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TYPE-Moon/Nasuverse Feats/General Thread - People Die If They Are Killed Edition

Wasn't Arc specifically acting as Archetype Earth (i.e. directly commanded by the planet)? I think she'd still have her normal ability at that stage since the influence of the Earth can reach the moon in this universe. Hence her being able to actually just throw the planet at the moon :skully
 
she switches between her personalities which is why she decides to off humanity in the first place

While it's called an Earth drop by her Hakuno states technically it's still the Moon which is being moved out of orbit
 
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The war between the two sides has been going on for a long time.

(What is going on here?)

The female warrior leader did not panic even though she was very confused.

(Wait... Considering the extent of this battle, perhaps... This isn't a proper ceremony but perhaps it's enough to call me.)

The two figures collided and she had no reason to take sides.

She has been called up but has not yet signed a contract.

Hippolyte observed so.

To know what is happening in the sacred land she summoned.

Or to determine exactly what this Holy Grail War is.

“Aaaargh! Can’t you ever give up?”, one of the people exchanging bullets said - a woman dressed in red - while she fired Gandr curses.

She fired cursed bullets with the force of a triple-barreled assault rifle, narrowly dodging the target, shattering part of the concrete wall behind her and revealing the steel bars inside. While the woman in red confirmed the result of her shot, her dark eyes found Hippolyte.

"Seems like our guest couldn't stand to wait until we were finished. Wanna keep going?", she added as she furthered the distance between herself and her opponent.

The other figure—a woman covering the area around her in black smoke—responded to her enemy in red's question with a sharp glare.

"Leave her waiting. Or did you want a break to have tea with the Heroic Spirit?"

From the gaps of the woman's black smoke, she could peek at a harmonious face with shark-like teeth and a pair of gothic goggles on her eyes, engraved with magical letters.

Her words were weaved with wicked laughter, but in contrast, the woman in red sighed and shrugged.

"Well guessed, that's exactly what I was planning to do this whole time."

There was no delay between the woman's words and her actions.

"Without you, of course."

Her sigh and her shrug were no mere provocation. A superb way of walking that combined her magical energy, technique, and all of her arduously cultivated physical strength.

Her slender body reached top speed in a blink of an eye.

At that point, she had already switched her limbs to their next form.

A perfectly delivered backhand blow flew toward her opponent's body.

A hit to the ribcage. Even a normal backhand to that area had the chance to prove fatal to an undertrained body.

Nonetheless, this was not even the worst she did.

At the start of her movement, the woman in red fired a ball of curse from her fingertip, ran at the same speed as her shot, and delivered her twisted backhand together with it to push the shot further.

"Gah...!"

The woman's goggles cracked with the blow.

The blow hit the chest, quite distant from the face, and yet the impact spread through her body was intense enough to cause visible damage to her facial accessory.

"Kh... Kh... Haha, hahahahaha!"

Hit with a strike and curse inevitably capable of knocking out a boxing champion in one hit, the woman with the goggles laughed ecstatically.

"I get it now... You're as good as the rumors say! No, better than the rumors! Average One!"

"I don't know what rumors you heard, but I'm much more than my attributes... Ah!"

Toosaka Rin—the woman in red dodged the opponent's chop mid-sentence.

"True, my bad!"

The mage with the goggles—Doris Lusendra's chop was also superhuman.

The first thing to call attention to is that her fingers were nothing like human fingers. Their form and hardness were altered to resemble the talons of a bird of prey—or rather, of a phantasmal dragon. This makes them blades capable of bisecting a human being. She rushed in at Rin for a follow-up.

What makes her chops so difficult to fight against is how all of them cause the whole cloud of black smoke around her to move.

It can sometimes serve as a traditional obfuscating smokescreen, sometimes serve as shackles to slow down the enemy's movements, and some of the smoke can concentrate to attack Rin as a third arm.

The Lusendra family.

A lineage that determined that one of their end goals was to replicate an allegedly extinct phantasmal species from Japan, the oni, with their own flesh and blood, and spent the past 1000 years modifying their own bodies and Magic Circuits.

With a special form of Reinforcement Magecraft passed down in the family, they repurpose their skeleton, each muscle fiber, each nerve, each lymph duct, and each capillary vessel to pass as a makeshift Magic Circuit.

Their final destination is defined by the contradiction of making the already lost past reach the distant future.

To take hold of, understand, or rewrite what is lost with the progress of the current form of Human Order, many mages keep the engine of their bloodlines running.

Doris Lusendra is one of many using their lives and souls as fuel to the ends of the rails set by their lineages.

"I really want to praise you right now, but the first word to come to mind is 'nasty'.", Rin shrugged looking at the half-wrecked walls, floor, and pillars. "In no time, you changed this room's attribute into your own without even a Mystic Code or a catalyst... no, I guess at this point, your very body is already a Mystic Code and a catalyst."

The room had marks of destruction, some done by Rin's magecraft but most done by Doris's own body, and the parts she broke were drenched in remains of the raging magical energy seeping from her.

Meaning that the more Doris destroyed, the more this environment became magically advantageous to her.

The debris housing magical energy had already begun to resonate with Doris. The room's interior was expressing its hostile intent to remove the unwelcome element that was Rin.

"You are the greatest wall in my path! You are worth bringing out all the deepest secrets of us Lusendra!"

"Do I really look nice enough to play along with everything you want to show?"

Her actions were faster than her words. Rin deployed jewels around her.

"Anfang."

Simultaneously with her power words, surges of magical energy of multiple attributes erupted from the spaces between the seven floating gems.

