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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

OtherGalaxy said:
It's mainly funny bc there aren't a ton of TF fans on SB, and he actually is knowledgeable about the series, he's just either super conservative (to the point it ends up just being wrong about certain things) or there's gaps and he fills those with tfwiki which can lead to issues like this.
Here's a really good example
It's stuff that is technically not wrong but doesn't really account for the many examples out of this and other lore that contradicts it, especially as this thread was using Unicron at his strongest and not any of his random other selves that have kinda completely all over the place showings from multiversal+++ to just standard planet level. The idea that Unicron has no way to win when his first action is sleeping through a multiversal big bang is kinda funny though, but again this is not something you would be aware of if you weren't putting some seemingly unrelated bits of material together or were just looking at scans/wiki pages in isolation rather than the whole.

Nothing against the guy and he's done good helping stop the one other notable SB TF fan who kinda wanks all sorts of random characters in weird ways but when it comes to the cosmic stuff he tends to lowball like hell
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Nah that's the worst part too:
SB does tend to have some people who know what they are talking about when it comes to Nasuverse Debates as of late... but it usually just ends with them stupidly downplaying the Nasuverse in the weirdest of fashions like if put against a JJK character, somehow:

Like imagine stating that White Mask Obito without the Rinnegan and as he was somehow massively outstats Cu based on nothing because "he just does" but then later on perfectly point out how truly absurd ORT is to say that it being just Planetary or Sub Planetary makes zero sense.

Anyone who truly genuinely knows White Mask Obito... is that he was carried by his Zetsu body which has natural healing components and by his Kamui. We have seen in a dead ass straight fight, he loses to Kakashi in a pretty close fight and he did not "shrug off" a KCM2 Naruto Rasengan, he only got saved by his Zetsu body. He doesn't outstat Cu by a "massive margin" nor can he oneshot him, it's massive wanking to the max by people who legit believe only a few Naruto characters are higher than subsonic and are barely that powerful.
 
I could just be wrong here. But I distinctly remember that Accel was pmuch the edgelord character archetype alongside Sasuke in like 2000s-2010s.
 
Cryso Agori said:
I could just be wrong here. But I distinctly remember that Accel was pmuch the edgelord character archetype alongside Sasuke in like 2000s-2010s.
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You aren't wrong, he was just like him and Touma was once known as the "Equality" meme before Konosuba appeared and fully usurped that from them.
To Aru was most popular during that timeframe but died off extremely fast after that outside of Japan to the point I barely hear people even mentioned Season 3 outside of "It's about time" and not even in the Bleach fashion where everyone was insanely hyped for the final season being animated.
 
Toaru dying out

*Laughs in Railgun Season 4 and ITEM anime both this year
 


Isn't shirou completely fucked by the fact that unlike Ritsuka he can't befriend every single servant?

Psure it just takes one servant who doesn't like him to fuck everything up.

Also psure Ritsuka knows magical kungfu and multiple spells so he's fine unless he's fighting a servant.
 
Cryso Agori said:


Isn't shirou completely fucked by the fact that unlike Ritsuka he can't befriend every single servant?

Psure it just takes one servant who doesn't like him to fuck everything up.
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Man, I just read that but yes, a majority of the people in there agree that Shirou gets torn apart before he can even pass Orleans(Real shit though, he most likely wouldn't pass Fuyuki due to his insane Survivor's Guilt), let alone ever get close to Goetia.

Meanwhile Ritsuka dies because he wouldn't have Avalon and wouldn't be able to survive against Cu long enough to even summon a Servant nor get Artoria from it.
It's weird someone even put that there because yeah, Shirou's temperament would absolutely get him slaughtered by an Evil Servant or basically not cool them down remotely enough to sway them to his side. Shirou is full "My Way Or The Highway" type dude.

EDIT: The only Nasuverse MC I can even believe can get through FGO is unironically Hakuno Kishinami and vice versa for Ritsuka clearing Fate/Extra, CCC and the Extella series.
 
