Recent content by Salfarc

I don't see why would anyone who knows the context and follow the story would think Gil is slow because of it. That's like saying Saitama is slow because most people can still hit him. Like I get your point is that Shirou is actually fast, so Gil have to be fast as well but it doesn't matter since the point is that Gil explicitly hold back, so even if Shirou is slow as snail it just means Gil hold back a loooot. Sheldon's argument is in no way logical and canonical. Which is weird considering I don't remember Sheldon being one of those who argue like this. I'd consider this more of Nursery Rhyme and R S...Especially Nursery Rhyme

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/gilgamesh-fate-vs-a-bolo-mk-xxxiii.1162527/page-3 Ok damn @shiny wasn't kidding, Sheldon become insane here. He actually use Gil vs Shirou as an argument that Gil is slow. Bruh. Gil lose vs Shirou=Shirou stronger than any Servants moment.

But calling it out at least will take the problem to the surface for other to see, even when they refuse to

I mean, why not? Thats an issue they have against Fate, why not call them out when they don't seem to find it an issue for other verse?

did you call them out?

Saitama technically is a joke char too...By his logic Saitama is weak then?

I specifically say "If Ippo imagine he can", he imagine he can. Doesn't mean he can. But it looks like you are saying if a character imagine they can do something that means they can. Like by your own logic Gojo just need to imagine he can destroy the universe and kill Salter and if he imagine that, that means he can destroy the universe and win vs Salter despite not having the power to make his imagination come true. I bet if someone use that argument vs you, you won't let it fly. ...Hypocrite. And you guys talk shit about SB. But ok, that checks out with the previous argument you guys are using. That being said that Salter thread sure is weird considering the conclusion are achieved since 1st page...Reminds me of that Alcides vs Nazarick thread.

No, those characters ability happens in real life in their respective series. SAO didn't, so the logic applies as well, Luffy vs Kirito is Luffy vs normal human. Way too miss the point. Do you all actually believe, if character A have abilities that only applies within their mind, vs char B they have to fight in-universe real life, that char A win because of abilities they can't use in the real fight?... Like if Ippo imagine he can use fist that breaks the universe, that means he win vs any one who can't break universe? Geez. Do you think Kirito will win against Hajime no Ippo? Like an average gamer physical build win vs a professional boxer? .-. This is even worse since PT don't have the ability to access metaverse anymore.

Thinking about it, if we are talking about gaslight, you guys are being gaslit that their power is real...When multiple proves they are not. Like legit at that point you might as well say a character can beat another character simply by imagining it despite not having power to make imagination comes true. Oh well, I already rest my case.

Yes we get arrested on purpose and it happens at the casino. There is a reason there is a cutscene specifically for that, even if you do everything for good ending. Both Bad Ending and Good Ending comes from that. No one is saying Metaverse can't enter real world, I am saying Metaverse isn't a real world. That's 2 different thing. This are all canonical facts we talked: Metaverse is a mental scape Persona 1~3 happens in real world Persona 4 happens in another world Persona 5 Persona happens in Metaverse and not real life. (Tactica seems to be different place though not Metaverse) Akechi shoot Joker in bad ending, and Joker dies The twist in good ending is that, Akechi shoot the cognitive Joker so he didn't die in good ending, this means the one at bad ending happens in real life Joker took gun shot from Akechi and die in bad ending but didn't die from multiple energy explosives in Metaverse We get arrested on purpose They arrest us after Sae's palace, at the casino The casino...

By the same logic, you also don't get any ending, since the arrest happens anyway. That is the reason why Sae even get to interrogate you, because you got arrested and got contacted by Futaba to save you. The bad and the good ending have the same opening, you got arrested in real life right after Casino which were at Metaverse, showing the phasing between Metaverse and Real Life, the casino then disappear afterwards...Well technically speaking it's disappear during. Ren even ask Sae "I am arrested at Casino, is there supposed to be any casino where I was arrested?" then she realizes, there is supposed to be none. Might as well say the entire story doesn't actually happen in the story. :facepalm You guys mock SB but really you guys are pretty much the same with how asinine the arguments are. Haah.

How does it defeats the point? If anything it further cements my point, the twist happens in Metaverse not in real life. Killing Cognitive Joker doesn't kill real Joker, that is literally the entire twist. What happens in Metaverse, doesn't directly affect physical world. Only when you fuse them, or when you kill someone's cognition of themselves it will affect, the first because of the fuse, the latter because it is their personal mental acknowledgement of themselves How are you not reading that? Akechi not realizing he got send inside metaverse doesn't mean he can use Loki in real world, or his Loki can hit someone in real life from Metaverse. So far none of you are giving valid argument, its literally just you guys not wanting to accept canonical facts. Crossthehorizon miss the point of the twist too.

The...Metaverse happens because Sae pulls switcheroo on you... So its not on metaverse... Without that Akechi didn't enter metaverse, so he did it on real life. Again, that is the reason it said "you lost your life". The whole plan twist is that Akechi shots the cognitive joker, not the real you. The bad ending, you lost your life, the real you die, you are the one who get shot, not the cognitive you.

Bruh their power doesn't work in real life. That is the point. This differs from saying Touma lost his Imagine Breaker. Imagine if someone say they can win against Coronzon by simply imagining they can, despite not having power to make their imagine come true by themselves. So let's say Matou Shinji meet To Aru's Coronzon and imagine beating her to death with abilities in his mind that he can't use in real life, does that means he beats her? Okay.

In the good ending it's the twist. In the bad ending its the real Joker...There is a reason it is bad ending you know... There is a reason it is stated you lost your life. It happens in real life in bad ending.