Then the light continuously reflected inside the gems, expanding their magical energy as it shot flashes of light.

Magical energy of multiple attributes twisted into a beam of light aimed at Doris Lusendra.

The spell known by the name Cutting Seven-Colors.

And what was behind her seven jewels was even more terrifying.

The flash of light was concealing five floating jewels disposed in the shape of a pentagram.

It was the magecraft she perfected under Lord El-Melloi II's tutelage: Fünf Sterne im Umlauf.

The unfair technique that allows Rin, the Average One, to initiate magecraft pre-deployed in the gems in response to the enemy spell, ensuring her attack will always have the upper hand in any compatibility interaction.

The jewels' magical beam served as a distraction to give her time to speak the chant that induces its activation.

"You won't!"

Black mist explosively expanded out of Doris's body to cancel the glimmer circulating in the jewels.

It was the blood that sprayed out of the cut she made on the arteries of her own wrist.

The blood sprayed out already on its acidic black color and tried to crush the jewels around Rin in a form like a water jet's blade.

At the same time, Doris's body morphed considerably.

Doris's skin, previously reinforced like steel, was ripped apart as her right arm's bones started to morph into a blade.

And then the debris around her floated and began to gather on Doris's right arm, compressing all the steel beams and concrete.

The bone blade coated in steel and debris finally covered the whole arm, turning into armor as it grew larger until the black hand eventually surpassed her own height, almost reaching from the ground to the ceiling.

And next,

with a twisted sound, the right arm made of debris, bone, iron, and most importantly, Doris's Circuit-converted flesh and blood, plunged forward, assaulting Rin with the palm of a giant.

And the worst of all is that this whole alteration and strike took place in less than 1 second.

Normally, Rin could effortlessly dismantle the physical components if she had only completed the Fünf Sterne im Umlauf chant.

But Doris's speed left no room to complete the spell.

All cheats and counters are swallowed by her diligently optimized bodily alteration speed and the physical strength created by her Reinforcement Magecraft.

Even if Rin did activate her spell and tried to dismantle it, the debris had already gained impulse unrelated to magecraft and an improvised barrier or defensive spell couldn't stop their masses.

Rin's Fünf Sterne im Umlauf is practically invincible against constructed magecraft.

However, this description refers to magecraft which eventually dissipates into the world. It's powerless against real phenomena connected to the world, like for example special permanent projections, a mercury being taking a fully physical form, or simply a dump truck running in her direction.

Lusendra knew nothing of the Fünf Sterne im Umlauf spell, but in the depths of her obsession, she unwittingly achieved a counterplay for Rin's greatest secret.

"You don't get a choice, you will play along, Toosaka Rin!"



The Lusendra lineage has been in rapid degradation in recent years.

Not because they've been getting any less arcane.

They simply tried too hard.

The Lusendra lineage devoured everything it could to grow closer to the phantasmagoria of the oni, or to live life the way they did.

The previous family head, the most powerful in their history, devoured man and fiend alike, sometimes even vampires, and lastly, in an attempt to devour a god, he headed to Japan, where the God Possessor clans are.

And there he randomly came across the real deal. Which means to say he was slaughtered by a one-eyed man with thick oni blood in his veins.

They lost most of their Magic Crest and then had to deal with the heavy consequences of their quest for "sacrifices to devour" continuously making larges amounts of new enemies for them.

The only options left for them were to disappear into obscurity or to be instantly ruined by an enemy attack.

That's when Doris, the only one who hadn't given up yet, was visited by Francesca and invited to the Holy Grail War.

She was told that the Grail was fake and most likely incapable of reaching the Fount.

But she was told it was somewhat effective as a wishing-granting device.

Doris Lusendra didn't blindly trust the story but accepted the invitation.

She believed that seeing a hero from the Age of Gods with her own eyes and having her magical energy connected to one was worth it, and most importantly, if something close to a god manifested, she had a chance to incorporate it into her body.

But that was not what was happening.

A powerful enemy appeared before she could even summon, and faced with this enemy, Doris lost sight of everything. The Holy Grail War, the revival of her family, and the roadmap of her future were all trivial.

But she didn't forget her thesis as a mage.

She was sure of it.

This mage right here was the greatest obstacle in her whole life.

She was sure that blasting through this wall was the way to perfect her lineage's magecraft.

Thus, she poured everything into this blow.

She didn't mind losing the chance to fight those who appeared alongside Toosaka Rin or the chance to contract the Servant.

It was with that much resolve that she launched her Giant Oni Grab.

This blow was her ultimate technique to crush any enemy regardless of whatever magecraft attribute they could have.



"Fantastic.", Hippolyte approved of the magecraft Doris poured her heart and soul into. "But..."

Her eyes were the eyes of a warrior Heroic Spirit. They clearly saw the bigger picture.

By the time the palm strike of the giant was composed, the woman named Toosaka Rin had already abandoned the chant and the jewels.

She judged that the greatest magecraft she ever constructed couldn't a thing against the physical strength generated by her opponent.

And as soon as she did, she repurposed half of the magical energy in all the deployed gems to conceal herself and construct a power spot, and then she jumped close to the ceiling, slipping between the giant's fingers.

Any misstep and she would have ended up a victim of the oni's claws, but regardless, the mage named Toosaka Rin escaped the jaws of death.

(This wasn't a gamble. That mage... she went through all her options and knew which was the best one.)

The mage Rin only turned behind for one instant to look regretfully at the gems going to waste, and while she did, she kicked the ceiling, switching the vectors of her body, mind, and magical energy flow into her next move.

