the battle itself wearing him down like Sieg was doing in Apocrypha) and Cu uses Gae Bolg to kill Medb. Cu Alter then tells Ritsuka to rest while he finishes up.
  • By the time Ritsuka catches up, Cu Alter has killed Heracles a few times(It's implied it's either 6-7 times) without Ritsuka's help(thus no Chaldean Master boost) while his body and mind is falling apart completely. Ritsuka showing up gives him enough of a boost to kill Heracles and Salter using Curriud.

Though he all but states he's a goner eventually(Most likely dies while in Chaldea and gets resummoned), it's still insanely impressive but it makes sense as Cu is basically on Karna's level anyway and Cu Alter is Cu+.
 
And yet people still though Scathach is jobber while Cu Alter easily kill Karna in America Singalurity and his interlude

There is basis in believing Scathath is a jobber... but the issue is if you only look at her LOSSES and not the circumstances behind her losses, that's when it gets from "Yeah she jobs but she's still one of the strongest Lancers period" to "You don't even know how to read, do you?"

- In America, Scathath is outright stated by Cu Alter to be able to destroy Arjuna in a fight. Nothing at all states this is due to Arjuna not being in the game or anything, Scathath can straight up defeat him in a one on one.

- Also in the battle against Cu Alter, not only was Scathath matching him blow for blow for everything he did(including Gae Bolg Clashes), she not only lost because she didn't know Cu Alter had Curruid Coinchenn, Cu Alter implicitly stated he needed it's World Destroying Power... just to punch through Scathath successfully(showing how absurd her Spiritron Defenses are).

- In Fate/Extella Link, she dead ass defeats Cu through sheer embarrassment in single combat(This is when Cu is explicitly stated to be on par with Karna) and not only did it require Cu, Charlemagne(A Top Tier Servant even with his Spirit Origin degenerating) and your squad of 2-3 other Servants, Scathath herself was Oraclized except for a bit of her mind which held the rest of her back at a critical moment.

- This isn't counting the past Summer Event where Caenis was going wild on everyone as revenge for Scathath and Skadi putting her in a Swimsuit and attacked everyone and no one was hurt, not even Skadi. Not even Napoleon.

Also, Cu Alter ganked Karna when he was going through the phase of using Vasavi Shakti(and Karna was on fumes) but considering the Interlude? It wouldn't have made no difference.
 
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The reason why the planet Earth falls into the Moon is because of Archtype Earth. The latter is summoned as a servant, which means her power gets nerfed. That kinda remind me during her melty blood story.

Source
 
... She said she would watch humanity's end because life should have a conclusion, not that they were worth nothing and deserved to be destroyed...

I'll get back to this later because FB already pissed me off over something else
 
Okay, now I understand

They (The Archetype) is actually the soul of the planet but only gained a body "recently" (compared to their lifespan)
Humanity not only outlived their welcome but refused to pass on even after finishing their "purpose"
So they (The Archetype) wants them to perish
 
Well I threadmarked that, I should go ahead and threadmark the Strange Fake Summary too...

EDIT:

Can't find it so instead, I'll go a bit over some new shit from OC3 that will pop up in the future or be small factoids:
Don't feel like doing any spoilers so I'll either avoid them or put them in the spoiler bracket.

Archetype: EARTH gave us the biggest change in that apparently, not all Planets(In the Nasuverse sense which means shit like the Moon and such) have Souls and thus, have Archetypes(Or TYPEs) in that case and thus, not all "Planets" are like the Solar System Planets. Though I'm still trying to make sure I look at it because I'm not sure if it's an extremely common thing or it's a slightly rare thing.

Also:
Basically, the Moon fucking sucks
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It simultaneously works as a barrier and an obstacle to getting off Earth by not being a truly physical object but by giving the suggestion that "We are good enough here, we don't really need to leave"(Which is called Moon Cancer... yes, it's named similar to the Class but their purposes are different) which considering the new loredump in that Moon Cancer, the Class, is meant to be the ones to see if the Prime Species deserves to stick around or not and if they cannot, it's either they get the "All Delete" from the Pruning Theoretical Phenomenon from the sheer backlog of creating/finding an Archetype but not sending it off of Earth and creating it's own species or Moon Cancer the Class tells the Planet to just get rid of you.

HOWEVER, it's also stated that if Humanity does create a new Archetype(Or a new Archetype springs forth on it's own) and they get it to leave Earth, while they will lose their Prime Species status, it's not death or anything like that, it's just losing the title and we become like everyone else. Although this seems to spit on the Age of Will concept, it actually doesn't because that only happens if Humanity creates an Archetype/finds a newly created Archetype and refuses to kill it while still advancing or just leave the Planet themselves.
It's just another potential end of Humanity that has been all over the franchise from the start.

Basically OC3 is probably the furthest Nasu has gone in regards to really doing a loredump and including things from Extra into FGO and creating new concepts altogether.
 
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MoonCancer decides that prime's fate
Moon Cancer is what that world would become if they hadn't been destroyed
 
Yeah, I tried to describe the phenomenon being distinct from the class and what they do but I still screwed up that the phenomenon still causes the Pruning regardless if you fuck it up.
Definitely gonna wait 2 years to clear it up better...
 
If that humanity was not destroyed they would become literal Cancer to the universe, hence Moon Cancer, or the latter

ムーンキャンサー is the irregular class
 
I can confirm they do name the president and say hers are more technologically advanced with the same metaphor as described

it's not 100% but it's accurate enough (the second to last line is not completely clear unless I ask someone else and I don't feel like doing that)
 
I guess I can double check both when I get back
I can confirm they do name the president and say hers are more technologically advanced with the same metaphor as described

it's not 100% but it's accurate enough (the second to last line is not completely clear unless I ask someone else and I don't feel like doing that)

Then I'll allow it to stay here. Just gotta make sure these translations are atleast decently accurate as it's only been 5 days since OC3's final part came out?

And yeah, I need to finally get started on doing my Nasuverse Archives in earnest now so yeah, gonna be busy finally putting all the touches on Musashi's profile.
 
It's funny going through Shimousa to finally complete Musashi's section and finding out just how much Shimousa even in the game goes at lengths to state how Musashi would have barely mattered at all despite her Trial stating she's on par with a Servant while alive.
This does further boost up Munenori's cred considering just like Musashi, he explicitly got stronger as a Servant and he was already well past being Musashi's superior to the point her Empyrean Eye couldn't keep up and only her Ultimate Technique/Noble Phantasm could do so even with Ritsuka Support.

I swore I remember in Shimousa that Musashi no sold a bunch of wandering Curses due to her Magic Resistance while still being alive but I can't remember where it was.
 
Then I'll allow it to stay here. Just gotta make sure these translations are atleast decently accurate as it's only been 5 days since OC3's final part came out?

And yeah, I need to finally get started on doing my Nasuverse Archives in earnest now so yeah, gonna be busy finally putting all the touches on Musashi's profile.

here's the raws for both

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XXA also says she can make one with her noble phantasm soon afterward
 
Did Nasu just erase Arcueid's Moon back up ? the one that nerf her opponents to 1/6 of thier power , because i don´t see it when she fought Ciel.
 
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