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Polar Bear

G.O.A.T
You are Catalina, the maddest woman in GTA. One benefit of being you is that you have people at your mercy. As such you are part of a vig duo. The other part of the vig duo during day will select a player to kill and I will PM you their target's name at the beginning of night for you to give a yes or no veto on whether they go ahead with the kill that night.

@Polar Bear do you have the same description?
I choose the kill during the day.

Tempest (the other vig duo) could green light it or cancel it, he had no effect on the choice
 

Magic

Resplendent
Moving the goalposts here, you're obviously motivated to read me scum nonetheless, but you were caught pants down having 0 clue essential information yesterday.

Just admit your suspicion is results based (bad) and move on.

No I don't see how that rings alarms, there's no relation between these things except that you're insisting. Bad faith.

Another slimy post. Never had anything to do with that shit and you made it about that shit as you can point to it to try to remove all credibility. It definitely wasn't essential information as it still stands not knowing she was an ic made no difference. She wasn't playing townie.

The relation is trying to remove strong town. It's insanity how you're trying to frame this. The previous execute was used on poyser in Xmas. Executes against strong players is optimal usage. You're acting obtuse by trying to be unaware.
 

Emil

Average Diabellstar Witch Enjoyer
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I choose the kill during the day.

Tempest (the other vig duo) could green light it or cancel it, he had no effect on the choice
similar to the assasin mechanic in jjk. but seems like only one assasin
 

Emil

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Can you tell me why you straight up are trying to deny what he blatantly did and would attest to doing? He was trying to see if the info was at all manipulated. Why would you say he wasn't doing that?
i thought he was implying u knew the cop was coming to u and played for it. or low chance even u and flower are a team and intentionally played for this. remember u were the reason why she claimed at the start

its obv a can of worm hence why he said gonna make him look even worst. and hes obv not married to it but ur play is, as kindly as possible, making him bypass the cop clear on u
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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Another slimy post. Never had anything to do with that shit and you made it about that shit as you can point to it to try to remove all credibility. It definitely wasn't essential information as it still stands not knowing she was an ic made no difference. She wasn't playing townie.

The relation is trying to remove strong town. It's insanity how you're trying to frame this. The previous execute was used on poyser in Xmas. Executes against strong players is optimal usage. You're acting obtuse by trying to be unaware.

Dumb dumb dumb

I didn't "make it" about anything. I was reconciling you as town, then you came and dropped really stupid posts about how my suspect list on the wagon should include Watson.

I know you don't change your read on me without good reason. So I'm stunned that you didn't read and 180'd. You keep brushing this off but Watson being IC is kinda hard to miss if you were actually paying even the least but of attention

Assuming I'd try to execute the player I'm tunneling is also dumb. WIFOM or not. I'd wanna run up multiple town wagons and have the exe go off then. You haven't even explained why it's necessary for me to use the resource.
 

Magic

Resplendent
i thought he was implying u knew the cop was coming to u and played for it. or low chance even u and flower are a team and intentionally played for this. remember u were the reason why she claimed at the start

its obv a can of worm hence why he said gonna make him look even worst. and hes obv not married to it but ur play is, as kindly as possible, making him bypass the cop clear on u

that is what he was implying and literally what i said he was going for. which, when you boil it down, is trying to remove a clear. he's pushing that agenda which is, quite literally by every defintion, trying to widen poe. it is a scummy act. why do you keep insisting scummy acts aren't scummy because the scummy things make the player look scummy?


to put this as kindly as possible mate, im not the one playing like ass. ultra isn't confirmed, or even close it, i alone was the one that put town in position to do anything last game whereas youd fit up in the prof department at the moment.

ultra has gone after a dead town and me, a confirmed town. youre acting like im going after someone that should be clear in all circumstances.
 

Magic

Resplendent
Dumb dumb dumb

I didn't "make it" about anything. I was reconciling you as town, then you came and dropped really stupid posts about how my suspect list on the wagon should include Watson.

I know you don't change your read on me without good reason. So I'm stunned that you didn't read and 180'd. You keep brushing this off but Watson being IC is kinda hard to miss if you were actually paying even the least but of attention

Assuming I'd try to execute the player I'm tunneling is also dumb. WIFOM or not. I'd wanna run up multiple town wagons and have the exe go off then. You haven't even explained why it's necessary for me to use the resource.
why was it necessary for you to fake info on me?

why do you continue to act like wifom should be a good quality of defense for you. removing strong players with an execute is how it's been used forever. saving it is not common. it's why people, like ekko, have said it shouldnt be available in day in the first place.
 

Emil

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that is what he was implying and literally what i said he was going for. which, when you boil it down, is trying to remove a clear. he's pushing that agenda which is, quite literally by every defintion, trying to widen poe. it is a scummy act. why do you keep insisting scummy acts aren't scummy because the scummy things make the player look scummy?


to put this as kindly as possible mate, im not the one playing like ass. ultra isn't confirmed, or even close it, i alone was the one that put town in position to do anything last game whereas youd fit up in the prof department at the moment.

ultra has gone after a dead town and me, a confirmed town. youre acting like im going after someone that should be clear in all circumstances.
but is he actually trying to remove a clear? would him saying he read u town serve him well to achieve that goal

ur tunneling giga hard. harder than even a potential sk overtly pushing ultra to stay alive longer
 