Drawing all the excess energy from the crushed jewels back into her body, she composed her favorite spell, one she can do without requiring a chant.

Dense misfortune spouted out of Rin's fingertips at the start of her free fall from the ceiling.

Hippolyte recognized that as a curse, although one quite different in design compared to the curses of her land.

Hippolyte never heard the word "Gandr" before, but as someone who fought loads and loads of demonic beasts and sorcerers from the Age of Gods, she could easily guess what it was used for.

(But what radiant curse!)

The Gandr was just a curse. Hippolyte's heartfelt admiration was for the refined tricks around it. She presumed this magecraft finesse to be on the high end of what the tactical minds of the modern age can do.

And so came the time for the match's conclusion.



"You wily-!"

Doris voiced her surprise at the same time she internally commended her enemy.

The spell Rin had previously compiled was one of the greatest achievements of her mage lineage.

The decision to discard that magecraft after so much buildup was not an easy one even for the most rational of mages.

Doris judged that her opponent had extraordinary combat experience on top of her diligent study of magecraft. She prepared to counter her opponent's attacks, with the corners of her mouth raised high.

She had already seen this Gandr many times before.

It was a refined cursed bullet named Finn Shot, capable of piercing concrete. Since Toosaka Rin fired those with the frequency of an autocannon, no ordinary man fighting her could escape certain death.

Even if their body can somehow withstand it, the essence of the curse would infiltrate their body and stop their heart.

(However, my skin is now iron and can block the consecutive curse volleys!)

Doris surrounded her whole body with intense magical energy, with the intention of landing the most effective counter she could deliver.

But the Gandr impact she was prepared to take never came.

"!?"

Doris felt let down but didn't have the time to feel confused. Before she could, she saw the Gandr shot out of Rin's fingertips intercepted by something invisible.

For a moment, Doris assumed someone other than Rin interfered. But she discerned it was not the case. The qualities of the magical energy emitted by the barrier were identical to the qualities of the energy covering Rin.

Meaning the one who set the boundary was Rin herself.

(She's... keeping her Gandrs caged inside a Bounded Field?!)

In its normal form, this boundary was powerful enough to lock an enemy inside a room.

Rin compressed the boundary to the size of a football, making it into a cage to circulate the Gandrs she produced.

The cage was now a pressure cooker full of curses, shrinking even further as it dropped to Doris's feet.

Doris envisioned the explosion of the accumulated curses and focused her magical energy on her feet to jump away, then Rin sank her foot to the ground with a full-powered stomp.

A blow on a moment of distraction.

With the Gandr cage taking all of her attention, Doris forgot about Rin for a moment—an instant, even.

To Toosaka Rin, a mage who once survived a Holy Grail War, an opponent who lets their guard down like this is an opponent who surrendered the battle.

And Toosaka Rin's style was to break an enemy's spirit beyond repair, surrendered or otherwise.

Rin approached from an angle Doris wasn't looking at and shoved the Bounded Field compressed to the size of a golf ball into Doris's foot with her stomp.

Doris had her whole body down to the capillary vessels turned into makeshift Magic Circuits, and this strike aimed for the moment she would focus all her magical energy on her feet for a jump.

What could only be described as a curse cannon loaded with a grapeshot of Finn Shots wrenched open her steel body and spread through her body when her foot had the maximum amount of magical energy paths open.

The impact on the foot could be felt even on the top of the head, and its shockwaves broke Doris's goggles to smithereens.

"GAH...!"

Doris coughed black blood and her body bent backward.

Rin's movement flowed into the next, preparing to use her palm heel to shove in her next Gandr along with a jewel she suddenly had in her hand. However, this blow was blocked by another palm coming from her side.

Rin cast a sharp glare at the intruder. Hippolyte looked straight into Rin as she spoke.



"I apologize for putting a damper on your combat.", said Hippolyte. Her right hand calmly stopped the blow that would use a jewel to drive a Gandr to someone's insides.

Rin just saw someone block an attack powerful enough to knock down a giant elephant, but showed no signs of surprise.

Because she knew that Heroic Spirits were overwhelming power inaccessible to modern mages.

"But this match already has a winner. Additional attacks those who can't move won't be allowed on my watch."

In sync with Hippolyte's words, Doris's knees gave in and she collapsed.

With the magical energy composing it dispelled, the giant palm made of blood and debris crumbled.

Meanwhile, Doris's left arm was extremely injured, but due to the original properties of her body, it had already stopped bleeding.

"Hmmm..."

Rin looked as if she was the one testing the Heroic Spirit's values. She sighed while she put her magical energy to rest.

As she stepped away gripping her gem, Doris formed sentences in the gaps of her ragged breaths.

"I don't need your mercy, Heroic Spirit... Now that I'm defeated, I have no problems with my blood, flesh, and soul being devoured by the victor."

Despite the blood coughs interrupting her speech, Doris's face had an expression of satisfaction. She couldn't stand up. It was taking all that she had just to keep talking.

Seeing Doris like this, Rin spoke with an expression of disgust.

"Hey, can you stop making it sound like I'm a Strigoaică or a carnivorous dinosaur? I was never after your life... That said, I hate being mistaken for a naïve mage, so listen. Ahem." In contrast with her previous violence, Rin's assertion to Doris was completely rational. "Regardless of our pact, the Command Spells appeared in you first. I can't imagine the Heroic Spirit right there will be happy if I kill you to steal them like some bandit... Although some Heroic Spirits would like me better if I finished you off without mercy."

Rin looked at Hippolyte as she spoke.

Doris had also perceived Hippolyte's nature at first glance. Her face alone could vaguely move when her limbs still couldn't, so she faintly smiled and closed her eyes.

