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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever

Tablos said:
MCB radius and 40 meters deepness , thats into ''Asteroid impact''territory , Frieren isn´t matching that.
also i love how they thing ''she can resist temperatures that are near to absolute 0 because she at some point resisted some enviroment cold''
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What's ironic is that's not how Idea Blood works...
Despite Nasu stated how Hot or Cold Vlov's Heat and Cold are, what makes Idea Blood/Principle so terrifying is that it's basically the equivalent of Divinity for Divine Spirits but with no regard to the Planet being able to regulate it.
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The Twenty-seven Dead Apostle Ancestors (死徒二十七祖, Shito Nijūnanaso?) are a grouping of twenty-seven Rank IX Dead Apostles. The very apex of all Dead Apostles, the title represents their way of being.[1] The Dead Apostle Ancestors have existed for three thousand years. They are primarily...
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Idea Blood: Hemonomic Principle (原理血戒(イデアブラッド), Genri Kekkai(Ideaburaddo)?) is the blood that makes an Ancestor an Ancestor, said to be the "Mandate (戒め, Imashime?) of the Original Cause (大本, Ōmoto?, "Root/Origin") engraved upon their soul". A "Truth" that they have each attained, the worldview that makes up the foundation of their "thirst". A Singularity (特異点, Tokuiten?) that paints over the planet's physical laws just by circulating blood. Wherever an Ancestor asserts their Idea Blood becomes their territory, subject to the influence of their Principle's curse. Arcueid compares it to a "crown" as the inheritance of the Idea Blood will raise the inheritor to a Rank IX Ancestor regardless of their original rank.[25][26] It is also possible for new Idea Bloods to be created, as magi who became Dead Apostles and then later became Dead Apostle Ancestors are those who created their own Idea Blood through a vast amount of time and research.[26]
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It's why Arcueid had to go to such "extremes" in needing to block both Vlov's Heat and Cold and why it's insanely impressive Ciel can just tank it because "lel Magic Resistance"(Yeah, Frieren can match in scope the same person who can actually withstand TWO Idea Blood unlike Vlov with just one and can use that as a byproduct of using the Magical Theoretical equivalent of Excalibur twice). But back to the point, Frieren wouldn't be able to block anything from a Idea Blood/Principle in the first place and saying otherwise... is just dumb.
 
Paxton said:
actually quantify this real quick

:aizen
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find out how fast you need to move to make time seem stopped to superhumans
then find out how fast you need to move to make time seem stopped to people who could see you moving within the originally stopped time.

I went and asked chatgpt cause its good at calculations and shit and it came to the conclusion that Solomon is moving at Light Speed or Above at minimum

But this is ChatGPT using 1 meter of distance for this sort of thing. so depending on how far Solomon is moving it could be higher or lower

:heston
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
It is.



Basically, it's a massively asshurt Shirou fanboy who wants to rile up FGO fans by showing how "truly goated" the other protagonists are but not Ritsuka because "He relies on Servants"(Again love how they don't include Hakuno Kishinami in this or shit on them either). The irony is that I have seen far more Anti-Ritsuka fanboys get riled up infinitely easier than any Ritsuka fanboy that gets riled up over this.
Even I can admit that Ritsuka ultimately doesn't have the major personality due to the nature of gacha over an actual VN/LN format(I tend to love when other gacha fanboys try and act like their protagonists are better when in an overall vacuum, they all suffer from the same issue) but this is just pathetic as it basically places the point that you can only be a good aspect is if you can "be a GOAT".
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It's a really tiresome and stupid trend they still do despite it being absolutely retarded on it's face. It can't be "X character can be FTL and no one else is", it's somehow "You said X is FTL? Then everyone is FTL right?! Let me show you this feat which didn't discount at all what happened but I assure you it happen many times before too and thus it's consistent" everytime.

