Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Adamant soul

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That's honestly a damn good question, I have seen Pit do some shit but it's usually from massive levels of aid from the items he has rather than his own physical strength but at the same time, you can say the same thing for Link and he has a bunch of nonsense under his own sleeve too so...
Well according to his profile here, it says he's island level with MHS speed and FTL reactions.
Could be outdated but if that's really the best he's got, EMIYA should wreck his shit.
 

Took 21 fucking pages for the fucking topic to end... not because of the typical Fate shit or how Fate shit works against Overlord shit... but because the Overlord wankers wouldn't give a single iota of a fucking reason why Alcides would lose to Nazarick to any degree without it basically going to fanfiction...

:tiredofthis

If people wonder why I see the Overlord fanbase as one of the most stupid and incoherent(and I'm not the only one who believes that), here you go, parading over a mid series that the author has no goddamned idea how anything works and just throws in shit from D&D with no rhyme or reason about a protagonist that is capable of winning the game from the start but is too retarded to do so because of some really stupid shit.
 

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Speaking of that, I have that entire scene on Youtube of the characters dealing with the Angra Mainyu shades(both Heroes and Mages alike) which makes the whole thing with JJK even more ridiculous given how many there was and no one died against them.



It honestly obliterates the retarded stamina arguments you hear in SB considering Servants and Masters was fighting against hundreds, if not thousands of Angra Mainyu clones and they never just die on the spot or anything.

Low end suggests that, in theory, there is over 100 million shades when Shirou fights them alongside Caren during "Night at Kageyama". Wouldn't argue hyperbole given how fucking packed the surface area of Fuyuki's streets end up being. Hell, its likely a low ball.

To thoroughly vaporize a person would be something like 3 gigajoules IIRC, the surface area her omnidirectional expansion covered would be measured in at least some 4.5-9 km^2 where you can apparently fit about 10 million people into about a whole square kilometer. 32 megatons for the former, 64 megatons for the latter (latter would ignore the surface area they aren't in with buildings and shit). Comfortably shits on everything in JJK, even the fraction Rho Aias and God Hand are able to interact with and transfer to Hrunting and Caladbolg II.
 
Well according to his profile here, it says he's island level with MHS speed and FTL reactions.
Could be outdated but if that's really the best he's got, EMIYA should wreck his shit.
I was browsing and found this wanked version

 

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Like both Kagatsuchi and Jacklinthebox keep trying to compare Sukuna to the Royal Guards simply because "oh the royal guards were overpowered" ignoring that them being overpowered didn't mean they were unbeatable or couldn't be challenged.

Youpi got stalled by Shoot and got humbled by Killua's speed. Pouf got stalled by Morel and his smoke barrier, Pitou was at the mercy of Gon's malice for all his power due to Komugi. Meruem got humbled by Netero and was killed by the rose bomb.

They all faced actual challenges that forced them to give it there all, unlike Sukuna, who no matter how much damage he takes is seemingly always stronger than the mc's and always has the seemingly omnipotent trump card he keeps holding back.

They're all also better characters than Sukuna too honestly.
key difference I guess is Togashi gave each of the guards internal struggles and stakes that mattered which countered and worked against their strength advantages
Even Youpi, the most "shallow" guard, was actively defeated by his own character development causing him to go from a mindless warrior to being able to consider the positions of his opponents, which resulted in him sparing them and thus going against his original goals. It's one of many reasons the arc works so well. Sukuna only has the strength half of that, so it seems like it's falling flat for many readers.
 
Low end suggests that, in theory, there is over 100 million shades when Shirou fights them alongside Caren during "Night at Kageyama". Wouldn't argue hyperbole given how fucking packed the surface area of Fuyuki's streets end up being. Hell, its likely a low ball.

To thoroughly vaporize a person would be something like 3 gigajoules IIRC, the surface area her omnidirectional expansion covered would be measured in at least some 4.5-9 km^2 where you can apparently fit about 10 million people into about a whole square kilometer. 32 megatons for the former, 64 megatons for the latter (latter would ignore the surface area they aren't in with buildings and shit). Comfortably shits on everything in JJK, even the fraction Rho Aias and God Hand are able to interact with and transfer to Hrunting and Caladbolg II.