"I was soundly defeated. I have no regrets."

"Good for you. I have a lot of regrets. Sigh." Before continuing, Rin directed a mean smile at Doris. "How many gems do you even think I spent on you? I can't make you pay compensation if you're dead, can I?"

X       X

"I see, the two mages made a pact before the duel. I assume with the rights to my contract at stake."

"More specifically the bargaining chips that enable our contract. That'd be the Command Spells."

After hearing the situation, Hippolyte looked at Rin with new eyes.

A mightful mage.

And still with a lot of room for growth.

Rider's simple impression is that despite all this growth potential, she was already far too perfected for her young age.

And she wasn't the only one.

"And you don't resort to your numbers to steal it...", said Hippolyte, feeling the presence of the dozens of mages outside the room.

"We do, depending on the situation. But the Holy Grail War is not even started yet, you know?"

Taking Rin's word as their signal, the ones outside stepped into the wrecked room.

"Well, it was really fortuitous that she accepted a personal duel bound by a magical pact, Toosaka Rin. It's already humiliating enough that our Svin and Roland, due to being a wolf and snake, had to negotiate a peaceful resolution to their fight against the Zempulus beast hunter the other day. Having to resort to our superior numbers to beat the Lusendra oni imitation would put a dent in our teacher's glory.", said a young man with the airs of a noble.

"Still, what a boorish battle. You could have ended it so much faster and easier if you had ever learned a grappling move or stopped being a penny-pincher with your gems.", continued a woman in a blue dress.

Hearing that, Rin took one more at Doris lying down on debris before delivering her counter-argument.

"Hello? Have you seen her magecraft? I'd be dead with my bones full of holes if I've ever tried anything as slow as a grappling move."

"Sweet, ignorant child. Once you master your locks and throws, you can neutralize your enemies as instantly as you can with punches."

"Honestly, you're the only one who even tries pulling off these niche tactics on mages, do you know that?"

"And that last hit... The Bounded Field sealing the Gandrs was shoddily composed. Were you taking suicide bombing as your plan B again?"

"What the hell do you mean by 'again'? When did I ever do that?!"

The women in the red and blue continued their debate. Watching it from the sidelines, it was hard to determine if they were serious or just banteri
 
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She fired cursed bullets with the force of a triple-barreled assault rifle, narrowly dodging the target, shattering part of the concrete wall behind her and revealing the steel bars inside. While the woman in red confirmed the result of her shot, her dark eyes found Hippolyte.
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It was a refined cursed bullet named Finn Shot, capable of piercing concrete. Since Toosaka Rin fired those with the frequency of an autocannon, no ordinary man fighting her could escape certain death.

It's nice to see that Rin's Gandr shots just keep getting more and more physically powerful despite the fact that it's meant to be an illness curse.

The Lusendra family.
A lineage that determined that one of their end goals was to replicate an allegedly extinct phantasmal species from Japan, the oni, with their own flesh and blood, and spent the past 1000 years modifying their own bodies and Magic Circuits.
With a special form of Reinforcement Magecraft passed down in the family, they repurpose their skeleton, each muscle fiber, each nerve, each lymph duct, and each capillary vessel to pass as a makeshift Magic Circuit.
Their final destination is defined by the contradiction of making the already lost past reach the distant future.
To take hold of, understand, or rewrite what is lost with the progress of the current form of Human Order, many mages keep the engine of their bloodlines running.
Doris Lusendra is one of many using their lives and souls as fuel to the ends of the rails set by their lineages.

It's crazy to see something done in Prisma Illya as a last second gambit to defeated Darkened Kid Gilgamesh actually be fully adapted into it's own Magecraft to imitate Onis. Like it makes alot of sense(As Oni are just generally bullshit in the Nasuverse even if they aren't as high as Sphinxes and Dragons) because it always seemed something you could do if you ultimately had enough buildup towards it but was too much of a bitch for anyone but an old family to really do.

"I really want to praise you right now, but the first word to come to mind is 'nasty'.", Rin shrugged looking at the half-wrecked walls, floor, and pillars. "In no time, you changed this room's attribute into your own without even a Mystic Code or a catalyst... no, I guess at this point, your very body is already a Mystic Code and a catalyst."
The room had marks of destruction, some done by Rin's magecraft but most done by Doris's own body, and the parts she broke were drenched in remains of the raging magical energy seeping from her.
Meaning that the more Doris destroyed, the more this environment became magically advantageous to her.
The debris housing magical energy had already begun to resonate with Doris. The room's interior was expressing its hostile intent to remove the unwelcome element that was Rin.
"You are the greatest wall in my path! You are worth bringing out all the deepest secrets of us Lusendra!"

Oh... kay. That's something I didn't really expect Narita to go with not because there isn't Magecraft that does similar, but more that it can be done to this degree and such ease.

At the same time, Doris's body morphed considerably.
Doris's skin, previously reinforced like steel, was ripped apart as her right arm's bones started to morph into a blade.
And then the debris around her floated and began to gather on Doris's right arm, compressing all the steel beams and concrete.
The bone blade coated in steel and debris finally covered the whole arm, turning into armor as it grew larger until the black hand eventually surpassed her own height, almost reaching from the ground to the ceiling.
And next,
with a twisted sound, the right arm made of debris, bone, iron, and most importantly, Doris's Circuit-converted flesh and blood, plunged forward, assaulting Rin with the palm of a giant.
And the worst of all is that this whole alteration and strike took place in less than 1 second.

