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Imagine the salt if Palpatine were to win
ha It would be enough to make Ben vs Hal look like a joke
that actually might drive niggas insane I'd love to see it 
Maybe @The Hunter could wank Palps to beyond Emps level with weird novel force feats somehow putting Palps above even the Bedlam spirits and Ableoth, but I don't know anything obvious that Palps has to really beat Big E for DB to stick onto to have Palps win for that salt sadly.Imagine the salt if Palpatine were to winha It would be enough to make Ben vs Hal look like a joke
The theme from Yates I expect would be killer though. Maybe some inspiration from the Mechanicus OST, JW's work, and Yate's appreciation for electronic music I could see some Pertubator influences in that track as well as that could fit nicely.
How strong it the Big E these days?
Unless something recently massively changed, EU/Lucas Palpatine at his peak would still beat the Emperor of Mankind. Brakiss was fucking with solar flares and warping the cronoas of a star just as a bit feat and he's a literal who compared to any named mid tier Force-User.
Gaming Workshop made it impossible for DB to touch 40K without getting sued
Called it
I didn't put him above the Bedlam Spirits or Abeloth
Been a bit since I caught up on any HH novel series development, but Emps is Galatic level range, at least SS+ DC/Dura, and MFTL, with to my knowledge better manipulation of Space/Time and better Psychic fuckery.
I meant using weird novel feats, Iirc you once argued for muiltiversal Palps with those lmao. Brakiss iirc was Jedi Academy/Early New Republic era, not much more I remember about him if I'm correct lolI didn't put him above the Bedlam Spirits or Abeloth
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Solar flare and corona stuff is like large planet level, Emperor's strongest attack when he killed Horus was supernova level IIRC. He could tackle with C'tan who eat stars and spawn black holes. Also his psychic power maintains the astronomicon on a galactic scale so he has similar range. When it comes down to the final stage between Force Ghost Palps vs Warp Child Emps, well Emps has fought the universal embodiments of all emotions for ten thousand years and held them back from consuming the galaxy and potentially universe. When their physical bodies are shedded, it's not going to be pretty.
Emprah also has a massive skill and experience advantage, IIRC masterminding tens of millennia worth of martial, tactical, combative, and scientific knowledge going back ~37k years. Even the composite of Palpatine's knowledge only goes back ~3500 years.
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No, it was described "being like" a supernova. And this happened inside of the Vengeful Spirit which was hovering over the Imperial Palace, on Terra. Brakiss' solar flare feat is far more impressive because we actually see him do this. He's an ant to any named Force-User of worth; Naga Sadow had done the same to multiple stars and could with the Sith Corsair, cause multiple supernovas in multiple star systems with its magic amplifying his power.
Sidious powering up after killing Plagueis caused a disturbance and quake in the Force that shook stars.
C'tan have routinely been taken down by Necron Overlords like Trayzan the Infinite. Their Shards are quite weak and it was directly shown to us that the Emperor only fought a weakened shard of an already weakened Void Dragon after he had been blasted by a dozen or more Blackstone Fortresses. The C'tan have never manifested the power people have claimed they have. Then again VSB has claimed "solar system" level Sigismund and galaxy level Ahriman, so I guess that's where its coming from.
The Chaos Gods are not universal, not even close.
The Shadow of the Warp created by the Tyranids who have already devoured other galaxies before coming to the Milky Way Galaxy in the late 41st century are literally something new to both daemons and the Chaos Gods themselves.
The Chaos Gods are entirely bound within the Warp/Immaterium mirroring the Milky Way Galaxy.
Palpatine literally had mastered every single Jedi, Dark Jedi, and Sith ability created over 35,000+ years. He also was so good at this he was inventing powers and abilities purely for his own sport as per the Dark Empire handbook:
So here you have it:
- Palpatine kills his master which causes a planet as massive as Coruscant to shake and cause near and distant stars to pulsate from his power up
- maintains the shroud of the dark side by himself even after Maul is seemingly lost and Plagueis dead against the entire light side of the Force manifested by the Jedi Order for over 13+ years and disabling their long-range clairvoyance and precoginition across the galaxy
- muddles the future so not even the most powerful Jedi can scry it
- his reborn Clone required every single Jedi in history along with the combined power of the entire light side of the Force to drag his spirit to the Netherworld of the Force
- can casually brainwash, mind-control, and telepathically alter trillions of minds without trying as he did so just to hide his personal Super Star Destroyer within the cityscape of Coruscant
- even a trained and powerful Sith Lord like Plagueis upon encountering Palpatine before he had any training in the dark side or as a Sith apprentice had already massively reflexively built psychic barriers that prevented Plagueis from probing his mind; mind you Plagueis is so powerful that his mere presence on Naboo created the worst snowstorm and winter in its entire recorded history
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Are those even standard
I don't even understand how Trion Even operates given that was also a one time thing
Trion is a one time powerup given by an alternate deity separate from Cyttorak.
8th day juggs is also one time, but involves Juggernaut taking Cyttorak's power by force via pure willpower, forcing him to sit in the backseat for a change while he takes full control.
It's the only amp he can access on his own, everything else are powerups that we're handed to him.
8th day overall is probably too ambiguous for them to touch upon it anyways, plus, Knuckles time travelling is a far more straight forward win con than Juggs having internal arguments with his demon, when it comes to the actual fighting segment.