Who is the strongest character that Nerevarine (The Elder Scrolls) can beat in Toaru?

Astaro

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I think it's primarily due to him not understanding at all how The Elder Scrolls Multiverse works and again, not all series works the same way...
Then please, break your record a shitposting for once and explain it to me yourself

I didn’t make this thread and am simply engaging the OP who I assumed made this for there to be debate
 

Masterblack06

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Which is cool but still existence erasure
If you wanna simplify it yeah you can say that, just as long as you are aware that its of a higher level than normal existence erasure.


But yeah The Nerevarine was able to hold it back, Sure he lost but the fact he could even fight against something that not even the strongest beings in verse could deal with and someone thing Zero Sums existence just by existing and not existing at the same time, AND broke time across the entirety of TES, says something about how shenanigans he is.
 

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If you wanna simplify it yeah you can say that, just as long as you are aware that its of a higher level than normal existence erasure.


But yeah The Nerevarine was able to hold it back, Sure he lost but the fact he could even fight against something that not even the strongest beings in verse could deal with and someone thing Zero Sums existence just by existing and not existing at the same time, AND broke time across the entirety of TES, says something about how shenanigans he is.
Can you post the lore or video of Neravarine vs Numidium?
 

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Was the Nerevar piloting their own mecha or something in that fight? And said mecha powered by some Daedric Artifacts like the Star of Azura and at least one Elder Scroll?
 

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Was the Nerevar piloting their own mecha or something in that fight? And said mecha powered by some Daedric Artifacts like the Star of Azura and at least one Elder Scroll?
Its the thing fully built version of the thing you end up destroying in Morrowind when you fight Dagoth Ur. Its supposed to be a Second Numidium but its not nearly as powerful
 

Astaro

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It’s the thing fully built version of the thing you end up destroying in Morrowind when you fight Dagoth Ur. Its supposed to be a Second Numidium but its not nearly as powerful
Well that settles it, Nerevar didn’t fight it on their own power alone but within their mecha powered by Daedric Artifacts and Elder scrolls and still lost. Plus, you can even argue the mecha itself didn’t need to resist Numidium’s erasure with how things like some magic missiles among a barrage fired at the Numidian slipped through and did superficial damage

So they really shouldn’t be scaled to the Numidium based on what I’m seeing so far
 

Masterblack06

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Well that settles it, Nerevar didn’t fight it on their own power alone but within their mecha powered by Daedric Artifacts and Elder scrolls and still lost. Plus, you can even argue the mecha itself didn’t need to resist Numidium’s erasure with how things like some magic missiles among a barrage fired at the Numidian slipped through and did superficial damage

So they really shouldn’t be scaled to the Numidium based on what I’m seeing so far
Okay so you missed a lot

The Bombs being dropped on it? Them shits are made of pure Logic, hence they are called Logic Bombs
GC 1 and 5 take a more defensive pose by flying high above and pelting Walk Brass with logic bombs.

Some dudes tried to make The Numidium acknowledge its own existence to which it yells No and wipes them.


Fractal Missles made of math, some hit, some just get sent to a different time.
GC 8 unleashes an assault of fractal missiles, mathematical symbols trailing their path. Some missiles explode and knock plates loose from the armored brass shell; others pass harmlessly (to Numidium) into another time stream.

Also the only reasont he robot could survive Numidiums World Refusals was because niggas in the Clockwork City were blocking the No's from working up a certain point.

The plants and stuff attacking the Numidium? Thats the Hist, hence why the argonians are there. The Hist fights using 5th Dimensional Math. Those missles. Those are missles made of math. I dont know how you missed them describing the missles as "irrational numbers"
Akulavarine fires a salvo of irrational numbers at Numidium’s legs


Also I never said the Nerevarine won, only that he was able to fight with it. Even inside of the Mecha he still needed to be able to not get clapped by its mere presence attempting to wipe him from existence like what happened to the Tower that the Numidium bumped into after The Clockwork City couldn't block the world refusals anymore
 

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Also the Nerevarine is compared to a Weakened Viviec who is still bullshit ass powerful ad exists outside and beyond the concept of time, and Dagoth Ur,
 

Astaro

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Okay so you missed a lot

The Bombs being dropped on it? Them shits are made of pure Logic, hence they are called Logic Bombs
Tells me nothing and not what I’m referring to anyway
Some dudes tried to make The Numidium acknowledge its own existence to which it yells No and wipes them.


Fractal Missles made of math, some hit, some just get sent to a different time.
And some slipped through, meaning there’s gaps to what Numidium erases as well as range it it’s erasure. Kind of a big deal when you fighting it while protected inside a mecha the whole time.
Also the only reasont he robot could survive Numidiums World Refusals was because niggas in the Clockwork City were blocking the No's from working up a certain point.

The plants and stuff attacking the Numidium? Thats the Hist, hence why the argonians are there. The Hist fights using 5th Dimensional Math. Those missles. Those are missles made of math. I dont know how you missed them describing the missles as "irrational numbers"
Still proves what I said above.

Lowly Teleporters in Toaru alone can mess with the future and attack using 11th dimensional math.
Also I never said the Nerevarine won, only that he was able to fight with it. Even inside of the Mecha he still needed to be able to not get clapped by its mere presence attempting to wipe him from existence like what happened to the Tower that the Numidium bumped into after The Clockwork City couldn't block the world refusals anymore
Never stated in the entire passage that I read
 
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Astaro

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Also the Nerevarine is compared to a Weakened Viviec who is still bullshit ass powerful ad exists outside and beyond the concept of time, and Dagoth Ur,
Same with Magic Gods, who reside outside existence, time, and space

It may have been wrong to refer to that place as dark. In fact, the word “place” was not entirely accurate either. Non-existent things could not be explained. Nevertheless, a few voices lurked within where no one could interfere.

