Last one for a few days as I will again be taking a break due to my computer going into the shop:
She casually does keep up with if not outpace Stark, the one and only attack he manages to blitz her with is lightning strike.
Atleast he's not dumb enough to pretend Stark's strike is literally as fast as a Lightning bolt... I don't see how anything I have seen in Frieren or from Linie can somehow outpace Shirou...
This was after she swung at Stark and he tanked her hit then counter struck her before she could pull back and intercept.
And Shirou has legit taken worse hits than anything Linie has done... are we legit pretending that Stark is far more dense than Shirou? The guy that should have been reduced to gore after getting hit by Merodach in the Fate Route?
Here,
Gilgamesh attacks with Merodach/Gram's version of the attack Caliburn used to kill Herakles, Shirou's Caliburn goes to clash with it, Caliburn breaks on impact.
Here,
Shirou's body was split from left shoulder to waist by Merodach/Gram's version of Caliburn's attack.
Here, Shirou's body was reinforced by UBW swords stitching it together enough that
he was praised by Gilgamesh for his durability (as he was able to keep his body from being blown apart by Merodach/Gram's version of Caliburn's attack like Gilgamesh was expecting to happen).
Or the fact that Medusa's kick in that same Route would have instantly killed him without his body's reinforcement?
Here, the Tiger Dojo confirms Shirou would normally die from Medusa's kick without his body reinforcing itself with swords.
And Shinji's Medusa may be the weakest Servant but she is still vastly superhuman regardless and is honestly more impressive than anyone in Frieren... it's funny these are NEVER brought up and it's just acting as if Shirou and Rin are weaker than baseline humans whenever it becomes convenient.
I want you to look very carefully at the sequence here. At 10 seconds in she hits him and her hit doesn't cut through him as she expected, at 14 seconds in she pulls out but can't intercept in time.
1. I wonder why that's the case? It's not like Stark was in position to slash her regardless of what she was doing right? Which is why he tanked the hit?
2.
I have seen shit from this fight... and genuinely nothing is all that impressive that Shirou nor Rin hasn't dealt with in the Fate Route alone. It's the same shit with a different coat of paint of SB hyperwanking the shit out of a franchise that is honestly not that impressive in what they are CHOOSING to put up.
Stark had to capitalize on this very specific opening to win.
...Then why are you making it seem impressive when it's literally tanking an attack and exchanging the blow right after? It's literally not as impressive as you are pushing it, to be honest.
If lightning strike alone was enough to easily win, he wouldnt have been getting rag dolled for most of the fight and nearly killed.
Again she's faster than him which that part is true... you also miss that Stark did that because he knew she wasn't as strong as him... and if we are trying to pretend Linie would be able to defeat Heracles or a Servant, I got a bridge to sell you.
We know Stark can spam lightning strike if he wants to as well, so he probably wasn't confident it could connect with her up to that point.
Again, are we pretending Stark's Lightning Strike is as fast as Lightning? Because that's a HELL of a stretch if we are going with that.
Hell, I'm legit watching this entire fight and:
Where the hell are we getting that this makes Linie superior to Shirou in speed? How does this make Stark superior to Shirou in speed? That allows them to go beyond Mach in the way they are pushing it? I'm not even trying to be like them or anything, this is a HORRIBLE example and using the Manga is worse:
This can ultimately mean anything because Flash Steps are fucking useless because we don't have a full passage of time of how fast the character is moving and it's worthless if the characters CAN STILL REACT FINE TO THE PERSON DOING SO!
It just amounts to "The character is fast" which is why Bleach gets mocked by most people because Bleach literally has no feats of speed whatsoever until late in the series.
By comparison:
Here, Herakles begins to swing his Axe-Sword at Shirou, the sword is swung with the intention to really kill Shirou this time.
Here, Herakles attack in transit, Shirou uses a partially formed Projection of Caliburn, Shirou proves able to block Herakles strikes.
Here, Shirou senses and dodges Cu Chulainn's assassination attempt.
Here, Shirou barely defends against Cu Chulainn's second strike with his poster sword.
Here, Shirou blocks the next strike through instinct.
Here, Cu's next strike is also blocked, but it bends the reinforced poster.
Here, Shirou barely manages to budge Cu's lance with a sword strike of his own. Shirou realizes how much Cu's been playing with him so far.
Here, Shirou escapes through the window, Cu pursues, Shirou instinctively deflects Cu's next strike.
Even a simple heated(but not full power) exchange between Cu and EMIYA had hundreds of blows in less than a second, something Shirou would obviously have to contend with by fighting any Servant, let alone defending against them. Lugner and Rin is even dumber but at this point, I'm just tired and Rin tends to be downplayed immensely in SB because "she does no huge explosions and if Medea's "Weak attacks" can stop her jewels, then so could everyone else because terrible ass reasons."