I can honestly agree with that considering you need far, far more joules for that to work in the area and the huge number of people that was obliterated into nothing by it as well...
And we can definitely label that it was below the 7th Seal Excalibur as well which further shows just how absurdly out of place anyone in JJK is against Mages, let alone Servants. :diolaugh
 

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I was browsing and found this wanked version

To be fair, he could be that strong, the evidence in question just needs to be analyzed a bit :mjpls
 

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At the very least I do recall Pit flying out of Earth's atmosphere and arriving at a blue star in Chapter 12(?) of the game in about 15 or so seconds

so MFTL Pit doesn't seem too unbelievable :char
 

Salfarc

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This is so much different than this




And damn HI threads keep showing themselves to be the one that derail into people arguing about it. Finally another series takes over Fate from being the one who usually derails.
 
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Because the people there aren't being genuine fanboys about meh series and actually realize how outmatched Yuta is vs. trying to fanfiction extremely stupid reasons why Yuta wouldn't die against Archer and even win.

You have GaRbS there but otherwise, no one offered even remotely a decent reason why Yuta would win, just try and bring down EMIYA's feats(Which doesn't even work with even an OUNCE of scrutiny).

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/kiana-hi3-vs-romulus-quirinus-fate.1146218/page-3
And damn HI threads keep showing themselves to be the one that derail into people arguing about it. Finally another series takes over Fate from being the one who usually derails.

It's because Honkai Impact 3rd has so much shit from it in different media that it's even worse than Fate in that regard(Not helped that people tend to go full VSB when it comes to it on top of that and hyperinflate feats out the ass).
 

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key difference I guess is Togashi gave each of the guards internal struggles and stakes that mattered which countered and worked against their strength advantages
Even Youpi, the most "shallow" guard, was actively defeated by his own character development causing him to go from a mindless warrior to being able to consider the positions of his opponents, which resulted in him sparing them and thus going against his original goals. It's one of many reasons the arc works so well. Sukuna only has the strength half of that, so it seems like it's falling flat for many readers.
it's also the fact that every time the protags so something remotely useful, literally on cue, something happens and sukuna is like "well you see he's not REALLY going at 100%" and it's been done like 5 times in a row now with everything the good guys threw at him failing spectacularly

It's hard to get invested into a fight where the author is very clearly playing favorites down to giving techniques weaknesses they never had before all so his baby boy doesn't get his shit slapped.
 

SupremeZaarin

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Vader solos JJK.

Turns out Infinity + Six Eyes is a better version of The Force

Lolwut, how is it better than an omnipresent energy that determines all of creation?

Gojo basically toys with the dark lord.

He doesn't.

The only problem is force choke although that can be countered by just pushing the enemy away.

How is pushing Vader away is going to make him stop using a Force ability? There are multiple instances of Force abilities being accomplished with a mere thought or even by merely existing.

Darth Vader's usual tactics are useless he can't throw objects

How would Gojo even cut Vader's connection to the Force? This is nonsense.

There are force abilities that can affect space, but Vader has none of them, so infinity probably blocks his attacks.

The Force is omnipresent, infinity means shit to the Force.

if Vader's mental resistance can withstand unlimited void.

According to the book of Sith, a random ass Sith can be trained to put infinite info into someone's mind. So no, Vader isn't going to be mindhaxed.
 

Proto234

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Vader solos JJK.



Lolwut, how is it better than an omnipresent energy that determines all of creation?



He doesn't.



How is pushing Vader away is going to make him stop using a Force ability? There are multiple instances of Force abilities being accomplished with a mere thought.



How would Gojo even cut Vader's connection to the Force? This is nonsense.



The Force is omnipresent, infinity means shit to the Force.



According to the book of Sith, a random ass Sith can be trained to put infinite info into someone's mind. So no, Vader isn't going to be mindhaxed.

Apparently, this is Disney Vader which as we know weaker than legends

Edit: Nvm, they use both version it seems
 

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It's because Honkai Impact 3rd has so much shit from it in different media that it's even worse than Fate in that regard(Not helped that people tend to go full VSB when it comes to it on top of that and hyperinflate feats out the ass).
Sometimes I see some idiots go “tImeStoP nEgaTeS SpeEd aDVantAGe1!” and I’m like “ok dumbfuck, prove your waifu can get that off before she gets kicked in the cunt several trillion times a second”
 

OtherGalaxy

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did somebody say trillions of times a second
 
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