Magic

Resplendent
but is he actually trying to remove a clear? would him saying he read u town serve him well to achieve that goal

ur tunneling giga hard. harder than even a potential sk overtly pushing ultra to stay alive longer

yes, that is blatantly prodding at the idea of removing a clear. "hey guys what if x, hey guys im moving magic from town to null, hey guys what if he's the gf, hey guys what if the info was manipulated since flower hinted at". all of this is what he said. all of this is trying to work around a clear. all of this is trying to open up poe. i am not stating an opinion, this is a fact. if you want to try denying a fact once again im going to assume you either have TMI or you're scum with him since you seem incapable of looking at this with any objective lens.


there is nothing clearing ultra. once again stop trying to make my main scum read about tunneling a game after i 'tunneled' them correctly. it's pointless trying to discredit me and if we want to go down that route we might as well make it an ego battle because at this point youre leaving very little reason for me not to do so.
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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why was it necessary for you to fake info on me?

why do you continue to act like wifom should be a good quality of defense for you. removing strong players with an execute is how it's been used forever. saving it is not common. it's why people, like ekko, have said it shouldnt be available in day in the first place.

The problem is that you're not acknowledging me faking info on you is an exception to the rule and not the rule. Charitably you have recency bias, but if you think that gives you license to say I just make bad plays and rely on WIFOM all the time as scum that's dumb. If that were the case it wouldn't have worked at all last game.

There's also a difference between out of pocket plays and suboptimal. I reasonably figured I could get away with framing you long enough to do damage. If I'm angling for an execute however, I'd also like to do as much damage as possible. Which should mean if you're scum reading me you should think the other wagons were town.
 

Emil

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yes, that is blatantly prodding at the idea of removing a clear. "hey guys what if x, hey guys im moving magic from town to null, hey guys what if he's the gf, hey guys what if the info was manipulated since flower hinted at". all of this is what he said. all of this is trying to work around a clear. all of this is trying to open up poe. i am not stating an opinion, this is a fact. if you want to try denying a fact once again im going to assume you either have TMI or you're scum with him since you seem incapable of looking at this with any objective lens.


there is nothing clearing ultra. once again stop trying to make my main scum read about tunneling a game after i 'tunneled' them correctly. it's pointless trying to discredit me and if we want to go down that route we might as well make it an ego battle because at this point youre leaving very little reason for me not to do so.
well i agreed with u there, i am not here. one of us gonna have to concede to reading ultra correctly after the game!
 

Aurelian

Titan
Administrator
Decepticon
no i think im good, not gonna drip feed it to you lol

i also dont think ultra kills ratchet here, even if gad/rdk were his teammates and suspected by ratchet so ya

and another thing, ratchet's backup yeet target was aurelian. will take this as a slight point against aurelian even tho aurelian did nothing but vote ratchet in thread. in any case big day for him today and he's gotta start playing for real or be disposed off

@Aurelian
I would love to have killed Ratchet ngl
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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Basically Magic you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. It doesn't matter that the exe there frames me, you insist I'm down to frame myself. And you're insisting I played to the execute because ???. Won't even acknowledge the guy who I have pinned as probably doing what you're alleging I am.
 

Magic

Resplendent
The problem is that you're not acknowledging me faking info on you is an exception to the rule and not the rule. Charitably you have recency bias, but if you think that gives you license to say I just make bad plays and rely on WIFOM all the time as scum that's dumb. If that were the case it wouldn't have worked at all last game.

There's also a difference between out of pocket plays and suboptimal. I reasonably figured I could get away with framing you long enough to do damage. If I'm angling for an execute however, I'd also like to do as much damage as possible. Which should mean if you're scum reading me you should think the other wagons were town.
let me rephrase the same thing i said to ratchet last game.

are you currently getting away with it?

if so is it suboptimal?

the answers to the questions are yes and then no. therefore you cant claim it's suboptimal as if you are scum it's already established to be successful.

the problem is that last game showed plenty of players incapable of understanding, utilizing, or seeing through wifom. why wouldnt you make the play again after seeing how well it worked the first time?
 

Magic

Resplendent
Basically Magic you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. It doesn't matter that the exe there frames me, you insist I'm down to frame myself. And you're insisting I played to the execute because ???. Won't even acknowledge the guy who I have pinned as probably doing what you're alleging I am.
basically ultra i think gad is scum and since you avoided his wagon and got a strong town player executed and tried getting a wagon on me earlier it heavily implies youre doing what i suggested youre doing.

im having it a much harder time believing the afk guy who is always afk on weekends did anything youre alleging. his team might have done it for him but it clearly wasn't him coordinating anything.
 

Fujishiro

Lonely at the top
basically ultra i think gad is scum and since you avoided his wagon and got a strong town player executed and tried getting a wagon on me earlier it heavily implies youre doing what i suggested youre doing.

im having it a much harder time believing the afk guy who is always afk on weekends did anything youre alleging. his team might have done it for him but it clearly wasn't him coordinating anything.
Magic, brother. We get it, you suspect Ultra. Do you have any other suspect please?
 

Ultra

THE BEAR
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let me rephrase the same thing i said to ratchet last game.

are you currently getting away with it?

if so is it suboptimal?

the answers to the questions are yes and then no. therefore you cant claim it's suboptimal as if you are scum it's already established to be successful.

the problem is that last game showed plenty of players incapable of understanding, utilizing, or seeing through wifom. why wouldnt you make the play again after seeing how well it worked the first time?

You're basically admitting to putting me in a catch-22.

Honestly though he bigger issue isn't proposing I could do this so much as insisting on a conclusion when you clearly haven't been reading. You never answered what about my play suggests I was angling for an execution besides "I suspected you and CP". Not really compelling stuff.

I would probably prefer another wagon get executed (if Gad/RDK) are town so I could play captain hindsight like you
 
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