That's absolutely impressive considering the number of actions happening at once(including using the damaged debris as a gigantic hand)

The Lusendra lineage has been in rapid degradation in recent years.
Not because they've been getting any less arcane.
They simply tried too hard.
The Lusendra lineage devoured everything it could to grow closer to the phantasmagoria of the oni, or to live life the way they did.
The previous family head, the most powerful in their history, devoured man and fiend alike, sometimes even vampires, and lastly, in an attempt to devour a god, he headed to Japan, where the God Possessor clans are.
And there he randomly came across the real deal. Which means to say he was slaughtered by a one-eyed man with thick oni blood in his veins.
They lost most of their Magic Crest and then had to deal with the heavy consequences of their quest for "sacrifices to devour" continuously making larges amounts of new enemies for them.

So the dumbass pretender Oni accidentally walk across Kouma Kishinami and got his ass ruined fifteen days from Sunday despite devouring man, fiends and even vampires(Which definitely meant Dead Apostles in this context)? I mean Kouma was always given huge marks in terms of his power but that's the first time it's truly demonstrated outside of Melty Blood and OG Tsukihime.

"Well, it was really fortuitous that she accepted a personal duel bound by a magical pact, Toosaka Rin. It's already humiliating enough that our Svin and Roland, due to being a wolf and snake, had to negotiate a peaceful resolution to their fight against the Zempulus beast hunter the other day. Having to resort to our superior numbers to beat the Lusendra oni imitation would put a dent in our teacher's glory.", said a young man with the airs of a noble.

:jordangif
I will laugh my ass off if the Zempulus Beast Hunter in Strange Fake is meant to be Kadoc because that would be the funniest shit ever considering how he consistently sees himself as shit but countered 2 very strong Mages because they fuck with Beast Magecraft of varying kinds to the point of having to take the peaceful route than kick his ass.
 
So the dumbass pretender Oni accidentally walk across Kouma Kishinami and got his ass ruined fifteen days from Sunday despite devouring man, fiends and even vampires(Which definitely meant Dead Apostles in this context)? I mean Kouma was always given huge marks in terms of his power but that's the first time it's truly demonstrated outside of Melty Blood and OG Tsukihime.
Where does Kouma even stand currently? My man need some zenkais
 
Where does Kouma even stand currently? My man need some zenkais

Kouma's big issue is like everyone else in the Tsukihime side that's not current from the Blue Moon section:

Not really fleshed out and not given much to show why they are powerful as fuck outside of potential parts in Type Lumina. Ahika, for instance, got a huge ass Zenkai with how she's able to fight Ushiwakamaru in an actual bout(though not to the death and didn't even need to invert to beat her, just her ridiculous Magecraft is enough to do so.

Kouma is definitely getting an obvious glowup when we finally get to him, the real issue is if he will even be in Red Garden or it will be something else featuring him. Of course, I'm not sure if Hisui and Kohaku are monoliths of power(I doubt it unless Nasu changes them too) but yeah, you get my point.
 
. Here is the translation, if you like, read it and get it

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That was the site we were just at. Though there were remnants of Latio’s hiding place, it seemed that she had long since moved out. After discovering that, we rushed out to sea immediately toward the other location.

“The coordinates we're heading towards are in the middle of the sea. There are signs that some kind of operation has been taking place there for some time.”

Rin turned suddenly as my mentor pointed to the new location.

“What’s wrong, Rin? Please look forward when you're driving.”

“Oh, why didn’t I notice?” Rin exclaimed, staring unblinkingly at the spot as if she were trying to burn a hole in the map with her eyes.

“What do you mean?”

“I know this place. I’ve investigated it many times.”

“You’ve investigated it?” My mentor frowned.

At exactly that moment, static appeared on the line.

“There’s…fog…” a muffled voice said.

In an instant, a fog as thick as cream had enveloped us. It obstructed my vision, turning the world into a swath of fuzzy, milky white.

“I guess the concealment magecraft I put on the motorboats to hide us from the harbor patrol was entirely unnecessary,” Rin said, a hint of nervousness creeping into her voice.

“Do you think this fog is natural?”

“Of course not.”

Rin shook her head. Her eyes seemed to say that she had accepted the challenge. In the Clock Tower, or perhaps before she came, she was always determined to make her enemies pay.

“—Lord El-Melloi II.” A voice came from somewhere in the mist. It was the same inhuman voice that had first spoken to us on the pirate island.

My mentor gave a slight sigh.

“I see you’ve remembered to add the ‘II’.”

“Are you here to hand us Ergo?” The voice asked, cutting straight to the point. In this case, it was a sort of threat.

“Surely you have already calculated the result, Alchemist of the Atlas Institute.”

“Very well.”

With that, a fuzzy shadow emerged from the mist.

…At first, we were mistaken about its size. I had thought that it was the bone giant, or perhaps a ship made of bone familiars. Though I knew little about Latio beyond her use of bones, she had confessed to not bringing any weapons out of the Atlas Institute.

For that reason, I thought there was a limit to the shadow’s size. Soon, though, it grew to become far larger than I anticipated.

“Whoa…”

I couldn’t help but marvel at its majesty.

It was a ship over a hundred meters long, covered in shells and rotting seaweed. The great masts used to guide it forward were fractured. Though it was easy to imagine its former resplendence, it now seemed like an ill omen.

The phrase “ghost ship” fit it well, even though it was not a Western ship. Its design and shape told at a glance that it hailed from a different ancient civilization. Somehow, whether through design or Mystery, the ship’s builders managed to evoke the same imposing effect as modern ships.

I saw Rin’s throat tremble.