Cryso Agori said:


Isn't shirou completely fucked by the fact that unlike Ritsuka he can't befriend every single servant?

Psure it just takes one servant who doesn't like him to fuck everything up.

Also psure Ritsuka knows magical kungfu and multiple spells so he's fine unless he's fighting a servant.
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I mean, the start of FGO is also Fuyuki

Where the initial big threat is an angry Archer Emiya sniping anyone who gets close to Salter and the Grail.

So Shirou is just insta-dead via hate boner arrow to the skull :skully
 
pucxa said:
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...rk-grayson-invincible.1218695/#post-109631054

Shouldn’t Captain Marvel win even if you don’t count her feat of reigniting a star also no one has tried posting her feats or scaling .
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Yes, Captain Marvel absolutely destroys Mark even with MCU feats and not counting the "Reigniting a Star" in The Marvels.
The easiest example of this is basically beating Thanos' ass in Endgame and requiring him to use the Power Stone on her full blast which didn't even kill her either as well as going straight MFTL at the end of her movie and easily tearing through Thanos' and Kree Warships in Endgame and her movie respectively.

She would tear Mark apart very, very thoroughly. But SB tends to downplay all of the MCU to absurd extremes so it's not just you.

Nolan would be a far better matchup for her and that's not if we later see Thragg later on after that(though she would still win because "lol reigniting a dying Star lol".
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
Yes, Captain Marvel absolutely destroys Mark even with MCU feats and not counting the "Reigniting a Star" in The Marvels.
The easiest example of this is basically beating Thanos' ass in Endgame and requiring him to use the Power Stone on her full blast which didn't even kill her either as well as going straight MFTL at the end of her movie and easily tearing through Thanos' and Kree Warships in Endgame and her movie respectively.

She would tear Mark apart very, very thoroughly. But SB tends to downplay all of the MCU to absurd extremes so it's not just you.

Nolan would be a far better matchup for her and that's not if we later see Thragg later on after that(though she would still win because "lol reigniting a dying Star lol".
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Funny how outside of that one feat in the films she's weak as fuck outside of powerscaling since she wastes time in the Marvels having hand to hand fights with random mooks who should pose no threat to her and should require no effort.

Than again that is a MCU problem in general. Atleast even in DCAU financial flops like Black Adam they bother to show you how powerful he is even with random grunts where he is not even trying and just insantly beating the shit out of them with his speed and strength with no hesitation.
 
Cryso Agori said:


Isn't shirou completely fucked by the fact that unlike Ritsuka he can't befriend every single servant?

Psure it just takes one servant who doesn't like him to fuck everything up.

Also psure Ritsuka knows magical kungfu and multiple spells so he's fine unless he's fighting a servant.
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This turned into enough of a cluster fuck on the actual page that I feel it's worth addressing here :skully

Unless we directly transplant Ritsuka into Shirou's place including a bunch of character specific choices (like why he saw the first fight at all) to get him killed by Cu, then he puts his foot up the ass of everyone else involved once he's summoned a Servant.

Even limiting him to specifically the Saber class gives him access to a bunch of "fuck you i win" Servants, and he can still summon Shadow Servants without Vhaldea's support.

Hell if this is LB Ritsuka then he doesn't even need to actually summon a real Servant, he just dogwalks the entire war himself. Guy is explicitly an equal to Wodime in combat at that point.

The only way Ritsuka is in danger is if we take away his abilities and equipment without giving him Shirou's as a replacement, and then make him do a bunch of stuff only Shirou would do so he dies on night 1.
 
NostalgiaFan said:
Funny how outside of that one feat in the films she's weak as fuck outside of powerscaling since she wastes time in the Marvels having hand to hand fights with random mooks who should pose no threat to her and should require no effort.

Than again that is a MCU problem in general. Atleast even in DCAU financial flops like Black Adam they bother to show you how powerful he is even with random grunts where he is not even trying and just insantly beating the shit out of them with his speed and strength with no hesitation.
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