It's not that they even give actual proof, they just use the "Just trust me bro" defense and you still have people not even fact checking it and just agreeing and then of course, they never try and prove their side is true either. It's like everytime you see people bring up Seven Deadly Sins and then scale Galand's "Mountain Cut" to every character after the fact... even if they did nothing remotely to the same degree but don't expect them to call it out though.
 

@Astaro, @Paxton
Medaka and Othinus on the same team
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What the fuck warrents this shit
LN Bullshit
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In Overlord, Bounded Fields and Reality Marbles are Treated as World Items effect,
Making Overlord Characters possessing World Items automatically immune to Such things

Like Example-
When Pandora Actor impersonating Ainz, Dragon Lord Using Dragon warrior Armour who Used - world Isolation Barrier- (wild Magic) Blocking Anything to either Enter or leave Barrier and Blocking Teleportation

But it automatically failed against Albedo Possessing world Item
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I don't remember either of these even remotely being a thing in Overlord, let alone there being equivalences...
Also, unless we genuinely know the scale of such things, they cannot be compared to Bounded Fields or Reality Marbles.

I think the logic they're going for is the effect is similar to depiction of nature and society, and world isolation barrier. Basically the world item allows aura to sever a section of the world from reality, and she is the master of the doimain within able to shape it in various ways to hamper/harm those within. World isolation barrier doesn't allow the same degree of control but similarly creates an area of reality disconnected from the world.

So it's not really that it's a world item but rather that the effect lines up with the world items and wild magic world items allow them to resist.
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Feels like a Texture = Phase situation all over again...

Uhh most bounded fields can be simply walked through and also have entrances and exits + minor misc effects like detection. World Isolation Barrier is an impermeable barrier with no entrance and exit and blocks everything in existence (in overlord) including simply walking through.

Honestly I think you have to go to reality marbles to get a comparable effect under "the same logic". If that makes sense. Gils babylonia barrier, that he made as a caster with an unknown cast / prep time so not really usable as Archer in the middle of a fight, isn't really comparable to a reality marble. So no world item bullshit.
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1. Most Bounded Fields cannot be simply "walked through"(This is really some extremely stupid shit right here) and we have many, many examples of strong enough Bounded Fields can even ward off Servants. It's like people forget what Kiritsugu did was simultaneously drastic as shit and Kayneth being a big enough idiot to not take over the entire Hotel and use it as his grounds to avoid what he did.

2. Has World Isolation Barrier been used more than once or was it JUST the one time? And how the hell would Pandora's Actor know Wild Magic and how would Ainz? I thought the entire existence of Wild Magic was that it's the one thing YGGDRASIL players and NPCs CAN'T use?

3. Medea can canonically use Bounded Fields to such an extent that they would be Reality Marbles all in name, that always gets ignored when it comes to the real intracices of Bounded Fields.
 
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Damn, didn’t know it was 2015 all over again

Well that or trexalfa running his mouth again
 

Battle of Self Hype: Doctor Doom vs Aizen

Between these two which one is more lost in their own sauce and believes in their own hype. Who has the stronger ego? We got Aizen who attempted to claw his way to overthrowing a figurehead God and becoming a true God, and Doom who has beef with his alternate reality versions and believe he...
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lol 4th dimension reiatsu said:
Besides Doom being more like a cartoony villain, most of his ego is working from a deep seated resentment and insecurity, a lot of which comes from being surpassed by Reed.
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And? Aizen's motivation at least in part (if you take Ichigo's interpretation seriously) is loneliness, despite the fact that his loneliness is his own damn fault, even if this didn't come across as total bullshit that isn't represented by the character we actually see at all.
lol 4th dimension reiatsu said:
Aizen would never change reality just to pretend he has his nemesis life, that was some of he lamest a villain has done in comics.
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No he'd rather rise up just to dethrone a corpse, for no other reason than his ego wouldn't tolerate that thing being above him in the pecking order.

Really not the route you want to go when defending Aizen here. :maybe
 
Just to lose in the end to a teenage Shinigami after a few hours of training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber Dangai
 
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