“It can’t be… Zheng He’s ship?!”

I found this name familiar. Wasn’t it the ship that Rin was searching for?

She had only come to Singapore upon hearing about the shipwreck of one of the ships in the nearly country-sized fleet of the seafaring hero Zheng He.

The ship’s hull was encased in something that looked like streaks of white lightning. I immediately realized that it was bone. The same substance that made up the familiars we had fought on the island was now repairing this timeworn ship on the brink of collapse. —No, it must be more than that. No ship like this could sail without a crew.

“It could not be completed in time for our encounter on this island. Rather, it was not necessary in the original plan,” said Latio. “It was only prepared in consideration of the possibility that Ergo could enter Phase 2. Though, of course, Latio wishes that would not happen, it is better to be safe.”

Had her bone alchemy brought the ancient ship into the modern era? It seemed almost mythical, as if she had rescued someone from the crossing into the underworld.

The pirates nearby appeared tense. Who would have imagined that modern pirates would confront a ship from the Middle Ages? Although they must have studied the fundamentals of countering magecraft, they could not have foreseen such an enemy.

“You- you thief!”

The next moment, an impassioned voice rang out in the fog, loud enough to be heard without the radios. Everyone turned to its source, which was naturally the pirate consultant, Rin Tohsaka.

“That’s mine! I spotted it first! Why else do you think I came all the way to Singapore and worked so hard, you thief of an alchemist!”

For a moment, the entire patch of sea was stunned into silence.

For some reason, I felt like the trust between Rin and the pirates had weakened a little. Just a little.

“Um, Miss Tohsaka…”

Just as my mentor was about to interject—

“—Fire.”

The cold command triggered exactly the attack that it suggested. Several rockets were blasted toward us from the ship.

“Rockets!?” Rin cried, eyes widening.

Since gunpowder had already been used in Chinese warfare in Zheng He’s time, perhaps those rockets had also been restored by Latio.

“Duck!”

The pirates responded to Rin’s command even though the situation could have easily frozen them in shock. When the rocket exploded in midair, they had already maneuvered their boats to safety. They also pulled out their own weapons from their hiding places on the boats, including a rocket that tore through the smoke and slammed into the ship.

The impact and the explosion didn’t make the ship tilt at all. With my enhanced vision, I could see that it hadn’t made a scratch.

(Is it the same material as the giant…?!)

Not even Add’s battering ram form could harm the giant. Though the ship’s casing might not be as strong, its protection made all of the pirates’ weapons useless.

“Run!” Rin shouted through the radio.

At the same time, I took up a position on the side of the boat and removed the hook at my right shoulder.

“Add, release first stage restrictions!”

“Ihihihihi! That’s a big one! It's so big that it's pointless! It’s the biggest thing we’ve fought yet, isn’t it?”

The box in my hands changed into a scythe as it chattered, allowing me to cut away the rockets aimed at us. Ergo used his phantasmal arms to protect my blind spots.

“To your left, Gray!”

“Thank you!”

Seven rockets came charging toward us in a chain. Though I could only repel the ones aimed at our boat, Ergo’s arms extended to protect the pirates’ boats. Still, we could not catch everything. One of the rockets exploded after it brushed past our boat, sending us tossing.

“Miss Rin!”

“Oh god…”

Rin only barely managed to regain control of the boat. She clenched the steering wheel as her face grew red. However, instead of calming down, the boat began to shudder erratically, and the treasure ship began to approach.

“Miss Rin!?”

“T-the steering wheel…” Rin stammered, looking baffled at the steering wheel that had popped off its column. No matter how you looked at it, it wasn't a good idea to be removing that of all parts. Her incredulous expression made the disastrous nature of our situation even clearer.

“B-but I didn’t do anything! It just came off!”

“Don't worry, just let me drive!”

Forcefully, my mentor cranked the lever just as several rockets darted into the sea behind us. The shockwaves from them alone blew us away and launched us across massive waves.

Amidst a salvo of sea spray and wind, my mentor forced the steering wheel back onto its column and turn it all the way to the right.

“Do you know how to drive a motorboat, Professor?”

“I drove one when I was traveling around Greece! The rest I learned while playing simulation games with a newcomer to the Department of Law! —That aside, what’s with the acceleration? What did you do to this boat?!”

“I only altered it a little to prepare for a naval battle! I used the fire element to enhance the engine and wind to provide physical barriers on all the boats!”

“Thoughtful of you!” My mentor shot back while driving the boat.

Just as he said, he was not experienced. It took Ergo’s phantasmal arms to stop the boat from capsizing as he made haphazard turns.

(—No—)!

Just as I felt that we had reached the tipping point, I heard Lana’s voice.

“Miss Rin!”

One of the boats in the pirate fleet came alongside us just as we were about to topple. It supported us as if it were scooping us up.

One wrong move, and the two ships would have collided, dooming us all. But the helmsman’s outstanding skill at adjusting the boat’s speed ensured that just the right portion of the boats overlapped. I could not believe that it was the work of Lana until I saw her with my own eyes.

“Oh, thank you, Lana!”

“You’ll have to buy me a parfait on the mainland when we get back!”

With an exaggerated wave, Lana’s boat pulled away.

The rain of rockets had not ceased. Though the physical wards Rin mentioned appeared to block some of them, it would not last long.

At some point, the treasure ship had made its way straight ahead of us, allowing more rockets than ever to reach us.

“Latio will not fight you. Latio will crush you unilaterally.”

(--Were we lured in?!)

With her Thought Partition and Acceleration, it was probably easy for Latio to drive us into a corner, especially since our boat kept losing speed from trying to stay upright.