“We have no more attachment to Othinus herself, but this ending could hinder Kamijou Touma’s future. Then again, I doubt anyone but us could resolve this now that a magic god is involved. It would be a shame to have the direction thrown off so much for something so trivial.”

“High Priest, we’re thinking about influencing events by interfering with the existing world, aren’t we?”

“The concepts of distance and time don’t matter here, remember? And I can’t leave regardless. Even if I did, I’d just end up gathering unwanted attention on a global scale like Othinus. I was a hair’s breadth and an infinite distance away.”

“Does the same go for the others?”

“Old man, did you start forgetting things once you became a mummy? The zombie girl, the chimera, and everyone are here. It’s just in destiny’s hands whether we run across each other in this place where the tiniest gap extends to an infinite distance☆”

Aleister Crowley the Human.

This magician had silver hair that reached his ankles and wore a green hospital gown. That human looked both male and female, both childlike and aged, and both saintly and sinful. His expression as he answered could have been interpreted as any number of emotions.

“Letting Othinus run free would have been a problem, but I left that to the strength of the world. The world was temporarily led to destruction as a result, but I still had to prioritize this. It wasn’t easy converting coordinates filled with non-existent numbers into decimal.”
 

Astaro

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Keep in mind, I’m not disputing Numidium’s power other than arguing it’s power can be avoided and having a certain range to it at most.

What I’m disputing is scaling Nervarine to it based on his mecha powered by Daedric artifacts and Elder Scrolls doing the actual fighting.

It’s like me arguing Misaka can pull off the Liquid Proof Railgun all on her own rather than with the AAA and with Shokuhou
 

Masterblack06

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Tells me nothing and not what I’m referring to anyway
It tells you that they arent "some magic missles" they are literally logic given form
And some slipped through, meaning there’s gaps to what Numidium erases as well as range it it’s erasure. Kind of a big deal when you fighting it while protected inside a mecha the whole time.
Yeah the math bombs made by people who could already counter his World Refusals, of course some could slip through Astaro. The only reason they couldnt keep using them is because he countered their counters and then "No!" them

You really forgot that important part.
Still proves what I said above.
No it doesnt because you misunderstood why the stuff got through
Never stated in the entire passage that I read
Considering that his landing wiped a Tower from existence, you know, one of those things keeping the daedra from invading the world, its not hard to get that his existence can just vape things around him.

Same with Magic Gods, who reside outside existence, time, and space
Cool, the Magic Gods are equal to a weakened vivec. a vivec that believed the Nerevarine could kill him.

Keep in mind, I’m not disputing Numidium’s power other than arguing it’s power can be avoided and having a certain range to it at most.
Considering that the Numidiums power affected fucking everything across the entirety of the Elder Scrolls and just waking up broke Akatosh so hard that it caused a dragon break? That range is beyond most things. Also can it be avoided? Ask the Gods how that went, Hell in the same story you read you saw him counter their counter to his word refusals and delete them anyway.
What I’m disputing is scaling Nervarine to it based on his mecha powered by Daedric artifacts and Elder Scrolls doing the actual fighting.
My entire point was that what the Magic Gods are, aren't comparable to what the Nerevarine has faced and considering the OP has the Nerevarine at his most powerful. He's going to dunk their asses.
 

Astaro

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It tells you that they arent "some magic missles" they are literally logic given form
And? If your just going to try to impress me with unquantifiable jargon, it’s not working
Yeah the math bombs made by people who could already counter his World Refusals, of course some could slip through Astaro. The only reason they couldnt keep using them is because he countered their counters and then "No!" them
That’s actually the fractal missiles fired by some other party after those dudes were wiped out actually
No it doesnt because you misunderstood why the stuff got through
Please tell me.
Considering that his landing wiped a Tower from existence, you know, one of those things keeping the daedra from invading the world, its not hard to get that his existence can just vape things around him.
Great but again. I’m not arguing the power behind its erasure, just the range and how Neravarine never is shown getting hit by it
Cool, the Magic Gods are equal to a weakened vivec. a vivec that believed the Nerevarine could kill him.
I love how you get all hyped up with Neravarine stuff but as soon as I post the scans of it applying to the opposing side, you do a 180 and just pretend it wasn’t even an argument when you brought it up in the first place.
Considering that the Numidiums power affected fucking everything across the entirety of the Elder Scrolls and just waking up broke Akatosh so hard that it caused a dragon break? That range is beyond most things. Also can it be avoided? Ask the Gods how that went, Hell in the same story you read you saw him counter their counter to his word refusals and delete them anyway.
Literally read the entire fight. It didn’t even erase the entire imperial city. It was fucking up time across the Multiverse sure but not in any way that it destroyed everything instantly:
My entire point was that what the Magic Gods are, aren't comparable to what the Nerevarine has faced and considering the OP has the Nerevarine at his most powerful. He's going to dunk their asses.
Inside his mecha powered by several Daedra Artifacts and elder scrolls while still losing anyway, not on his own

He doesn’t scale to the Numidium’s power in any reasonable way. Move on.
 
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