“So we’ve still come to this,” said my mentor, letting out a bitter sigh. “Gray, use your lance.”

“But…”

Since we were already ensnared, our opponents had likely predicted our next move. In other words, she was probably already thinking about countermeasures. Wouldn’t activating the lance lead to a decisive defeat?

“No, rather, it’s quite convenient for us. I didn’t expect a ghost ship to appear, but what else can we do? Right now, I think we have a chance,” my mentor said, shaking his head.

Finally, I made up my mind.

“Understood. Ergo, can you intercept the attacks for a moment?”

I raised my head and looked squarely at the ship. Regardless of what happened next, I would not lose to the ghost ship in spirit.

I adjusted my breathing, concentrated, and began.


Darken
Gray

Celebrate
Rave
…”

The incantation flowed naturally from me, simultaneously acting as self-suggestion supported by a steady rhythm.

“…
Want
Crave

Corrupt
Deprave
…”

My focus gradually built, and my sense of self gave way to the words on my lips.


Ingraved in me
Grave…me…


I paid no attention to the rockets being fired at the boat. The only thing I was aware of was the treasure I was gifted as a grave keeper of Blackmore Graveyard. The steps to unlock it had seeped into every cell of my being.


A grave for you
Grave…for you…


Dissipate, O ancient mystery.

O sweet enigma, return to nothingness.

“Pseudo-personality suspended. Mana yield exceeds regulation. Second stage restraint rescinded.”

Add’s carefree voice turned into— or perhaps, returned to being robotic. The scythe that devoured spirits turned back into a box, and then back into its original form, which Add had only been created to hide. I was also but one of the locks that kept this lance sealed.

*

Latio watched from the deck as light swelled above the waves.

“They really have an extraordinary Noble Phantasm like that…”

“That looks like trouble, Lady Latio!” Warned Tangere.

Even the voice of the familiar made by the Atlas Institute was laced with something akin to fear. That was just how the light was.

“Latio knows.”

The bracelet on the blue-haired woman’s hand clanged.

*

A change took place.

Some of the bones covering the ship’s hull grew in size. I realized immediately that it was meant to increase the ship’s defense.

I didn’t care.

What did that matter now?

Though my body became simply a mechanism to activate the lance, I heard one of my companions mutter something.

"...It's exactly like her
Sword of Promised Victory
Excalibur
..."

Ah, Rin must have seen it.

King Arthur’s Excalibur was one of the world’s most famous Noble Phantasms, but it was only one of her many treasures.

In my hands, I held another of them, the holy lance that had impaled the traitor Mordred and struck the last note of King Arthur’s legend.

Without fear or hesitation, I grasped the light that poured from the box.


The Lance that Shines
—Rhongo—


Magical Energy that was enough to wipe a small island from the map formed a spiral around my arm. It had become more familiar to me over the years.

I hurled it forward as I announced its true name. A hurricane of dazzling light enveloped the world, whipping up a storm like a dragon in flight.

Its power could have made someone think that the sun had appeared in this patch of sea. Shining with harsh, miraculous light, Magical Energy accelerated relentlessly, turning into destructive particles that obliterated everything it touched. If not for the alchemist’s dense fog, the light would have been visible from the mainland.

I saw Latio freeze for a tenth of a second as the light subsided, for Zheng He’s ship had been torn in half. The lance’s radiance vaporized everything that it touched from the hull to the deck. What remained was red-hot and smoldering. I doubted that even a meteorite would be able to do so much damage.

“Was that your trump card?” Muttered Latio, but then quickly denied it and looked toward the front of the deck. “No, did you really use your trump card to escape?”

I heard another voice from the treasure ship.

“Gray, are you alright?”

“W-what?”

I nodded, stood up, and realized that I was on the treasure ship’s deck. Ergo’s phantasmal arms had pulled me here after I activated the lance.

The pieces of bone littering the waves looked like the surface of an alien planet, or like the intestines of some decaying animal adrift there. I could feel it throbbing through the soles of my feet.

“I never thought I would… ever board a ghost ship,” my mentor gasped. I thought the same.

I quietly walked over to him. He was not on his feet, probably because he had overexerted himself earlier.

Add was back in scythe form. In the past, activating Rhongomyniad would have made it listless for half a day. Now, I could continue fighting to protect my mentor.

“Latio’s calculation is complete,” announced the blue-haired woman. “Latio predicted the speed that Rhongomyniad diminished, measured its position, and gave up on the center in favor of protecting the sides. …Even so, only the bare minimum of its sailing ability was retained.”

To tell the truth, I had activated the lance with the intention of obliterating it, but Zheng He’s treasure ship held. Was that because of its design, Latio’s Alchemy, or both?

Seeing that the attack would not destroy the ship, my mentor gave the signal for Ergo to pull us onto it.

“But if we fire that Noble Phantasm, we can devour them through sheer volume.”

Latio raised her bangled arm.

As if she had waved a conductor’s baton, a wave of bone familiars sprung up around us in the shapes of spiders, wolves, and even bats.
 
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Jester dodged by a hair's breadth and wall-jumped his way up the alley's emergency staircase.
"Whew, that was close...Wasn't this thing loaded with Hydra venom? That's the kind of
wicked toxin that kills concepts, so despite me having abandoned the course of the living, I still
wouldn't want to have a taste of that!"
The magical energy coated in dusky mud reacted complexly with the hydra miasma the
arrowtips were laced with, provoking an enormous distortion in space as they traversed the gaps
between the ground and the sky.
With a thunderous noise, clouds of dust rose, engulfed in the world distortion caused by the
arrow shot, taking the form of a black-colored colossus.
The Hydra.
The trajectories of the nine arrows became nine jaws rushing to take a bite out of the world,
as did the legendary serpent he once sent to its grave.
An ordinary man would see only a black sandstorm, but anyone remotely sensitive to magical
energy could understand how abnormal this was.
It wasn't an illusion, much less Summoning Magecraft.
Through a combination of the overwhelming techniques that the always battle-ready hero
spent his life cultivating, the ominous spell of curse resembling jet-black mud which he obtained
in exchange for discarding his divine aura, and the sheer volume of magical energy supplied by
his Master, Nine Lives finally developed the move that manifested its former nemesis into the
world.
Needless to say, this wasn't the real Hydra, only an almost miraculous feat created by a part
of the Noble Phantasm that put the legendary poison dragon to rest.
This force traversed the world, bending the laws of fate and physics to its will.
I leave this here, I don't know why the post was deleted
 
I leave this here, I don't know why the post was deleted

If you want to know why it was deleted, it was because I told Blade to delete plenty of posts from here that deviates from the Thread. If you don't understand, I'll make it clearer:

King, you need to stop posting random shit in here too damn often without any basis or thought to it. In some cases, we already long since covered some of them(What is the point of bringing in Hansa blocking the poker chip that's as fast as a bullet... when ChaosTheory put that same thing in the Nasuverse Respect Thread here?).
Some of these are alright but then they lead into double posts which aren't needed at all and just clutter the thread with information that's all over the place rather than being neat and tidy.

Some of the stuff you bring in here is fine but alot of it is basically stuff we know, stuff with not enough context or it's just the most random stuff ever(Like why bring in anything from Lostbelt 7 when FGONA will get it in 2 months and people will cover it then if it's anything new). That's the problem with your posts here and why I will probably get a mod to do some more cleanup because some of your posts are still a bit redundant or you double post when you don't need to(Or in other cases, you bring in the entire thing and not break it down, something I did exactly after your post to give you a hint on how to do it).

EDIT: It ain't just you(pretty sure Blade deleted alot of the pointless arguments and tangents that happened here) but it is something of note to bring up.
 
What does "killing concepts" mean in that context anyway?

Like it nullifies powers, or..? I'm sure there's an actual demonstration of it but I'm curious.
 
What does "killing concepts" mean in that context anyway?

Like it nullifies powers, or..? I'm sure there's an actual demonstration of it but I'm curious.

In the context of Nasuverse, where "concepts" are things certain characters can create, destroy, and at times apply to themselves/others, it means removing the associated concept from the target completely.

For example Tiamat does not normally have a concept of death. In-universe, there is no way for something of this world to kill Tiamat because the concept of death does not apply to her, and thus no matter what she will never cross the line from "alive" to "dead". First Hassan fixes that applying the concept of death, which meant that by damaging her enough you could now "kill" her.

Another more direct example is the time Shiki killed Fujino's cancer. Shiki stabbed her, and from that point on Fujino not only no longer had cancer but her body worked as if she'd never had it. The concept of "cancer" (or maybe tuberculosis, idk which one it was) was removed from the existence of Fujino.

A particularly funny example is Saint George, who uses his NP to apply the concept of "evil dragon" to his enemy....and then stab them with his sword which destroys that concept, and thus the target. :skully
 
What does "killing concepts" mean in that context anyway?

Like it nullifies powers, or..? I'm sure there's an actual demonstration of it but I'm curious.

As Cross stated, destroying concepts... is basically exactly what it's stated on the tin.
Concepts in the Nasuverse are basically things connected to the character, the world or more depending on the character themselves(i.e. Cu's Gae Bolg Thrust uses the Casuality of The World as a basis meanwhile Tiamat having no concept of death is basically her not having a concept of Death that Humanity cannot remotely fathom).

Thus when you kill a concept in the Nasuverse, it's basically killing... the concept. Like for instance, Siegfried's Armor of Fafnir and Caenis' Blessing of Poseidon basically gives them absurd defenses that unless you can circumvent them(i.e. hit Siegfried's weakspot or fight Caenis away from the sea), you have to play by their rules(This is also how Heracles' God Hand works) and no, you can't just overpower the hax in a normal sense because yes, Nasu covered that when it came to Heracles' God Hand.

BUT, if you are able to straight up destroy their defenses, hell or high water, you basically killed their concept as they are at their core conceptual defenses.

It's why it tends to be a bitch when it comes to debates because while there ARE some conceptual defenses that can be overwritten by enough offense, some... can't(Karna's Armor and Earrings can even no-sell the Moon Cell being able to erase people out of existence and while the Moon Cell is wanked way too hard, it's still a bullshit ass supercomputer) and it's why certain beings are just so damn hard to kill because basically... their conceptual defenses are far stronger than others(Like Sefar's bullshit).

Another more direct example is the time Shiki killed Fujino's cancer. Shiki stabbed her, and from that point on Fujino not only no longer had cancer but her body worked as if she'd never had it. The concept of "cancer" (or maybe tuberculosis, idk which one it was) was removed from the existence of Fujino.

It's Appendicitis, not Cancer.
 
It's also worth noting that to some extent people in the Nasuverse rely on their inherent concepts to interact with others. The reason that aliens and especially TYPEs are so goddamn hard to kill is because they don't have any of the concepts that Gaian people are used to and are able to interact with. ORT can just walk through anything that isn't raw power or mass because the concepts attached to the more esoteric stuff does not matter to him unless they get somehow attached to him first.
 
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